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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,073
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    It’s better to just attack people’s opinions when they are critical of joe, because this election is a referendum on trump and Biden has the victory in hand.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    As a reasonable adult I am not worried about it.  Even in a medically induced coma he would be a better president.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Biden
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    I'm sitting this one out
    static111 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    It’s better to just attack people’s opinions when they are critical of joe, because this election is a referendum on trump and Biden has the victory in hand.
    It's absurdly hilarious to watch. Declaring that you're voting for Biden isn't enough. If you express even the slightest reservation, you still get attacked.
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,119
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    You mean like his policy platform? Care to opine? Like an adult?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    static111 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    It’s better to just attack people’s opinions when they are critical of joe, because this election is a referendum on trump and Biden has the victory in hand.
    I feel like you're just inventing this straw man.  Who is saying the bold?  
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    static111 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    It’s better to just attack people’s opinions when they are critical of joe, because this election is a referendum on trump and Biden has the victory in hand.
    It's absurdly hilarious to watch. Declaring that you're voting for Biden isn't enough. If you express even the slightest reservation, you still get attacked.
    Attacked?  Countering your argument is commensurate with being attacked?  I think you misunderstand, or just willfully ignore the points that people are making.  The criticisms of Joe are small and petty and many of us here don't have interest in seeing them breathe.  If you want to post your 'slightest reservation' (which is kind of funny since you said you're not voting for Biden, yet speaking for those that are), don't expect many of us not to counter those with our arguments.  Your sensibilities aren't really a concern when the commander in chief is tweeting conspiracy theories and threatening to shut down or regulate the speech of private companies.  
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    static111 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    It’s better to just attack people’s opinions when they are critical of joe, because this election is a referendum on trump and Biden has the victory in hand.
    It's absurdly hilarious to watch. Declaring that you're voting for Biden isn't enough. If you express even the slightest reservation, you still get attacked.
    Attacked?  Countering your argument is commensurate with being attacked?  I think you misunderstand, or just willfully ignore the points that people are making.  The criticisms of Joe are small and petty and many of us here don't have interest in seeing them breathe.  If you want to post your 'slightest reservation' (which is kind of funny since you said you're not voting for Biden, yet speaking for those that are), don't expect many of us not to counter those with our arguments.  Your sensibilities aren't really a concern when the commander in chief is tweeting conspiracy theories and threatening to shut down or regulate the speech of private companies.  
    Threatening to shut down or regulate the speech of private companies is a concern, eh? It's something that Trump and Biden are both interested in.


  • Halifax2TheMax
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    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    static111 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    It’s better to just attack people’s opinions when they are critical of joe, because this election is a referendum on trump and Biden has the victory in hand.
    It's absurdly hilarious to watch. Declaring that you're voting for Biden isn't enough. If you express even the slightest reservation, you still get attacked.
    Attacked?  Countering your argument is commensurate with being attacked?  I think you misunderstand, or just willfully ignore the points that people are making.  The criticisms of Joe are small and petty and many of us here don't have interest in seeing them breathe.  If you want to post your 'slightest reservation' (which is kind of funny since you said you're not voting for Biden, yet speaking for those that are), don't expect many of us not to counter those with our arguments.  Your sensibilities aren't really a concern when the commander in chief is tweeting conspiracy theories and threatening to shut down or regulate the speech of private companies.  
    The only thing I read from the Sleepy Woke Joe naysayers are is that “he’s creepy,” “his mental acuity is in decline,” and “if you vote for him and disagree, you’re attacked.” All without any evidence despite 30 years of YouTube videos (Yea, I’ve seen the “creepy” behavior) or discussion of his policies. The interviews I’ve seen of Sleepy Woke Joe, he comes across as intelligent, well spoken in his way, informed, knowledgeable and expressing empathy for those less fortunate. But you know, he’s not as sharp as he was when he was 30. The guy knows how the levers of power work without running roughshod over the constitution.
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    I'm sitting this one out
    Also, "I'm not attacking anyone, I'm just explaining that their concerns are petty and need to be smothered out" is


