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  • JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,319
    Biden
    Kat said:
    It's time to call the races. 


    Unfortunately it’s not, as tiring as this process is. Democrats have been claiming PA is going to quickly grow to a 60k lead “within a day” all week  and it’s been stuck at about 14k since early this am local time. None of the other 3 key pending states give Biden enough to get to 270. Unfortunately it could be days, not hours. I hope I am wrong, but am very curious why Biden didn’t get a solid cushion in PA today as a lot of experts predicted. The PA website has been stuck on about 115k uncounted most of the day. I have been looking for new court challenges but can’t find any. GA will not be called until the state discloses there are fewer votes than trump needs to win and AZ & NV seem very unorganized with a lot of ballots pending.

     There has been so much poor information from “experts” this election season, the president deserves the race to not be called until it is mathematically impossible for him to win. The 3 day rule in PA trump fought so hard against ironically could buy him some time now.

    I think many democrats in online forums (not necessarily here) are forgetting how close this election is. Trump is fractions of a point from 278 electoral votes.
    You have your answer. Biden's cushion didn't grow because they are so slow in counting the vote. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,473
    Biden
    Kat said:
    It's time to call the races. 


    Unfortunately it’s not, as tiring as this process is. Democrats have been claiming PA is going to quickly grow to a 60k lead “within a day” all week  and it’s been stuck at about 14k since early this am local time. None of the other 3 key pending states give Biden enough to get to 270. Unfortunately it could be days, not hours. I hope I am wrong, but am very curious why Biden didn’t get a solid cushion in PA today as a lot of experts predicted. The PA website has been stuck on about 115k uncounted most of the day. I have been looking for new court challenges but can’t find any. GA will not be called until the state discloses there are fewer votes than trump needs to win and AZ & NV seem very unorganized with a lot of ballots pending.

     There has been so much poor information from “experts” this election season, the president deserves the race to not be called until it is mathematically impossible for him to win. The 3 day rule in PA trump fought so hard against ironically could buy him some time now.

    I think many democrats in online forums (not necessarily here) are forgetting how close this election is. Trump is fractions of a point from 278 electoral votes.
    but it's not that close. cnn wouldn't constantly be saying it's biden's victory without actually calling it if it weren't true. almost all of the key races left to be called are all highly democratic areas, and he's getting consistently much higher a percentage than he needs to catch up and/or surpass. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,199
    https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/524828-graham-biden-deserves-a-cabinet-if-he-wins?amp
    This POS has bigger balls then the Covidiot himself Biden should tell him to go jump of a cliff, how is it possible he still has a job is beyond me SC is clueless another state I’ll never set foot in..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,815
    edited November 2020
    JimmyV said:
    Kat said:
    It's time to call the races. 


    Unfortunately it’s not, as tiring as this process is. Democrats have been claiming PA is going to quickly grow to a 60k lead “within a day” all week  and it’s been stuck at about 14k since early this am local time. None of the other 3 key pending states give Biden enough to get to 270. Unfortunately it could be days, not hours. I hope I am wrong, but am very curious why Biden didn’t get a solid cushion in PA today as a lot of experts predicted. The PA website has been stuck on about 115k uncounted most of the day. I have been looking for new court challenges but can’t find any. GA will not be called until the state discloses there are fewer votes than trump needs to win and AZ & NV seem very unorganized with a lot of ballots pending.

     There has been so much poor information from “experts” this election season, the president deserves the race to not be called until it is mathematically impossible for him to win. The 3 day rule in PA trump fought so hard against ironically could buy him some time now.

    I think many democrats in online forums (not necessarily here) are forgetting how close this election is. Trump is fractions of a point from 278 electoral votes.
    You have your answer. Biden's cushion didn't grow because they are so slow in counting the vote. 

    Regarding the bulk of votes in Allegheny County, PA-

    “ they will turn to the remaining 29,000 ballots, which a court ordered set aside until today because they were cast by people who were initially mailed the incorrect ballot, then mailed a replacement. Poll workers must go through each of these ballots to ensure that each voter only casts one ballot. Allegheny County officials say it will probably take a few days to get through this batch, so Pennsylvania counting isn’t ending tonight.“

    So Biden needs to grow his lead by about 20k more out of the 75k potentially pending ballots outside of Allegheny (for a network to comfortably make a call). This could drag on a while. NV is in the process of calling voters to have them come in and cure ballots. This is all a lawyers dream. Trump is gaining in AZ so nobody’s calling that one quick and GA is as tight as it gets outside of Al Gore losing. Where is this 60k PA lead, fake media? And MSNBC is unwatchable, they were crying why the mean republicans aren’t conceding.


