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BOSTON (AP) — A texting company run by one of President Donald Trump’s top campaign officials sent out thousands of targeted, anonymous text messages urging supporters to rally where votes were being counted in Philadelphia on Thursday, falsely claiming Democrats were trying to steal the presidential election.
The messages directed Trump fans to converge at a downtown intersection where hundreds of protesters from the opposing candidates’ camps faced off Thursday afternoon. Pennsylvania is a crucial battleground state where former Vice President Joe Biden's jumped ahead Friday and in a televised address later predicted a victory that would give him the presidency.
“This kind of message is playing with fire, and we are very lucky that it does not seem to have driven more conflict,” said John Scott-Railton, senior researcher at the University of Toronto’s online watchdog Citizen Lab. Scott-Railton helped track down the source.
The texts were sent using phone numbers leased to the text-messaging platform Opn Sesame, said two people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition they not be further identified. The company’s CEO is Gary Coby, the Trump campaign’s digital director. It provides text-messaging services to GOP clients including the Republican National Committee.
“ALERT: Radical Liberals & Dems are trying to steal this election from Trump! We need YOU!” the text said, directing recipients to “show your support” on a street corner near the Philadelphia Convention Center where votes were being counted and tensions were running high.
A top Trump campaign official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the message did not come from the campaign. Because Opn Sesame is used by multiple customers, none of whom the company would identify, it could not be determined exactly who sent the message. Coby declined to comment.
Opn Sesame’s connection with the messages was first reported by The Washington Post.
Among those who received the rallying text was Chris Bray, who lives in rural Bucks County, about 25 miles outside Philadelphia.
A registered Independent who said he voted for Biden, Bray said he was very surprised to see the message pop up on his phone since he never signed up for anything related to the Trump campaign.
“I actually texted a number of other friends to say ‘hey, have you guys been getting robo-texts like this?’" Bray said Friday. “It was a call to action. It borders on that the rhetoric that we’ve been hearing for months now and that’s really dangerous if you get the right people together with a slight screw loose, we just don’t know what can happen.”
Later Thursday night, two men were arrested near the convention center for carrying loaded handguns without a permit, Police Commissioner Danielle Outlaw said. District Attorney Larry Krasner said there were no indications they were part of an extremist group. Their vehicle bore a window sticker for the right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon and an AR-style rifle and ammunition inside, Outlaw said.
The text messages were sent using 13 different phone numbers identified by RoboKiller, a mobile phone app that lets users block text and voice spam, said company vice president Giulia Porter. RoboKiller traced the numbers to Twilio, a gateway for bulk-messaging services.
After being notified, Twilio shut down the numbers, saying in a statement that the texts “were sent without consumer opt-out language, which is in direct contravention of our policies.” A company spokesman declined further comment.
About 80 million political text messages have been sent daily since September in the U.S. — many of those from the Trump camp echoing his baseless claims that Democrats were trying to steal the election, said RoboKiller’s Porter. They are highly targeted.
Political text-messaging campaigns can exploit the same flaws in telecommunications infrastructure that let robocallers hide their origin. They can spoof the numbers they call from and auto-blast thousands of texts with a single mouse click.
Opn Sesame has earned millions as a hub of text-messaging efforts for the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee this election cycle, said a digital Republican strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of political retribution.
“They really want to circumvent the need to rely social media firms which is why they are using these private mechanisms," he added. "They are using tech that we don’t think of as particularly new, texting, calling, but using them in ways that are very Machiavellian.”
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BOSTON (AP) — A texting company run by one of President Donald Trump’s top campaign officials sent out thousands of targeted, anonymous text messages urging supporters to rally where votes were being counted in Philadelphia on Thursday, falsely claiming Democrats were trying to steal the presidential election.
The messages directed Trump fans to converge at a downtown intersection where hundreds of protesters from the opposing candidates’ camps faced off Thursday afternoon. Pennsylvania is a crucial battleground state where former Vice President Joe Biden's jumped ahead Friday and in a televised address later predicted a victory that would give him the presidency.
“This kind of message is playing with fire, and we are very lucky that it does not seem to have driven more conflict,” said John Scott-Railton, senior researcher at the University of Toronto’s online watchdog Citizen Lab. Scott-Railton helped track down the source.
The texts were sent using phone numbers leased to the text-messaging platform Opn Sesame, said two people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition they not be further identified. The company’s CEO is Gary Coby, the Trump campaign’s digital director. It provides text-messaging services to GOP clients including the Republican National Committee.
“ALERT: Radical Liberals & Dems are trying to steal this election from Trump! We need YOU!” the text said, directing recipients to “show your support” on a street corner near the Philadelphia Convention Center where votes were being counted and tensions were running high.
A top Trump campaign official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the message did not come from the campaign. Because Opn Sesame is used by multiple customers, none of whom the company would identify, it could not be determined exactly who sent the message. Coby declined to comment.
Opn Sesame’s connection with the messages was first reported by The Washington Post.
Among those who received the rallying text was Chris Bray, who lives in rural Bucks County, about 25 miles outside Philadelphia.
A registered Independent who said he voted for Biden, Bray said he was very surprised to see the message pop up on his phone since he never signed up for anything related to the Trump campaign.
