Also... I get you prefer to be pessimistic. But Stone’s comment was good news. It proves that they are open to touring and haven’t preemptively dismissed it as many around here have suggested.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh
I read Stone's comment to mean that the first order of business will be playing the shows they have postponed. They will live up to their contractual obligations and probably are very excited to play the Gigaton songs live. Whenever that may happen. Mentioning "fall or early winter" also suggests that he is uncertain about the fall. I am cautiously optimistic about it happening but there are so many things that can happen between then and now.
Of course, Stone’s exact quote about touring in the fall begins and ends with him saying that is what he hopes will happen, not that it is something that he currently knows will happen.
Stone: “my hope is that we'll start playing some shows in the fall or early winter. I don't know what they're gonna be or when they're gonna be, but that's my hope.”
I get your point but you could apply that to every single future event. We all hope to be here tomorrow but no one actually knows if it will happen. At the very least, it indicates that the band has not dismissed out of hand playing in the fall. Which is good news.
No, it doesn’t apply to every future event under normal circumstances. That’s ridiculous. He said it specifically because we’re in a pandemic. If Pearl Jam has scheduled tour dates and a band member is talking about those upcoming dates they don’t say “gee, I hope we can play them.” They say “we’re playing dates in the fall.”
I’m also very hopeful they can play in the fall but words have meaning and what Stone said is clear.
It actually does apply to every future event. You just don’t normally see it that way. The pandemic has made us view the future more cautiously and with an appreciation for how little control we have over future events. But in reality it’s always been like that.
This reminds me of something I read several years ago, though the specific quote escapes me. In a book titled “Quitting the Nairobi Trio,” the author says that the act of WAITING is OPTIMISTIC, because it requires the believe that the thing you’re waiting for WILL HAPPEN.
And here we are. Waiting. Because we BELIEVE things will change for the better.
Of course, Stone’s exact quote about touring in the fall begins and ends with him saying that is what he hopes will happen, not that it is something that he currently knows will happen.
Stone: “my hope is that we'll start playing some shows in the fall or early winter. I don't know what they're gonna be or when they're gonna be, but that's my hope.”
Its the first piece of news about a possiible show this year. Maybe it's SHN or Ohana, maybe not, all depending on the states. At least there is a ray of hope! Thanks for being positive.
Also... I get you prefer to be pessimistic. But Stone’s comment was good news. It proves that they are open to touring and haven’t preemptively dismissed it as many around here have suggested.
In no way am I pessimistic. I can’t wait for the shows and am optimistic we are coming out of this. Starting this weekend, I will be resuming attending many great events. Hell, I flew to the World Series during a pandemic.
But I am a realist and again, words have meaning. Of course, they are open to touring. They are chomping at the bit to return to touring, as is every person in the entertainment industry who has been sidelined during the last 14 months. I can tell you from experience that people having been “hoping’ to resume many times now throughout these times. Up til now, those have all come and gone. And that informs his comments as to why he’s hopeful for the fall. Obviously we are getting closer to resuming(hopefully) but as we saw with BST, people here can twist anything into “clues” that the event was happening. Well, BST didn’t happen and we will see about Ohana and SHN in the days ahead. Hopefully the outcome will be different.
Damn!!!!! You beat me to it..........also “ that’s what she said”
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2 2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2 2026.....?????????????????????????????????????????
Rage Against the Machine just announced they are moving their tour to 2022. It's 2020 all over again.
They are so pessimistic!
I see no humour in any of this. I have Europe tickets for Pearl Jam and they now line up with my RATM tickets. Shit!
I look forward to buying your ratm tickets.
You doing MSG? That lines up for me now. Two trips to NY in one year after never being there is going to be fun!
I didn t buy any ratm tickets. :(
I'm sure they will be available. They were in good supply before they pushed to 2021. I was pissed because I bought when they only had two shows and my seats were not great. Ended up refunding with a bunch of shows....only thing we kepts were two pairs of MSG Pearl Jam.
Best line ever in the pandemic, and I wish I could remember who said it first, credit to them whoever they are, that photo is from the day his opening pitch redefined flattening the curve.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
This is a step in the right direction, but there’s a giant leap between the distanced type of event outlined in the article and the bash on the beach that SHN would be. Continuing to hope for the best and expect the worst...
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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Mentioning "fall or early winter" also suggests that he is uncertain about the fall. I am cautiously optimistic about it happening but there are so many things that can happen between then and now.
And here we are. Waiting. Because we BELIEVE things will change for the better.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
2026.....?????????????????????????????????????????
Also 5 nights at MSG
They are so pessimistic!
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Philly 2-4 '09
Newark '10
MSG 1+2 '10
E.V. Beacon 1+2 '11
Made in America Festival '12
Worcester 1+2 '13
Brooklyn 1+2 '13
Global Citizens Festival '15
MSG 1+2 '16
Fenway Park 1+2 '16
Ohana '17
Home Shows 1+2 '18
Ohana '18
Ohana '19
Sea Hear Now '21
Ohana '21
LA 1+2 '22
Austin 1+2 '23
Ohana '23
Vegas 1+2 '24
LA 1+2 '24
MSG 1+2 '24
Ohana '24
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
NJ continuing to move in the right direction:
To get vaccinated for awhile, why did you wait so long Mr. Retired?
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023