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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,199
    So I ask again will the Covidiot come back and take this for the win! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,473
    Biden
    So I ask again will the Covidiot come back and take this for the win! 
    incredibly unlikely. but if you put down 1000 bucks on him and he does you'll be a wealthy man
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,199
    So I ask again will the Covidiot come back and take this for the win! 
    incredibly unlikely. but if you put down 1000 bucks on him and he does you'll be a wealthy man
    I’ll make a gentleman’s bet and put it on Covidiot for the win! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,199
    This is an absolute clusterfuck and the DNC hasn’t learned a damn thing from past elections! How many contested elections have worked out for the Democrats? Zero none go ahead tell me which contested election has worked out for the DEMOCRATS, they missed the boat while Obama had both chambers they should of gone for the kill! Now the GOP still have all the power playing nice has been over from the day turtle face McConnell proclaimed that Obama was to be a one term president!!
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,953
    Biden
    This is an absolute clusterfuck and the DNC hasn’t learned a damn thing from past elections! How many contested elections have worked out for the Democrats? Zero none go ahead tell me which contested election has worked out for the DEMOCRATS, they missed the boat while Obama had both chambers they should of gone for the kill! Now the GOP still have all the power playing nice has been over from the day turtle face McConnell proclaimed that Obama was to be a one term president!!
    What are you even saying?  This election isn't contested at the moment.  What are you suggesting, that Biden goes on TV and start yapping around like an idiot saying he won and stop the count?  
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 42,416
    Biden
    I ran out to the store for a few things and while shopping, overheard these two guy talking.  One guy told the other, "I like your hat."  (How did I guess it was a Trump hat.  Well, this is Hell Dorado County, after all.)  From there it went to these guys talking about how "Biden won by cheating" and how  "it isn't over in Pennsylvania- a lot of those votes are phony".  Finally, one of them said, "We just have to keep hoping, keep praying."

    Well, OK, their guy lost.  Sure, they're going to be upset.  I had to keep that in mind.  But "won by cheating".  I wanted to say, "Come on, dudes..." but kept my mouth shut.   And what is this about "keep praying"?  Pray for Trump's soul?  Pray that a godless, selfish, cheating, lying, self-absorbed, hateful man will... what?  Win anyway?  Or change his ways and stop being so evil?

    I don't understand these people.  Not one bit. 
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    -Eddie Vedder, "Smile"

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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    JimmyV said:
    Kat said:
    It's time to call the races. 


    Unfortunately it’s not, as tiring as this process is. Democrats have been claiming PA is going to quickly grow to a 60k lead “within a day” all week  and it’s been stuck at about 14k since early this am local time. None of the other 3 key pending states give Biden enough to get to 270. Unfortunately it could be days, not hours. I hope I am wrong, but am very curious why Biden didn’t get a solid cushion in PA today as a lot of experts predicted. The PA website has been stuck on about 115k uncounted most of the day. I have been looking for new court challenges but can’t find any. GA will not be called until the state discloses there are fewer votes than trump needs to win and AZ & NV seem very unorganized with a lot of ballots pending.

     There has been so much poor information from “experts” this election season, the president deserves the race to not be called until it is mathematically impossible for him to win. The 3 day rule in PA trump fought so hard against ironically could buy him some time now.

    I think many democrats in online forums (not necessarily here) are forgetting how close this election is. Trump is fractions of a point from 278 electoral votes.
    You have your answer. Biden's cushion didn't grow because they are so slow in counting the vote. 

    Regarding the bulk of votes in Allegheny County, PA-

    “ they will turn to the remaining 29,000 ballots, which a court ordered set aside until today because they were cast by people who were initially mailed the incorrect ballot, then mailed a replacement. Poll workers must go through each of these ballots to ensure that each voter only casts one ballot. Allegheny County officials say it will probably take a few days to get through this batch, so Pennsylvania counting isn’t ending tonight.“

    So Biden needs to grow his lead by about 20k more out of the 75k potentially pending ballots outside of Allegheny (for a network to comfortably make a call). This could drag on a while. NV is in the process of calling voters to have them come in and cure ballots. This is all a lawyers dream. Trump is gaining in AZ so nobody’s calling that one quick and GA is as tight as it gets outside of Al Gore losing. Where is this 60k PA lead, fake media? And MSNBC is unwatchable, they were crying why the mean republicans aren’t conceding.


    I live in one of these counties and it’s my understanding that PA has 201,000 to go which includes the 26,000 or 29,000 previously mentioned by someone.  My guess would be that the mayor of the city and the county executive are not leaving anything for trump to file a legitimate complaint.  They and the governor and governor elect despise him.  Plus we’ve never held an election like this ever. At the most PA would have to open 20,000 absentee ballots.....now it’s what 3 million!  Trust me I’m not sticking up for state cause I’m screaming at the tv also....just giving some perspective 
  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    cblock4life said:
    JimmyV said:
    Kat said:
    It's time to call the races. 