“I actually texted a number of other friends to say ‘hey, have you guys been getting robo-texts like this?’" Bray said Friday. “It was a call to action. It borders on that the rhetoric that we’ve been hearing for months now and that’s really dangerous if you get the right people together with a slight screw loose, we just don’t know what can happen.”
Later Thursday night, two men were arrested near the convention center for carrying loaded handguns without a permit, Police Commissioner Danielle Outlaw said. District Attorney Larry Krasner said there were no indications they were part of an extremist group. Their vehicle bore a window sticker for the right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon and an AR-style rifle and ammunition inside, Outlaw said.
The text messages were sent using 13 different phone numbers identified by RoboKiller, a mobile phone app that lets users block text and voice spam, said company vice president Giulia Porter. RoboKiller traced the numbers to Twilio, a gateway for bulk-messaging services.
After being notified, Twilio shut down the numbers, saying in a statement that the texts “were sent without consumer opt-out language, which is in direct contravention of our policies.” A company spokesman declined further comment.
About 80 million political text messages have been sent daily since September in the U.S. — many of those from the Trump camp echoing his baseless claims that Democrats were trying to steal the election, said RoboKiller’s Porter. They are highly targeted.
Political text-messaging campaigns can exploit the same flaws in telecommunications infrastructure that let robocallers hide their origin. They can spoof the numbers they call from and auto-blast thousands of texts with a single mouse click.
Opn Sesame has earned millions as a hub of text-messaging efforts for the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee this election cycle, said a digital Republican strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of political retribution.
“They really want to circumvent the need to rely social media firms which is why they are using these private mechanisms," he added. "They are using tech that we don’t think of as particularly new, texting, calling, but using them in ways that are very Machiavellian.”
___
Burke reported from San Francisco
I'm a bit nervous about how Trumpsters are going to react when the call is finally made announcing Biden has won.* Trump is stirring up his followers. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I have personally witnessed talk between two Trump followers and it was a bit unnerving.
In a state that voted very strongly for Biden (64.7% for Biden and only 33.4% for Trump) the county I live in has thus far voted 43.81% for Biden and 52.25% for Trump. That's 9,727 more votes for Trump than Biden in Hell Dorado County.
Just to be on the safe side, I've stocked up on food and water and am staying for at least the next couple days. I don't expect trouble, but I'm staying away from town just in case.
(*As an aside question, how did it become the job of major media agencies to declare a winner? How long has this been so? Does anyone know for certain why this is so?)
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BOSTON (AP) — A texting company run by one of President Donald Trump’s top campaign officials sent out thousands of targeted, anonymous text messages urging supporters to rally where votes were being counted in Philadelphia on Thursday, falsely claiming Democrats were trying to steal the presidential election.
The messages directed Trump fans to converge at a downtown intersection where hundreds of protesters from the opposing candidates’ camps faced off Thursday afternoon. Pennsylvania is a crucial battleground state where former Vice President Joe Biden's jumped ahead Friday and in a televised address later predicted a victory that would give him the presidency.
“This kind of message is playing with fire, and we are very lucky that it does not seem to have driven more conflict,” said John Scott-Railton, senior researcher at the University of Toronto’s online watchdog Citizen Lab. Scott-Railton helped track down the source.
The texts were sent using phone numbers leased to the text-messaging platform Opn Sesame, said two people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition they not be further identified. The company’s CEO is Gary Coby, the Trump campaign’s digital director. It provides text-messaging services to GOP clients including the Republican National Committee.
“ALERT: Radical Liberals & Dems are trying to steal this election from Trump! We need YOU!” the text said, directing recipients to “show your support” on a street corner near the Philadelphia Convention Center where votes were being counted and tensions were running high.
A top Trump campaign official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the message did not come from the campaign. Because Opn Sesame is used by multiple customers, none of whom the company would identify, it could not be determined exactly who sent the message. Coby declined to comment.
Opn Sesame’s connection with the messages was first reported by The Washington Post.
Among those who received the rallying text was Chris Bray, who lives in rural Bucks County, about 25 miles outside Philadelphia.
A registered Independent who said he voted for Biden, Bray said he was very surprised to see the message pop up on his phone since he never signed up for anything related to the Trump campaign.
“I actually texted a number of other friends to say ‘hey, have you guys been getting robo-texts like this?’" Bray said Friday. “It was a call to action. It borders on that the rhetoric that we’ve been hearing for months now and that’s really dangerous if you get the right people together with a slight screw loose, we just don’t know what can happen.”
Later Thursday night, two men were arrested near the convention center for carrying loaded handguns without a permit, Police Commissioner Danielle Outlaw said. District Attorney Larry Krasner said there were no indications they were part of an extremist group. Their vehicle bore a window sticker for the right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon and an AR-style rifle and ammunition inside, Outlaw said.
The text messages were sent using 13 different phone numbers identified by RoboKiller, a mobile phone app that lets users block text and voice spam, said company vice president Giulia Porter. RoboKiller traced the numbers to Twilio, a gateway for bulk-messaging services.
