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    VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,967
    Biden
    You can tell someone is really passionate by their use of capitalization, too. 
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,319
    Biden
    I mean, you'd have to believe Trump won in order to rally your party behind him again after losing so badly last time. It'd be like if Dems let Hillary take another shot at it.

    What happens if Biden dies before the election? Does that put Kamala at the top of the ticket?

    I've really come to dread presidential election years. They bring out the worst in this country and really show you how shitty people can be. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,945
    Biden
    Anyone ever seen that movie This is the Army?  Seems relevant. 
    No, but Idiocracy keeps coming to mind. 
    Every single time one of them posts here. 

    They really have nothing of value to say here and yet we (including me) keep responding to them.    As for me, I'll try to ignore them or, at best, just say "zzzzzzzzzzzz".  I need the extra sleep these days anyway.  :lol:
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,319
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,945
    Biden
    tbergs said:

    These people (well, all but one maybe) are freaking unbelievable.  That they would actually vote for Trump even though they know he is an existential threat to democracy...  this is insanity.  We live in a nation populated by millions and millions of people who are out of their minds.  As a nation, we've really reached our nadir. 
    You said it, T, pathetic.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,806
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you'd have to believe Trump won in order to rally your party behind him again after losing so badly last time. It'd be like if Dems let Hillary take another shot at it.

    What happens if Biden dies before the election? Does that put Kamala at the top of the ticket?

    I've really come to dread presidential election years. They bring out the worst in this country and really show you how shitty people can be. 
    No it wouldn't.  There would have to be some sort of delegate convention to nominate a new candidate. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,092
    Biden
    https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/06/politics/trump-campaign-promises/index.html

    this stuff is fucking hilarious. this loser can't even erect a wall that stays standing up, he wants to build 10 new cities. hahaha. what a fucking moron. 

    maybe he'll mandate every child wear golden shoes to school?
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,092
    Biden
    trying to see a silver lining to a second trump term. the amount of laughter I got out of his first one was legendary. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,466
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    At least these folks can express themselves with words instead of a meme they found on a dark corner of the internet. 

    Hope they just stay home. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,092
    Biden
    gee, what a surprise. haha

    In state after state, Haley outperformed Trump in suburban areas that are home to moderate and more highly educated Republican voters.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,980
    gee, what a surprise. haha

    In state after state, Haley outperformed Trump in suburban areas that are home to moderate and more highly educated Republican voters.
    They’ll come to their “senses” and vote POOTWH.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,806
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    At least these folks can express themselves with words instead of a meme they found on a dark corner of the internet. 

    Hope they just stay home. 
    I agree.  One of them knew the word "octogenarian". 

    If 20% of Haley support becomes either stay at home or Biden,  that is a big number.  And not inconceivable. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,092
    Biden
    so who does trump run with as VP?
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,466
    Biden
    so who does trump run with as VP?
    My money has been on Stefanik for a while now...
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,980
    so who does trump run with as VP?
    Nikkki or Gnome from SD. Imagine working for POOTWH? Shudder.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,092
    Biden
    Nikki? after campaigning on her being a birdbrain? I can't see that, not even from that moron. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,980
    Nikki? after campaigning on her being a birdbrain? I can't see that, not even from that moron. 
    Power, being a heartbeat away and the oval are all intoxicating. She’d sell her soul for that opportunity. She’s done if she’s not VP or in the cabinet. Her time is now, not in 4 years.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,092
    Biden
    I meant I can't see it from Trump, aligning himself with someone he called birdbrain and other adjectives. 
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,980
    I meant I can't see it from Trump, aligning himself with someone he called birdbrain and other adjectives. 
    He needs suburban women and besides Nikkki’s policy positions, she brings no baggage to the table and chops as a former governor and ambassador to the UN. Plus, she’s already said she’d pardon POOTWH so there’s no downside. POOTWH just shrugs.
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    VitalogensiaVitalogensia Posts: 1,967
    Biden
    All it takes is groveling.  
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,092
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,980

    And it appears that they may have built him as well.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,466
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    Biden
    Nikki? after campaigning on her being a birdbrain? I can't see that, not even from that moron. 
    Power, being a heartbeat away and the oval are all intoxicating. She’d sell her soul for that opportunity. She’s done if she’s not VP or in the cabinet. Her time is now, not in 4 years.
    That is not entirely true. She could be playing the long game and betting Trump loses and goes to prison. Polling shows the only thing that will crater his support is if he becomes a convicted felon. She'd be set up well in '28 in that scenario. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,272
    Biden
    Nikki? after campaigning on her being a birdbrain? I can't see that, not even from that moron. 
    Power, being a heartbeat away and the oval are all intoxicating. She’d sell her soul for that opportunity. She’s done if she’s not VP or in the cabinet. Her time is now, not in 4 years.
    That is not entirely true. She could be playing the long game and betting Trump loses and goes to prison. Polling shows the only thing that will crater his support is if he becomes a convicted felon. She'd be set up well in '28 in that scenario. 
    can any of the other candidates "unsuspend" their campaign in the event trump gets convicted?

    sounds like something chris christie or desantis would do.
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    Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,980
    Nikki? after campaigning on her being a birdbrain? I can't see that, not even from that moron. 
    Power, being a heartbeat away and the oval are all intoxicating. She’d sell her soul for that opportunity. She’s done if she’s not VP or in the cabinet. Her time is now, not in 4 years.
    That is not entirely true. She could be playing the long game and betting Trump loses and goes to prison. Polling shows the only thing that will crater his support is if he becomes a convicted felon. She'd be set up well in '28 in that scenario. 
    POOTWH going to prison now or within 4 years has no bearing as she’s dropped out of the race. Four years from now she’s a “has been” and voters have moved on, particularly repub voters.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,945
    edited March 6
    Biden
    Nikki? after campaigning on her being a birdbrain? I can't see that, not even from that moron. 
    Power, being a heartbeat away and the oval are all intoxicating. She’d sell her soul for that opportunity. She’s done if she’s not VP or in the cabinet. Her time is now, not in 4 years.
    That is not entirely true. She could be playing the long game and betting Trump loses and goes to prison. Polling shows the only thing that will crater his support is if he becomes a convicted felon. She'd be set up well in '28 in that scenario. 
    can any of the other candidates "unsuspend" their campaign in the event trump gets convicted?

    sounds like something chris christie or desantis would do.

    Is conviction before the election still possible or even likely (I honestly don't know)?  He keeps managing to get trial dates pushed forward.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    Biden
    so who does trump run with as VP?
    My money has been on Stefanik for a while now...
    Mine's been on Tulski Gabbard. She's pro-Russia, loves to lash out at the Democratic Party, and is decent looking (which matters to Trump).
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,839
    Biden
    Though the most important thing might be the willingness to pledge never to certify a presidential election to the Democrat under any circumstance.

    Do what Pence didn't have the guts to do.
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,349
    Biden
    tbergs said:
    I mean, you'd have to believe Trump won in order to rally your party behind him again after losing so badly last time. It'd be like if Dems let Hillary take another shot at it.

    What happens if Biden dies before the election? Does that put Kamala at the top of the ticket?

    I've really come to dread presidential election years. They bring out the worst in this country and really show you how shitty people can be. 

    doesnt take a presidential election for that.
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,272
    Biden
    its going to be mtg.
    There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow man; true nobility is being superior to your former self.- Hemingway

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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