    Unfortunately it’s not, as tiring as this process is. Democrats have been claiming PA is going to quickly grow to a 60k lead “within a day” all week  and it’s been stuck at about 14k since early this am local time. None of the other 3 key pending states give Biden enough to get to 270. Unfortunately it could be days, not hours. I hope I am wrong, but am very curious why Biden didn’t get a solid cushion in PA today as a lot of experts predicted. The PA website has been stuck on about 115k uncounted most of the day. I have been looking for new court challenges but can’t find any. GA will not be called until the state discloses there are fewer votes than trump needs to win and AZ & NV seem very unorganized with a lot of ballots pending.

     There has been so much poor information from “experts” this election season, the president deserves the race to not be called until it is mathematically impossible for him to win. The 3 day rule in PA trump fought so hard against ironically could buy him some time now.

    I think many democrats in online forums (not necessarily here) are forgetting how close this election is. Trump is fractions of a point from 278 electoral votes.
    You have your answer. Biden's cushion didn't grow because they are so slow in counting the vote. 

    Regarding the bulk of votes in Allegheny County, PA-

    “ they will turn to the remaining 29,000 ballots, which a court ordered set aside until today because they were cast by people who were initially mailed the incorrect ballot, then mailed a replacement. Poll workers must go through each of these ballots to ensure that each voter only casts one ballot. Allegheny County officials say it will probably take a few days to get through this batch, so Pennsylvania counting isn’t ending tonight.“

    So Biden needs to grow his lead by about 20k more out of the 75k potentially pending ballots outside of Allegheny (for a network to comfortably make a call). This could drag on a while. NV is in the process of calling voters to have them come in and cure ballots. This is all a lawyers dream. Trump is gaining in AZ so nobody’s calling that one quick and GA is as tight as it gets outside of Al Gore losing. Where is this 60k PA lead, fake media? And MSNBC is unwatchable, they were crying why the mean republicans aren’t conceding.


    I live in one of these counties and it’s my understanding that PA has 201,000 to go which includes the 26,000 or 29,000 previously mentioned by someone.  My guess would be that the mayor of the city and the county executive are not leaving anything for trump to file a legitimate complaint.  They and the governor and governor elect despise him.  Plus we’ve never held an election like this ever. At the most PA would have to open 20,000 absentee ballots.....now it’s what 3 million!  Trust me I’m not sticking up for state cause I’m screaming at the tv also....just giving some perspective 
    not governor elect.   Lt Gov 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,199
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an absolute clusterfuck and the DNC hasn’t learned a damn thing from past elections! How many contested elections have worked out for the Democrats? Zero none go ahead tell me which contested election has worked out for the DEMOCRATS, they missed the boat while Obama had both chambers they should of gone for the kill! Now the GOP still have all the power playing nice has been over from the day turtle face McConnell proclaimed that Obama was to be a one term president!!
    What are you even saying?  This election isn't contested at the moment.  What are you suggesting, that Biden goes on TV and start yapping around like an idiot saying he won and stop the count?  
    no I’m just saying we are in this predicament because the Democrats tried playing softball while the Republicans we’re playing hard ball all along! 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,199
    From past elections! I asked how many times have the Democrats come out on top of contested elections I can’t think of one? 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,953
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an absolute clusterfuck and the DNC hasn’t learned a damn thing from past elections! How many contested elections have worked out for the Democrats? Zero none go ahead tell me which contested election has worked out for the DEMOCRATS, they missed the boat while Obama had both chambers they should of gone for the kill! Now the GOP still have all the power playing nice has been over from the day turtle face McConnell proclaimed that Obama was to be a one term president!!
    What are you even saying?  This election isn't contested at the moment.  What are you suggesting, that Biden goes on TV and start yapping around like an idiot saying he won and stop the count?  
    no I’m just saying we are in this predicament because the Democrats tried playing softball while the Republicans we’re playing hard ball all along! 
    What predicament?  Votes are being counted.  
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,953
    Biden
    From past elections! I asked how many times have the Democrats come out on top of contested elections I can’t think of one? 
    If you’re thinking of potus, how many contested elections do you remember?  Any other besides 2000?
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,815
    just found just found pending PA mail ballots by county, per state site, it’s 102k. Of that 23k are philly and 36k are Allegheny. So almost 60% are heavy democratic counties, and even the republican counties trend to Biden. One democratic concern was provisional, overseas and military all of which could trend to trump, but it really seems like Biden should pull it out. Can’t find any detail on those ballots. Count, baby count!
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,108
    Biden
    PA just needs to get to a .5% margin to not have a recount. And that's not far off. 
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,199
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an absolute clusterfuck and the DNC hasn’t learned a damn thing from past elections! How many contested elections have worked out for the Democrats? Zero none go ahead tell me which contested election has worked out for the DEMOCRATS, they missed the boat while Obama had both chambers they should of gone for the kill! Now the GOP still have all the power playing nice has been over from the day turtle face McConnell proclaimed that Obama was to be a one term president!!
    What are you even saying?  This election isn't contested at the moment.  What are you suggesting, that Biden goes on TV and start yapping around like an idiot saying he won and stop the count?  
    no I’m just saying we are in this predicament because the Democrats tried playing softball while the Republicans we’re playing hard ball all along! 
    What predicament?  Votes are being counted.  
    You have faith in the system I don’t this election happened on Tuesday here we are Friday and still no clear winner, they are bending backwards to please this turd I don’t trust them at all the longer it takes the more is in the favor of him..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • McConnell already signaling much smaller virus bill. Pelosi holding on to her pipe dream.  Who’s more delusional?  Trump or Pelosi?  She still doesn’t realize she’s mostly irrelevant in the new world.  Maybe she’s just doing that to hold on to the gavel.    Her best shot might be to convince Trump to agree to something in the next 2 months.  lol. Welcome to the Biden Years.  This thing might actually work out better.  Trump actually forced more spending than was probably wise.  