After being notified, Twilio shut down the numbers, saying in a statement that the texts “were sent without consumer opt-out language, which is in direct contravention of our policies.” A company spokesman declined further comment.
About 80 million political text messages have been sent daily since September in the U.S. — many of those from the Trump camp echoing his baseless claims that Democrats were trying to steal the election, said RoboKiller’s Porter. They are highly targeted.
Political text-messaging campaigns can exploit the same flaws in telecommunications infrastructure that let robocallers hide their origin. They can spoof the numbers they call from and auto-blast thousands of texts with a single mouse click.
Opn Sesame has earned millions as a hub of text-messaging efforts for the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee this election cycle, said a digital Republican strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of political retribution.
“They really want to circumvent the need to rely social media firms which is why they are using these private mechanisms," he added. "They are using tech that we don’t think of as particularly new, texting, calling, but using them in ways that are very Machiavellian.”
___
Burke reported from San Francisco
I'm a bit nervous about how Trumpsters are going to react when the call is finally made announcing Biden has won.* Trump is stirring up his followers. As I've mentioned elsewhere, I have personally witnessed talk between two Trump followers and it was a bit unnerving.
In a state that voted very strongly for Biden (64.7% for Biden and only 33.4% for Trump) the county I live in has thus far voted 43.81% for Biden and 52.25% for Trump. That's 9,727 more votes for Trump than Biden in Hell Dorado County.
Just to be on the safe side, I've stocked up on food and water and am staying for at least the next couple days. I don't expect trouble, but I'm staying away from town just in case.
(*As an aside question, how did it become the job of major media agencies to declare a winner? How long has this been so? Does anyone know for certain why this is so?)
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BOSTON (AP) — A texting company run by one of President Donald Trump’s top campaign officials sent out thousands of targeted, anonymous text messages urging supporters to rally where votes were being counted in Philadelphia on Thursday, falsely claiming Democrats were trying to steal the presidential election.
The messages directed Trump fans to converge at a downtown intersection where hundreds of protesters from the opposing candidates’ camps faced off Thursday afternoon. Pennsylvania is a crucial battleground state where former Vice President Joe Biden's jumped ahead Friday and in a televised address later predicted a victory that would give him the presidency.
“This kind of message is playing with fire, and we are very lucky that it does not seem to have driven more conflict,” said John Scott-Railton, senior researcher at the University of Toronto’s online watchdog Citizen Lab. Scott-Railton helped track down the source.
The texts were sent using phone numbers leased to the text-messaging platform Opn Sesame, said two people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition they not be further identified. The company’s CEO is Gary Coby, the Trump campaign’s digital director. It provides text-messaging services to GOP clients including the Republican National Committee.
“ALERT: Radical Liberals & Dems are trying to steal this election from Trump! We need YOU!” the text said, directing recipients to “show your support” on a street corner near the Philadelphia Convention Center where votes were being counted and tensions were running high.
A top Trump campaign official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the message did not come from the campaign. Because Opn Sesame is used by multiple customers, none of whom the company would identify, it could not be determined exactly who sent the message. Coby declined to comment.
Opn Sesame’s connection with the messages was first reported by The Washington Post.
Among those who received the rallying text was Chris Bray, who lives in rural Bucks County, about 25 miles outside Philadelphia.
A registered Independent who said he voted for Biden, Bray said he was very surprised to see the message pop up on his phone since he never signed up for anything related to the Trump campaign.
“I actually texted a number of other friends to say ‘hey, have you guys been getting robo-texts like this?’" Bray said Friday. “It was a call to action. It borders on that the rhetoric that we’ve been hearing for months now and that’s really dangerous if you get the right people together with a slight screw loose, we just don’t know what can happen.”
Later Thursday night, two men were arrested near the convention center for carrying loaded handguns without a permit, Police Commissioner Danielle Outlaw said. District Attorney Larry Krasner said there were no indications they were part of an extremist group. Their vehicle bore a window sticker for the right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon and an AR-style rifle and ammunition inside, Outlaw said.
The text messages were sent using 13 different phone numbers identified by RoboKiller, a mobile phone app that lets users block text and voice spam, said company vice president Giulia Porter. RoboKiller traced the numbers to Twilio, a gateway for bulk-messaging services.
After being notified, Twilio shut down the numbers, saying in a statement that the texts “were sent without consumer opt-out language, which is in direct contravention of our policies.” A company spokesman declined further comment.
About 80 million political text messages have been sent daily since September in the U.S. — many of those from the Trump camp echoing his baseless claims that Democrats were trying to steal the election, said RoboKiller’s Porter. They are highly targeted.
Political text-messaging campaigns can exploit the same flaws in telecommunications infrastructure that let robocallers hide their origin. They can spoof the numbers they call from and auto-blast thousands of texts with a single mouse click.
Opn Sesame has earned millions as a hub of text-messaging efforts for the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee this election cycle, said a digital Republican strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of political retribution.
“They really want to circumvent the need to rely social media firms which is why they are using these private mechanisms," he added. "They are using tech that we don’t think of as particularly new, texting, calling, but using them in ways that are very Machiavellian.”
___
Burke reported from San Francisco
It’s basically a call to arms, fucking despicable Republicans!