  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    Biden
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    i am not so worried about biden or how he will preside. i am excited about the people he may end up surrounding himself with. if he wins and is unable to complete his term, i have full confidence that he will not surround himself with grifters and enemies of the state like trump has done.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    edited May 2020
    Biden
    Admittedly, sometimes the threads move too fast for me and I end up skimming or even skipping. But I haven't really noticed any "attacks."
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    I'm sitting this one out
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    static111 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    It’s better to just attack people’s opinions when they are critical of joe, because this election is a referendum on trump and Biden has the victory in hand.
    It's absurdly hilarious to watch. Declaring that you're voting for Biden isn't enough. If you express even the slightest reservation, you still get attacked.
    Attacked?  Countering your argument is commensurate with being attacked?  I think you misunderstand, or just willfully ignore the points that people are making.  The criticisms of Joe are small and petty and many of us here don't have interest in seeing them breathe.  If you want to post your 'slightest reservation' (which is kind of funny since you said you're not voting for Biden, yet speaking for those that are), don't expect many of us not to counter those with our arguments.  Your sensibilities aren't really a concern when the commander in chief is tweeting conspiracy theories and threatening to shut down or regulate the speech of private companies.  
    The only thing I read from the Sleepy Woke Joe naysayers are is that “he’s creepy,” “his mental acuity is in decline,” and “if you vote for him and disagree, you’re attacked.” All without any evidence despite 30 years of YouTube videos (Yea, I’ve seen the “creepy” behavior) or discussion of his policies. The interviews I’ve seen of Sleepy Woke Joe, he comes across as intelligent, well spoken in his way, informed, knowledgeable and expressing empathy for those less fortunate. But you know, he’s not as sharp as he was when he was 30. The guy knows how the levers of power work without running roughshod over the constitution.
    No evidence of creepiness you say?

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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    Biden
    plus we need to eliminate republican control of the senate. even though we know that a gop minority will lead to filibuster on every single piece of legislation. we need to trounce them so badly in the senate that we get about 63 seats. impossible i know, but it is what we need to happen to right this path we are on.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Biden
    Some (not all) defenses of Biden are poorly made, and some (not all) criticisms of Biden are made in bad faith. The tone could sometimes be better all around. 

    Thoughts and prayers to the attacked. 
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 12,908
    Biden
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    i am not so worried about biden or how he will preside. i am excited about the people he may end up surrounding himself with. if he wins and is unable to complete his term, i have full confidence that he will not surround himself with grifters and enemies of the state like trump has done.
    agree with this regarding a Biden administration. My concern is that is condition will cause people not to vote for him and turnout is the path to victory.  If people are concerned enough not to vote for a guy possibly showing onset of dementia we could be headed to a 2nd Trump term. that scares the heck out of me.  with full disclosure I thought it was a bad idea a year ago for the Dems to lean towards the older candidates.  
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,598
    Biden
    Biden > Trump

    All day, every single day. 
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,177
    edited May 2020
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    static111 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    It’s better to just attack people’s opinions when they are critical of joe, because this election is a referendum on trump and Biden has the victory in hand.
    It's absurdly hilarious to watch. Declaring that you're voting for Biden isn't enough. If you express even the slightest reservation, you still get attacked.
    Attacked?  Countering your argument is commensurate with being attacked?  I think you misunderstand, or just willfully ignore the points that people are making.  The criticisms of Joe are small and petty and many of us here don't have interest in seeing them breathe.  If you want to post your 'slightest reservation' (which is kind of funny since you said you're not voting for Biden, yet speaking for those that are), don't expect many of us not to counter those with our arguments.  Your sensibilities aren't really a concern when the commander in chief is tweeting conspiracy theories and threatening to shut down or regulate the speech of private companies.  
    The only thing I read from the Sleepy Woke Joe naysayers are is that “he’s creepy,” “his mental acuity is in decline,” and “if you vote for him and disagree, you’re attacked.” All without any evidence despite 30 years of YouTube videos (Yea, I’ve seen the “creepy” behavior) or discussion of his policies. The interviews I’ve seen of Sleepy Woke Joe, he comes across as intelligent, well spoken in his way, informed, knowledgeable and expressing empathy for those less fortunate. But you know, he’s not as sharp as he was when he was 30. The guy knows how the levers of power work without running roughshod over the constitution.
    No evidence of creepiness you say?