    Cuomo And Newsom are definitely going to GA to campaign for Senate.  Lol.  
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • Graham had great comment today - “Biden deserves a cabinet.”   Reminding everyone who approves those nominations.   No Warren Secy of State.  Lol.  This is going to be enjoyable.  
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,953
    Biden
    McConnell already signaling much smaller virus bill. Pelosi holding on to her pipe dream.  Who’s more delusional?  Trump or Pelosi?  She still doesn’t realize she’s mostly irrelevant in the new world.  Maybe she’s just doing that to hold on to the gavel.    Her best shot might be to convince Trump to agree to something in the next 2 months.  lol. Welcome to the Biden Years.  This thing might actually work out better.  Trump actually forced more spending than was probably wise.  

    Cuomo And Newsom are definitely going to GA to campaign for Senate.  Lol.  
    You alternate between lucid and delusional posts.
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,338
    mrussel1 said:
    McConnell already signaling much smaller virus bill. Pelosi holding on to her pipe dream.  Who’s more delusional?  Trump or Pelosi?  She still doesn’t realize she’s mostly irrelevant in the new world.  Maybe she’s just doing that to hold on to the gavel.    Her best shot might be to convince Trump to agree to something in the next 2 months.  lol. Welcome to the Biden Years.  This thing might actually work out better.  Trump actually forced more spending than was probably wise.  

    Cuomo And Newsom are definitely going to GA to campaign for Senate.  Lol.  
    You alternate between lucid and delusional posts.
    Ha! You still read them? 
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,108
    Biden
    Yeah, there's certain people that post and ya kinda just gloss over at their post.
  • darwinstheorydarwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 6,652
    Biden
    Yeah, there's certain people that post and ya kinda just gloss over at their post.
    So true! I often ask myself why people take the bait with....certain people who are clearly just looking to argue.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • Tax increase propositions turned away in 3 true blue states - Cali, Ill and Colorado.  

    Colorado actually approved a tax DECREASE while closing fee loopholes.  

    Illinois rejected graduated tax, leaving flat tax in place.  

    interesting.  Nobody likes tax increases.  
    Sorry. The world doesn't work the way you tell it to.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,473
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    This is an absolute clusterfuck and the DNC hasn’t learned a damn thing from past elections! How many contested elections have worked out for the Democrats? Zero none go ahead tell me which contested election has worked out for the DEMOCRATS, they missed the boat while Obama had both chambers they should of gone for the kill! Now the GOP still have all the power playing nice has been over from the day turtle face McConnell proclaimed that Obama was to be a one term president!!
    What are you even saying?  This election isn't contested at the moment.  What are you suggesting, that Biden goes on TV and start yapping around like an idiot saying he won and stop the count?  
    jose's been pretty stressed out these last 4 years. 
    "Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk"
    -EV  8/14/93




  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    So I ask again will the Covidiot come back and take this for the win! 
    I can not see it unless somehow the supreme court got involved...and they may get stupid...after-all 3 are Trump appointees.  As far as I'm concerned your, not a democracy any more than Canada...6-7 states determine the POTUS is just as much BS as Ontario and Quebec deciding our elections...both countries need better democracies...

    Anyways, I think Biden will be Potus...and hopefully, Trumps goes meltdown and gets hauled out in handcuffs... :)
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,815
    Graham had great comment today - “Biden deserves a cabinet.”   Reminding everyone who approves those nominations.   No Warren Secy of State.  Lol.  This is going to be enjoyable.  

    Senate is not decided yet, and warren needs to stay in the senate. No need to risk her seat.

    Plus, no need for confirmations, Trump has shown we can have “acting” cabinet members.
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