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"..That's One Happy Fuckin Ghost.."
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Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion.
Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error.
Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so?
I never said that. My comment was “this is unsettling.” To find a swing of 6000 votes in an election that could be decided by not much more than that is unsettling to me. Didn’t say I didn’t trust it. They don’t know if it was a glitch in the software that is also used in many other counties or human error or human error. Human error is just going to cast more doubt on those already doubting. So yeah, 4 days after the election to have a swing of 6000 votes when in the right state that could be a big factor is unsettling. I would think it would be to everyone, whoever you voted for. A Biden supporter now has to hope this was a one-time glitch. Trump supporter is going to look for more. In this election with everything going on at the current moment, I would think this is worth mentioning. Never said it was fraud, never said I don’t trust it. Literally just said it was unsettling.
So you know how democrats felt when Bush got 300 illegally cast late votes in Florida, then sued Gore in federal Supreme Court to override Florida courts and law to stop the recount once he had a “comfortable” lead?
“On Wednesday, November 15, 2000, Al Gore lawyer Mark Herron sent a memo to Democratic recount observers telling them how to challenge late-arriving overseas absentee ballots that did not have a valid postmark on them.
This would have potentially thrown out the votes of hundreds of military members stationed overseas. In a race separated by about 300 votes at the time, these votes could have been decisive in choosing the next president.
the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.
NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.
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How about Ohio 2004? Not many talk about Ohio.
“The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
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“GovTech shall install and host (as set forth in Exhibit B. ) a mirror site of the Application to provide a fail-over solution in the event of failure of the primary installation on Election Day.” This “hot rollover configuration,” as the document explained, “can completely re-point the site if the primary site should fail by using some remote monitoring capabilities.” And that’s exactly what happened at 11:13pm when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry was up three points over Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Ohio’s 2004 votes were outsourced to Smartech in Chattanooga, Tennessee, owned by right-wing evangelical publisher Jeff Averbeck, subcontracted by Connell. The vote count inexplicably flipped at 12:21am changing from Kerry winning by over 3 percentage points to Bush winning by over 3 percentage points. Overall, there was an unexplainable rapid 6.7 percent shift in the vote count. Smartech was also, curiously, the company that handled Karl Rove’s private email accounts from the White House. Millions of Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared
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” According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.
The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged".[65] Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.[66]...
On January 6, 2005, SenatorBarbara Boxer of California joined RepresentativeStephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a Congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral Collegevotes due to alleged irregularities including disqualification of provisional ballots, alleged misallocation of voting machines, and disproportionally long waits in poor and predominantly African-American communities.[69][70] The Senate voted the objection down 1–74; the House voted the objection down 31–267.[69] It was only the second Congressional objection to an entire state's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877 ...
It would be wrong of me to cite the eight convictions pertaining to manipulations and lies from trump campaign officials and indictment of thirty Russian military intel officers and entities from the 2016 election?
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yeah, Dems had to suck a lot of crap the last 20 years and we took three bullets for “the good of the country” in close elections and FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are currently serving LIFETIME TERMS as a result of blatant election manipulations.
there is zero evidence so far of this happening now, and it’s nowhere near as close as 2000, so suck it.
Trump & his base have been crying about non existent voter fraud for some time now. They put together a voter integrity commission to uncover all the voter fraud in this country & came up w/ jack shit.
Trump & his base have been crying about non existent voter fraud for some time now. They put together a voter integrity commission to uncover all the voter fraud in this country & came up w/ jack shit.
The commission just quietly went away with nothing to show. Amazing.
Kind of on topic. I wonder how conspiracy theorists feel about Trumps 4 years in office. 9/11 hoax and other things were supposed to be proven in their favour since Trump was going to blow the lid off of all of them with huge reveals. How are they sleeping now that the time has come and went with absolutely nothing revealed. Trump part of the swamp too maybe?
AZ and GA staying blue overnight (GA expanded more than expected) is such a huge deal imo. Trump can bitch and moan all he wants about PA and NV. Proving those two red states have voter fraud too is going to be next to impossible. I guess that is why he has to go deeper into WI and MI to make his point but those gaps in those states are so large it will amount to nothing.
AZ and GA staying blue overnight (GA expanded more than expected) is such a huge deal imo. Trump can bitch and moan all he wants about PA and NV. Proving those two red states have voter fraud too is going to be next to impossible. I guess that is why he has to go deeper into WI and MI to make his point but those gaps in those states are so large it will amount to nothing.
Yeah thanks for that. An hour ago I had intended to post the good overnight news from GA but that post from mace brought back bad memories from 2000 2004 and 2016 elections when Dems had to bite the bullet for the good of the country and we get to look at 5 justices serving life terms now because those elections.
We need Biden to pick up another 40,000 margin today and not lose too much on the same day provisionals in PA. The health of the nation needs a solid margin out of PA.
edit, to clarify, and for fairness, the elections are run by the state executive branch(governors ) and both PA and NV are democrats. Also Clark county NV is run by Dems.
Trump & his base have been crying about non existent voter fraud for some time now. They put together a voter integrity commission to uncover all the voter fraud in this country & came up w/ jack shit.
