Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

pjl44

I'm sitting this one out

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

Do you watch Justified?

i don't run into assholes all day. most people i know are good, decent people. i am only talking about one type with one specific trait. and i specifically said trump supporters i know. i don't know many. but all of them share many of the same traits i find despicable in a human. 

If you're the type to post "I'm done with America. Fuck America." what sort of political discussions do you expect to be having?

pjl44

I'm sitting this one out

OnWis97 said:

Did somebody say "fuckery?"

https://www.rawstory.com/2020/11/usps-failed-to-deliver-27-percent-of-mail-in-ballots-in-south-florida-report/

Go back and look at the Vice link SC posted

OnWis97

Biden

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

Do you watch Justified?

i don't run into assholes all day. most people i know are good, decent people. i am only talking about one type with one specific trait. and i specifically said trump supporters i know. i don't know many. but all of them share many of the same traits i find despicable in a human. 

If you're the type to post "I'm done with America. Fuck America." what sort of political discussions do you expect to be having?

As an American, that doesn't bother me. I know it's not an indictment on me specifically but about a culture that is rooted pretty deeply and is about the masses more than individuals.  I personally don't have the luxury to say that, since I am here. But we must look like a freaking circus from the outside.

Ledbetterman10

Biden

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

I've seen some of that, but I've seen way more of that from the anti-Trump crowd; that if you voted for Trump, you're morally bankrupt, an asshole, a racist, an idiot, etc. That's not to say I haven't seen pushback from Trump-lovers, like "How can you vote for Biden?" But not being called names for it like I've seen from the Trump-haters. 

But Biden isn't a big asshole that is impossible to vote for if you are decent human being, and care about others and the planet. 

So I don't see what is odd about it.

Whatever. It's not worth rehashing the "people who vote for Trump and what that says about them" stuff.

static111

Biden

mrussel1 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

Do you watch Justified?

Excellent show and best role for Olyphant ever.

Really? I need to watch that.  Loved Deadwood.  What service/station is it on?

Easily one of the best shows of all time. His nemesis Boyd Crowder is one of the best tv villains of all time.  

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

Do you watch Justified?

i don't run into assholes all day. most people i know are good, decent people. i am only talking about one type with one specific trait. and i specifically said trump supporters i know. i don't know many. but all of them share many of the same traits i find despicable in a human. 

If you're the type to post "I'm done with America. Fuck America." what sort of political discussions do you expect to be having?

it was posted in frustration about what i thought was going to happen and what didn't happen. i considered deleting/editing it, but left it up so i could own it. and i do. 

i'm sure you know i'm usually very reasonable. but last night a pipe burst. 

Gern Blansten

Biden

https://twitter.com/paulkrugman/status/1324025181531197449

bootlegger10

Biden

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.

Why are you more worried about "doubts" amongs idiots, than about if every citizens vote gets counted in an election?

I never said anything about people not being able to vote.  There is PLENTY of time to vote well in advance.  I say cutoff the mail in votes 8 days or so in advance to allow time to arrive so we don't have a million votes counted on Wed/Thurs but perhaps only 30,000 vote left to count afterwards.  I had 30 days to vote in person.  It doesn't take much time to mail in or drive by and drop off a ballot.  

pjl44

I'm sitting this one out

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

I've seen some of that, but I've seen way more of that from the anti-Trump crowd; that if you voted for Trump, you're morally bankrupt, an asshole, a racist, an idiot, etc. That's not to say I haven't seen pushback from Trump-lovers, like "How can you vote for Biden?" But not being called names for it like I've seen from the Trump-haters. 

But Biden isn't a big asshole that is impossible to vote for if you are decent human being, and care about others and the planet. 

So I don't see what is odd about it.

Whatever. It's not worth rehashing the "people who vote for Trump and what that says about them" stuff.

For some people, all they know is lashing out and then wondering aloud why they encounter so many assholes

Gern Blansten

Biden

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

I've seen some of that, but I've seen way more of that from the anti-Trump crowd; that if you voted for Trump, you're morally bankrupt, an asshole, a racist, an idiot, etc. That's not to say I haven't seen pushback from Trump-lovers, like "How can you vote for Biden?" But not being called names for it like I've seen from the Trump-haters. 

But Biden isn't a big asshole that is impossible to vote for if you are decent human being, and care about others and the planet. 

So I don't see what is odd about it.

Whatever. It's not worth rehashing the "people who vote for Trump and what that says about them" stuff.

But he's senile...and he sniffs kids hair...and his son had a laptop with emails.

They will believe anything

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

OnWis97 said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

Do you watch Justified?

i don't run into assholes all day. most people i know are good, decent people. i am only talking about one type with one specific trait. and i specifically said trump supporters i know. i don't know many. but all of them share many of the same traits i find despicable in a human. 

If you're the type to post "I'm done with America. Fuck America." what sort of political discussions do you expect to be having?

As an American, that doesn't bother me. I know it's not an indictment on me specifically but about a culture that is rooted pretty deeply and is about the masses more than individuals.  I personally don't have the luxury to say that, since I am here. But we must look like a freaking circus from the outside.

you (the country) does look like a circus. if the US wasn't so influential on the world stage, we'd be laughing and pointing instead of being so upset. if you were ireland, for example, literally none of us would give a shit. 

kind of like how americans look at canada, actually. LOL. 

mrussel1

Biden

static111 said:

mrussel1 said:

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

Do you watch Justified?

Excellent show and best role for Olyphant ever.

Really? I need to watch that.  Loved Deadwood.  What service/station is it on?

Easily one of the best shows of all time. His nemesis Boyd Crowder is one of the best tv villains of all time.  