    http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yfmksi/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-audacity-of-grope
    {typed in a non-threatening manner} he said he saw the creepy behaviour
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,050
    Biden
    pjhawks said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    i am not so worried about biden or how he will preside. i am excited about the people he may end up surrounding himself with. if he wins and is unable to complete his term, i have full confidence that he will not surround himself with grifters and enemies of the state like trump has done.
    agree with this regarding a Biden administration. My concern is that is condition will cause people not to vote for him and turnout is the path to victory.  If people are concerned enough not to vote for a guy possibly showing onset of dementia we could be headed to a 2nd Trump term. that scares the heck out of me.  with full disclosure I thought it was a bad idea a year ago for the Dems to lean towards the older candidates.  
    what do you want to do? biden won the plurality of votes. the young guns were rejected by many dem voters.

    the choice is easy. vote for a known piece of shit and incapable leader like trump, or a lifelong public servant who may be declining but will listen to his advisors. it is that clear cut.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,525
    I'm sitting this one out
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjl44 said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    static111 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjhawks said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    pjhawks said:
    Biden’s age and condition has me worried. I mean he looks out of it. just a bad idea to have such an old man at the top of the ticket.  I mean you know only the possible future of the country and the world is at stake with this election so it’s not like it’s important or anything.  Heck if he makes it to November and wins there is just very little chance he will be cognizant for four years either.  I can’t believe the dems might blow another election
    He's fine...tRump looks horrible.  He's loud so he comes across as more "fit" but he's a walking heart attack.
    don't get me wrong I'm voting for Biden or anyone who is on that line, but i don't think if you look at it honestly that Biden looks good.  It's pretty clear he is losing his faculties.
    People carry on like there isn't 30+ years of video clips where you can notice a difference. It's emperor's-new-clothes level shit. It makes sense to me that people would vote for him regardless, but let's talk about this stuff like reasonable adults.
    It’s better to just attack people’s opinions when they are critical of joe, because this election is a referendum on trump and Biden has the victory in hand.
    It's absurdly hilarious to watch. Declaring that you're voting for Biden isn't enough. If you express even the slightest reservation, you still get attacked.
    Attacked?  Countering your argument is commensurate with being attacked?  I think you misunderstand, or just willfully ignore the points that people are making.  The criticisms of Joe are small and petty and many of us here don't have interest in seeing them breathe.  If you want to post your 'slightest reservation' (which is kind of funny since you said you're not voting for Biden, yet speaking for those that are), don't expect many of us not to counter those with our arguments.  Your sensibilities aren't really a concern when the commander in chief is tweeting conspiracy theories and threatening to shut down or regulate the speech of private companies.  
    The only thing I read from the Sleepy Woke Joe naysayers are is that “he’s creepy,” “his mental acuity is in decline,” and “if you vote for him and disagree, you’re attacked.” All without any evidence despite 30 years of YouTube videos (Yea, I’ve seen the “creepy” behavior) or discussion of his policies. The interviews I’ve seen of Sleepy Woke Joe, he comes across as intelligent, well spoken in his way, informed, knowledgeable and expressing empathy for those less fortunate. But you know, he’s not as sharp as he was when he was 30. The guy knows how the levers of power work without running roughshod over the constitution.
    No evidence of creepiness you say?

    http://www.cc.com/video-clips/yfmksi/the-daily-show-with-jon-stewart-the-audacity-of-grope
    he said he saw the creepy behaviour
    He put the creepy in scare quotes

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