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Trump & his base have been crying about non existent voter fraud for some time now. They put together a voter integrity commission to uncover all the voter fraud in this country & came up w/ jack shit.
There have been random incidents like this, sure, but the massive fraud that people are alleging that is swinging the race to Biden simply doesn’t exist; it’s just the latest GOP boogeyman used to scare people, like ms13, antifa, the soros funded caravans, hunter’s laptop etc.
How many fucking scams do people have to have pushed on them before they realize the people pushing them are scam artists?
Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion.
Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error.
Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so?
I never said that. My comment was “this is unsettling.” To find a swing of 6000 votes in an election that could be decided by not much more than that is unsettling to me. Didn’t say I didn’t trust it. They don’t know if it was a glitch in the software that is also used in many other counties or human error or human error. Human error is just going to cast more doubt on those already doubting. So yeah, 4 days after the election to have a swing of 6000 votes when in the right state that could be a big factor is unsettling. I would think it would be to everyone, whoever you voted for. A Biden supporter now has to hope this was a one-time glitch. Trump supporter is going to look for more. In this election with everything going on at the current moment, I would think this is worth mentioning. Never said it was fraud, never said I don’t trust it. Literally just said it was unsettling.
So you know how democrats felt when Bush got 300 illegally cast late votes in Florida, then sued Gore in federal Supreme Court to override Florida courts and law to stop the recount once he had a “comfortable” lead?
“On Wednesday, November 15, 2000, Al Gore lawyer Mark Herron sent a memo to Democratic recount observers telling them how to challenge late-arriving overseas absentee ballots that did not have a valid postmark on them.
This would have potentially thrown out the votes of hundreds of military members stationed overseas. In a race separated by about 300 votes at the time, these votes could have been decisive in choosing the next president.
the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.
NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.
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How about Ohio 2004? Not many talk about Ohio.
“The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
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“GovTech shall install and host (as set forth in Exhibit B. ) a mirror site of the Application to provide a fail-over solution in the event of failure of the primary installation on Election Day.” This “hot rollover configuration,” as the document explained, “can completely re-point the site if the primary site should fail by using some remote monitoring capabilities.” And that’s exactly what happened at 11:13pm when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry was up three points over Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Ohio’s 2004 votes were outsourced to Smartech in Chattanooga, Tennessee, owned by right-wing evangelical publisher Jeff Averbeck, subcontracted by Connell. The vote count inexplicably flipped at 12:21am changing from Kerry winning by over 3 percentage points to Bush winning by over 3 percentage points. Overall, there was an unexplainable rapid 6.7 percent shift in the vote count. Smartech was also, curiously, the company that handled Karl Rove’s private email accounts from the White House. Millions of Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared
...
” According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.
The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged".[65] Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.[66]...
On January 6, 2005, SenatorBarbara Boxer of California joined RepresentativeStephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a Congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral Collegevotes due to alleged irregularities including disqualification of provisional ballots, alleged misallocation of voting machines, and disproportionally long waits in poor and predominantly African-American communities.[69][70] The Senate voted the objection down 1–74; the House voted the objection down 31–267.[69] It was only the second Congressional objection to an entire state's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877 ...
It would be wrong of me to cite the eight convictions pertaining to manipulations and lies from trump campaign officials and indictment of thirty Russian military intel officers and entities from the 2016 election?
...
yeah, Dems had to suck a lot of crap the last 20 years and we took three bullets for “the good of the country” in close elections and FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are currently serving LIFETIME TERMS as a result of blatant election manipulations.
there is zero evidence so far of this happening now, and it’s nowhere near as close as 2000, so suck it.
I followed the 2004 Ohio fiasco extremely closely and it was just unbelievable what they did. That Bush regime was absolutely disgusting. And look what it got us. So yea, repubs, and Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat supporters crying voter fraud is extremely rich, particularly when “the system “ catches and fixes a glitch. Yea, unsettling.
AZ and GA staying blue overnight (GA expanded more than expected) is such a huge deal imo. Trump can bitch and moan all he wants about PA and NV. Proving those two red states have voter fraud too is going to be next to impossible. I guess that is why he has to go deeper into WI and MI to make his point but those gaps in those states are so large it will amount to nothing.
Yeah thanks for that. An hour ago I had intended to post the good overnight news from GA but that post from mace brought back bad memories from 2000 2004 and 2016 elections when Dems had to bite the bullet for the good of the country and we get to look at 5 justices serving life terms now because those elections.
We need Biden to pick up another 40,000 margin today and not lose too much on the same day provisionals in PA. The health of the nation needs a solid margin out of PA.
edit, to clarify, and for fairness, the elections are run by the state executive branch(governors ) and both PA and NV are democrats. Also Clark county NV is run by Dems.
And none of the repubs are whining about what they pulled in Tejas with limiting one ballot drop off box per county, instead characterizing it as voting is easy, you have plenty of time, what’s the big deal, etc. Yup, fuck the “other,” particularly the “dem other.” Shit hole country.
Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion.
Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error.
Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so?