Teh wife and I are finishing up Succession now (also hilariously dark), so we'll need something new.  Thanks for the tip. 

pjl44

I'm sitting this one out

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

Do you watch Justified?

i don't run into assholes all day. most people i know are good, decent people. i am only talking about one type with one specific trait. and i specifically said trump supporters i know. i don't know many. but all of them share many of the same traits i find despicable in a human. 

If you're the type to post "I'm done with America. Fuck America." what sort of political discussions do you expect to be having?

it was posted in frustration about what i thought was going to happen and what didn't happen. i considered deleting/editing it, but left it up so i could own it. and i do. 

i'm sure you know i'm usually very reasonable. but last night a pipe burst. 

Yeah, that's true. You usually are. Try not to let this stuff get to you especially when the indications are (at least currently) that Trump is going to lose.

brianlux

Biden

If I had neighbors that had a big house full of people and half of them hated anybody that didn't look like them, and half of them displayed a distinct lack of good judgement and civility, and half of them loved it that the head of their household was a belligerent, rude, misogynistic lying narcissist, I would stay as far away from that household as possible.  And I would feel the same way about America if I were from another country.  This one is toxic, sick, and falling apart at the seems.  

cblock4life

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

Do you watch Justified?

i don't run into assholes all day. most people i know are good, decent people. i am only talking about one type with one specific trait. and i specifically said trump supporters i know. i don't know many. but all of them share many of the same traits i find despicable in a human. 

If you're the type to post "I'm done with America. Fuck America." what sort of political discussions do you expect to be having?

He just said he gave people the benefit of the doubt for four years and his done with it. I tried to give the ass himself the benefit of the doubt and had he handled the pandemic correctly I MAY have been able to vote for him. Everyone someone has an opinion trump supporters all say the same thing. It’s like a play book you e all been sent so how do you expect us to have a civilized conversation with you when he’s tried for 4 years. It’s almost over....finals days of people’s opinions (hopefully with no violence) so just let people air their final grievances and stop still trying to win trump votes. 

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

pjl44 said:

cblock4life said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

honestly. regardless of who wins. i'm done with america. fuck america. i can't believe so many people still support this piece of shit after the last four years. it's unimaginable to most people that don't live in your country. see you in 4 years. at best. 

I feel exactly like this but unfortunately I live here. Even if it ends up Biden the amount of votes for trump still makes me sick. And you care, you actually care and understand more than most. Almost 50% of us are fucking assholes so you’re justified and permitted your feelings and frustration. If more Americans were like you these conversations wouldn’t even be happening. 

Calling everyone who doesn't vote with you a fucking asshole is about as Trumpy as it gets

i haven't met one trump voter, in person or online, that doesn't fit that description. 

i was hesitant about generalizing after he beat hillary. even often scolded people here when they did so. figured people were just tossing their vote in the wishing well. but after this 4 years? sorry, they no longer get the benefit of the doubt. 

Do you watch Justified?

i don't run into assholes all day. most people i know are good, decent people. i am only talking about one type with one specific trait. and i specifically said trump supporters i know. i don't know many. but all of them share many of the same traits i find despicable in a human. 

If you're the type to post "I'm done with America. Fuck America." what sort of political discussions do you expect to be having?

it was posted in frustration about what i thought was going to happen and what didn't happen. i considered deleting/editing it, but left it up so i could own it. and i do. 

i'm sure you know i'm usually very reasonable. but last night a pipe burst. 

Yeah, that's true. You usually are. Try not to let this stuff get to you especially when the indications are (at least currently) that Trump is going to lose.

i know he's probably going to lose. but for me that wasn't enough. I was really hoping that the US had finally come to its senses. it looks like it got worse. not that i want the country run by 100% democrats. just reasonable republicans is all i ask for. but reasonable republicans in office seem like the minority now. 

and there may have been some crown royal involved when i posted that. 

static111

Biden

bootlegger10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

bootlegger10 said:

Not a fan of votes being counted into Wednesday and Thursday.  You want to mail it in then mail it ten days in advance.  Or drop it off.  This just creates doubt amongst some of the electorate when you have swings after Election Day.

Why are you more worried about "doubts" amongs idiots, than about if every citizens vote gets counted in an election?

I never said anything about people not being able to vote.  There is PLENTY of time to vote well in advance.  I say cutoff the mail in votes 8 days or so in advance to allow time to arrive so we don't have a million votes counted on Wed/Thurs but perhaps only 30,000 vote left to count afterwards.  I had 30 days to vote in person.  It doesn't take much time to mail in or drive by and drop off a ballot.  

The votes that are being counted have been sitting there for weeks for the most part. Republican legislatures would not allow a rules change to let the votes be counted as they come in. What you propose would take for republicans to work together and change counting rules so we could get accurate tallys more quickly.  They won’t do this because it sets them up for what we have today, crying fraud when votes are being counted.

Spiritual_Chaos

I'm sitting this one out

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1324026497536004098?s=20

Gern Blansten

Biden

brianlux said:

If I had neighbors that had a big house full of people and half of them hated anybody that didn't look like them, and half of them displayed a distinct lack of good judgement and civility, and half of them loved it that the head of their household was a belligerent, rude, misogynistic lying narcissist, I would stay as far away from that household as possible.  And I would feel the same way about America if I were from another country.  This one is toxic, sick, and falling apart at the seems.  

yep....I told my wife that I have no interest in socializing with tRumpsters.  They are too stupid to waste any of my time on.

mcgruff10

Biden

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/mattmfm/status/1324026497536004098?s=20

I am impressed with your twitter skills.