I never said that. My comment was “this is unsettling.” To find a swing of 6000 votes in an election that could be decided by not much more than that is unsettling to me. Didn’t say I didn’t trust it. They don’t know if it was a glitch in the software that is also used in many other counties or human error or human error. Human error is just going to cast more doubt on those already doubting. So yeah, 4 days after the election to have a swing of 6000 votes when in the right state that could be a big factor is unsettling. I would think it would be to everyone, whoever you voted for. A Biden supporter now has to hope this was a one-time glitch. Trump supporter is going to look for more. In this election with everything going on at the current moment, I would think this is worth mentioning. Never said it was fraud, never said I don’t trust it. Literally just said it was unsettling.
So you know how democrats felt when Bush got 300 illegally cast late votes in Florida, then sued Gore in federal Supreme Court to override Florida courts and law to stop the recount once he had a “comfortable” lead?
“On Wednesday, November 15, 2000, Al Gore lawyer Mark Herron sent a memo to Democratic recount observers telling them how to challenge late-arriving overseas absentee ballots that did not have a valid postmark on them.
This would have potentially thrown out the votes of hundreds of military members stationed overseas. In a race separated by about 300 votes at the time, these votes could have been decisive in choosing the next president.
the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.
NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.
....
How about Ohio 2004? Not many talk about Ohio.
“The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
...
“GovTech shall install and host (as set forth in Exhibit B. ) a mirror site of the Application to provide a fail-over solution in the event of failure of the primary installation on Election Day.” This “hot rollover configuration,” as the document explained, “can completely re-point the site if the primary site should fail by using some remote monitoring capabilities.” And that’s exactly what happened at 11:13pm when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry was up three points over Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Ohio’s 2004 votes were outsourced to Smartech in Chattanooga, Tennessee, owned by right-wing evangelical publisher Jeff Averbeck, subcontracted by Connell. The vote count inexplicably flipped at 12:21am changing from Kerry winning by over 3 percentage points to Bush winning by over 3 percentage points. Overall, there was an unexplainable rapid 6.7 percent shift in the vote count. Smartech was also, curiously, the company that handled Karl Rove’s private email accounts from the White House. Millions of Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared
...
” According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.
The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged".[65] Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.[66]...
On January 6, 2005, SenatorBarbara Boxer of California joined RepresentativeStephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a Congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral Collegevotes due to alleged irregularities including disqualification of provisional ballots, alleged misallocation of voting machines, and disproportionally long waits in poor and predominantly African-American communities.[69][70] The Senate voted the objection down 1–74; the House voted the objection down 31–267.[69] It was only the second Congressional objection to an entire state's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877 ...
It would be wrong of me to cite the eight convictions pertaining to manipulations and lies from trump campaign officials and indictment of thirty Russian military intel officers and entities from the 2016 election?
...
yeah, Dems had to suck a lot of crap the last 20 years and we took three bullets for “the good of the country” in close elections and FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are currently serving LIFETIME TERMS as a result of blatant election manipulations.
there is zero evidence so far of this happening now, and it’s nowhere near as close as 2000, so suck it.
I followed the 2004 Ohio fiasco extremely closely and it was just unbelievable what they did. That Bush regime was absolutely disgusting. And look what it got us. So yea, repubs, and Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat supporters crying voter fraud is extremely rich, particularly when “the system “ catches and fixes a glitch. Yea, unsettling.
What’s incredible is how Ohio 2004 has been basically forgotten by most Americans. And we have no evidence of purposeful fraud now and Biden could win by five states, not one.
Wait. That part is also in the New York Post article. So why is this even news? There’s another fail safe in place even if the county hadn’t caught it. There is a hundred and fifty fucking million votes to count. And it’s somehow a news story that 3,000 of these 150,000,000 were miscounted, caught, and would have been caught even if the original catchers hadn’t caught it? Which they did. So fucking pathetic that this is even a discussion.
Total number of votes doesn’t matter if it’s going to come down to 20 or 30,000 in a few states. So yeah, 3000 is a big number. Also they don’t know if it was a glitch, said it could have been human error.
Don’t know why it’s being so dismissed when people are complaining he hasn’t conceded yet but apparently they haven’t done these double checks that would catch these things yet in a close election?
What are you talking about? They caught it on the first check. If they hadn’t, then there would have been another check. What evidence is there that we should not trust either of these checks? Be it the first check by the county, or the second check that wasn’t even needed? Because Trump said so?
I never said that. My comment was “this is unsettling.” To find a swing of 6000 votes in an election that could be decided by not much more than that is unsettling to me. Didn’t say I didn’t trust it. They don’t know if it was a glitch in the software that is also used in many other counties or human error or human error. Human error is just going to cast more doubt on those already doubting. So yeah, 4 days after the election to have a swing of 6000 votes when in the right state that could be a big factor is unsettling. I would think it would be to everyone, whoever you voted for. A Biden supporter now has to hope this was a one-time glitch. Trump supporter is going to look for more. In this election with everything going on at the current moment, I would think this is worth mentioning. Never said it was fraud, never said I don’t trust it. Literally just said it was unsettling.
So you know how democrats felt when Bush got 300 illegally cast late votes in Florida, then sued Gore in federal Supreme Court to override Florida courts and law to stop the recount once he had a “comfortable” lead?
“On Wednesday, November 15, 2000, Al Gore lawyer Mark Herron sent a memo to Democratic recount observers telling them how to challenge late-arriving overseas absentee ballots that did not have a valid postmark on them.
This would have potentially thrown out the votes of hundreds of military members stationed overseas. In a race separated by about 300 votes at the time, these votes could have been decisive in choosing the next president.
the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.
NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.
....
How about Ohio 2004? Not many talk about Ohio.
“The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
...
“GovTech shall install and host (as set forth in Exhibit B. ) a mirror site of the Application to provide a fail-over solution in the event of failure of the primary installation on Election Day.” This “hot rollover configuration,” as the document explained, “can completely re-point the site if the primary site should fail by using some remote monitoring capabilities.” And that’s exactly what happened at 11:13pm when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry was up three points over Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Ohio’s 2004 votes were outsourced to Smartech in Chattanooga, Tennessee, owned by right-wing evangelical publisher Jeff Averbeck, subcontracted by Connell. The vote count inexplicably flipped at 12:21am changing from Kerry winning by over 3 percentage points to Bush winning by over 3 percentage points. Overall, there was an unexplainable rapid 6.7 percent shift in the vote count. Smartech was also, curiously, the company that handled Karl Rove’s private email accounts from the White House. Millions of Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared
...
” According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.
The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged".[65] Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.[66]...
On January 6, 2005, SenatorBarbara Boxer of California joined RepresentativeStephanie Tubbs Jones of Ohio in filing a Congressional objection to the certification of Ohio's Electoral Collegevotes due to alleged irregularities including disqualification of provisional ballots, alleged misallocation of voting machines, and disproportionally long waits in poor and predominantly African-American communities.[69][70] The Senate voted the objection down 1–74; the House voted the objection down 31–267.[69] It was only the second Congressional objection to an entire state's electoral delegation in U.S. history; the first instance was in 1877 ...
It would be wrong of me to cite the eight convictions pertaining to manipulations and lies from trump campaign officials and indictment of thirty Russian military intel officers and entities from the 2016 election?
...
yeah, Dems had to suck a lot of crap the last 20 years and we took three bullets for “the good of the country” in close elections and FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are currently serving LIFETIME TERMS as a result of blatant election manipulations.
there is zero evidence so far of this happening now, and it’s nowhere near as close as 2000, so suck it.
I followed the 2004 Ohio fiasco extremely closely and it was just unbelievable what they did. That Bush regime was absolutely disgusting. And look what it got us. So yea, repubs, and Team Trump Treason Tax Cheat supporters crying voter fraud is extremely rich, particularly when “the system “ catches and fixes a glitch. Yea, unsettling.
What’s incredible is how Ohio 2004 has been basically forgotten by most Americans. And we have no evidence of purposeful fraud now and Biden could win by five states, not one.
It is incredible. People are able to push aside democracy to own the libs and win at any cost.
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BOSTON (AP) — A texting company run by one of President Donald Trump’s top campaign officials sent out thousands of targeted, anonymous text messages urging supporters to rally where votes were being counted in Philadelphia on Thursday, falsely claiming Democrats were trying to steal the presidential election.
The messages directed Trump fans to converge at a downtown intersection where hundreds of protesters from the opposing candidates’ camps faced off Thursday afternoon. Pennsylvania is a crucial battleground state where former Vice President Joe Biden's jumped ahead Friday and in a televised address later predicted a victory that would give him the presidency.
“This kind of message is playing with fire, and we are very lucky that it does not seem to have driven more conflict,” said John Scott-Railton, senior researcher at the University of Toronto’s online watchdog Citizen Lab. Scott-Railton helped track down the source.
The texts were sent using phone numbers leased to the text-messaging platform Opn Sesame, said two people familiar with the matter who spoke on condition they not be further identified. The company’s CEO is Gary Coby, the Trump campaign’s digital director. It provides text-messaging services to GOP clients including the Republican National Committee.
“ALERT: Radical Liberals & Dems are trying to steal this election from Trump! We need YOU!” the text said, directing recipients to “show your support” on a street corner near the Philadelphia Convention Center where votes were being counted and tensions were running high.
A top Trump campaign official, speaking on condition of anonymity, said the message did not come from the campaign. Because Opn Sesame is used by multiple customers, none of whom the company would identify, it could not be determined exactly who sent the message. Coby declined to comment.
Opn Sesame’s connection with the messages was first reported by The Washington Post.
Among those who received the rallying text was Chris Bray, who lives in rural Bucks County, about 25 miles outside Philadelphia.
A registered Independent who said he voted for Biden, Bray said he was very surprised to see the message pop up on his phone since he never signed up for anything related to the Trump campaign.
“I actually texted a number of other friends to say ‘hey, have you guys been getting robo-texts like this?’" Bray said Friday. “It was a call to action. It borders on that the rhetoric that we’ve been hearing for months now and that’s really dangerous if you get the right people together with a slight screw loose, we just don’t know what can happen.”
Later Thursday night, two men were arrested near the convention center for carrying loaded handguns without a permit, Police Commissioner Danielle Outlaw said. District Attorney Larry Krasner said there were no indications they were part of an extremist group. Their vehicle bore a window sticker for the right-wing conspiracy theory QAnon and an AR-style rifle and ammunition inside, Outlaw said.
The text messages were sent using 13 different phone numbers identified by RoboKiller, a mobile phone app that lets users block text and voice spam, said company vice president Giulia Porter. RoboKiller traced the numbers to Twilio, a gateway for bulk-messaging services.
After being notified, Twilio shut down the numbers, saying in a statement that the texts “were sent without consumer opt-out language, which is in direct contravention of our policies.” A company spokesman declined further comment.
About 80 million political text messages have been sent daily since September in the U.S. — many of those from the Trump camp echoing his baseless claims that Democrats were trying to steal the election, said RoboKiller’s Porter. They are highly targeted.
Political text-messaging campaigns can exploit the same flaws in telecommunications infrastructure that let robocallers hide their origin. They can spoof the numbers they call from and auto-blast thousands of texts with a single mouse click.
Opn Sesame has earned millions as a hub of text-messaging efforts for the Trump campaign and the Republican National Committee this election cycle, said a digital Republican strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of political retribution.
Facebook and Twitter cracked down on disinformation in the runup to the election, making text messaging and robocalls more attractive to those seeking to spread false and sometimes dangerous messages directly to voters via their phones.
“The extent to which these companies are relying upon loopholes in the law and a lack of regulation in this space has really staggered me,” said Sam Woolley, a misinformation and computational propaganda researcher at the University of Texas at Austin.
“They really want to circumvent the need to rely social media firms which is why they are using these private mechanisms," he added. "They are using tech that we don’t think of as particularly new, texting, calling, but using them in ways that are very Machiavellian.”
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Burke reported from San Francisco
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the National Opinion Research Center at the University of Chicago announced the results of an examination of all 170,000 undervotes and overvotes.
NORC found that with a full statewide hand recount, Gore would have won Florida under every possible vote standard. Depending on which standard was used, his margin of victory would have varied from 60 to 171 votes.
....
How about Ohio 2004? Not many talk about Ohio.
“The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count.(11)
...
“GovTech shall install and host (as set forth in Exhibit B. ) a mirror site of the Application to provide a fail-over solution in the event of failure of the primary installation on Election Day.” This “hot rollover configuration,” as the document explained, “can completely re-point the site if the primary site should fail by using some remote monitoring capabilities.” And that’s exactly what happened at 11:13pm when Democratic presidential candidate John Kerry was up three points over Republican incumbent George W. Bush. Ohio’s 2004 votes were outsourced to Smartech in Chattanooga, Tennessee, owned by right-wing evangelical publisher Jeff Averbeck, subcontracted by Connell. The vote count inexplicably flipped at 12:21am changing from Kerry winning by over 3 percentage points to Bush winning by over 3 percentage points. Overall, there was an unexplainable rapid 6.7 percent shift in the vote count. Smartech was also, curiously, the company that handled Karl Rove’s private email accounts from the White House. Millions of Rove's email files have since mysteriously disappeared
...
” According to Ohio recount rules, 3% of a county's votes are tallied by hand, and typically one or more whole precincts are selected and combined to get the 3% sample. The 3% must be randomly selected, and all hand counts are to be performed in public (with observers). After the hand count, the sample is fed into the tabulator. If there is no discrepancy, the remaining ballots can be counted by the machine. Otherwise, a hand recount must be done for the whole county.
The Cobb campaign claimed that the precincts were not randomly selected and the ballots were pre-sorted. They suggested that this indicates that precincts were selected that would match the machine count, in order to prevent a county-wide hand count, i.e. that it was "staged".[65] Two poll workers were convicted of preselecting ballots for the recounts.[66]...
...
It would be wrong of me to cite the eight convictions pertaining to manipulations and lies from trump campaign officials and indictment of thirty Russian military intel officers and entities from the 2016 election?
...
yeah, Dems had to suck a lot of crap the last 20 years and we took three bullets for “the good of the country” in close elections and FIVE SUPREME COURT JUSTICES are currently serving LIFETIME TERMS as a result of blatant election manipulations.
there is zero evidence so far of this happening now, and it’s nowhere near as close as 2000, so suck it.
https://apnews.com/article/f5f6a73b2af546ee97816bb35e82c18d
Voter fraud is a myth, don’t believe the bullshit.
https://www.brennancenter.org/issues/ensure-every-american-can-vote/vote-suppression/myth-voter-fraud
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/11/01/1011519/election-voter-fraud-claims-bad-science-polling/
Kind of on topic. I wonder how conspiracy theorists feel about Trumps 4 years in office. 9/11 hoax and other things were supposed to be proven in their favour since Trump was going to blow the lid off of all of them with huge reveals. How are they sleeping now that the time has come and went with absolutely nothing revealed. Trump part of the swamp too maybe?
We need Biden to pick up another 40,000 margin today and not lose too much on the same day provisionals in PA. The health of the nation needs a solid margin out of PA.
edit, to clarify, and for fairness, the elections are run by the state executive branch(governors ) and both PA and NV are democrats. Also Clark county NV is run by Dems.
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How many fucking scams do people have to have pushed on them before they realize the people pushing them are scam artists?
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