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F Me In The Brain

Biden

josevolution said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

did you all see how angry trump was afterward?

i am no lip reader but it looks like he called the moderator unprofessional. then he either pushed melania's hand away or she pulled it away. i can't really tell.

The difference between the Biden’s and the Covidiots is night & day, there’s no way Melania even gets in the same bed with the Cheeto! 

would have to be a large bed

(the largest!)

benjs

gimmesometruth27 said:

i also liked how when trump chided biden several times by asking "why did you not get it done when you had 8 years?" biden finally said "we had a republican congress. that is the answer."

so true.

biden could have also said, " i was not the president and i have not held public office the last 4 years" to some of trump's questions, but he didn't.

I think in the long-term, it's great that the Trump and Republican alliance is still strong while the trajectory has swiftly moved towards catastrophe, and I think when Biden can effectively make them out to be one entity, it'll serve well in down-ballot races. Nothing would make me happier than to see both stripped of their power.

Halifax2TheMax

F Me In The Brain said:

josevolution said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

did you all see how angry trump was afterward?

i am no lip reader but it looks like he called the moderator unprofessional. then he either pushed melania's hand away or she pulled it away. i can't really tell.

The difference between the Biden’s and the Covidiots is night & day, there’s no way Melania even gets in the same bed with the Cheeto! 

would have to be a large bed

(the largest!)

A very large bed, the biggest bed, the largest bed ever, supported by American made steel Ibeams.

gimmesometruth27

Biden

MayDay10 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

i thought biden did what he needed to do. spoke directly to the american people and then trump mocked him for it. true sociopath that one.

trump repeatedly tried to make it about hunter biden, but the moderator shut him down several times. he tried to get biden upset and bait him into a confrontation but biden took the high road. i so badly wanted biden to deflect from hunter by saying "lets discuss ivanka and eric and their conflicts and hatch act violations" but it may be better for the average voter that biden took the high road. the average voter does not know what the hatch act is, so this may have confused people.

i think trump on the whole did a better job of keeping his temper in check, but he did try to interrupt that one time and had his mic cut. trump did not do what he needed to do to attract voters. this is obvious by looking at the several post debate polls that are out there. cnn had those 11 undecided voters and they asked them who won afterward. 9 said biden, 0 said trump, and 2 called it a draw.

my favorite moment was when trump said he was as good or better for african americans than abe lincoln. biden sarcastically pointed at trump with his thumb and said "abraham lincoln here is the most racist president in modern history" and trump did not get the sarcasm. reminded me of something out of a bugs bunny cartoon.

Yeah.  I was wondering why Biden never broached that subject, but it is obvious it is by design.  Polling was clear that the public was disgusted with the shit slinging circus that was the other debate.  Biden only needed to stay the course and he did just that.  

i wonder if ivanka, don jr, and eric were there? they were in the front row at the other debate. i think it makes it harder to talk smack on people when they are sitting there staring at you. 

i think biden made the right choice to stay above the family BS, but i kind of wish he would have pointed out their violations of the law.

gimmesometruth27

Biden

so

what is going to happen in the next 10 days that is going to swing this thing to the republicans? none of the october surprises have changed anything.

i am worried we are going to have a terrorist attack. that is the only thing that could save trump.

Halifax2TheMax

gimmesometruth27 said:

did you all see how angry trump was afterward?

i am no lip reader but it looks like he called the moderator unprofessional. then he either pushed melania's hand away or she pulled it away. i can't really tell.

Seems Melania ripped it away.

Melania Was Caught Literally RIPPING Her Hand Away from Trump After the Debate

 

Yikes yikes yikes @ this video. Read More

static111

Biden

Just voted Joe and the democrat party all the way down the ticket in Texas.  

Jearlpam0925

Biden

gimmesometruth27 said:

so

what is going to happen in the next 10 days that is going to swing this thing to the republicans? none of the october surprises have changed anything.

i am worried we are going to have a terrorist attack. that is the only thing that could save trump.

Swinging in the Republicans' favor is after the votes come in they will cry it's rigged. 

More to the point - I'm curious to know what everyone here, everyone involved in the Biden/Trump threads, everyone that's been caught up in the hysteria of how bad this president is to the point of becoming unhinged themselves, are going to do if Trump loses? Do you just go back to burying your head in the sand, feeling like the headache is over, and go back to being blissfully ignorant? Because it's not a coincidence that Trump is president, we're at this point because of a myriad of reasons that are valid and legitimate. I just hope people stay engaged beyond this and know that voting for House seats, Senate seats, state legislature seats are just as - if not more - important. Because if old Joe becomes president, and then everyone lets off the gas pedal, then the R's are still gonna come out and vote and those Dem House & Senate elections will receive less votes. Then we're back to gridlock (I mean, if the Dems don't get a majority in all three branches there will be gridlock anyhow, but still...).

mfc2006

Biden

My observations:
Trump is a delusional asshole
Biden actually has policy ideas
Welker did a good job
Trump knows he’s toast

josevolution

static111 said:

Just voted Joe and the democrat party all the way down the ticket in Texas.  

👏👏👏

gimmesometruth27

Biden

Jearlpam0925 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

so

what is going to happen in the next 10 days that is going to swing this thing to the republicans? none of the october surprises have changed anything.

i am worried we are going to have a terrorist attack. that is the only thing that could save trump.

Swinging in the Republicans' favor is after the votes come in they will cry it's rigged. 

More to the point - I'm curious to know what everyone here, everyone involved in the Biden/Trump threads, everyone that's been caught up in the hysteria of how bad this president is to the point of becoming unhinged themselves, are going to do if Trump loses? Do you just go back to burying your head in the sand, feeling like the headache is over, and go back to being blissfully ignorant? Because it's not a coincidence that Trump is president, we're at this point because of a myriad of reasons that are valid and legitimate. I just hope people stay engaged beyond this and know that voting for House seats, Senate seats, state legislature seats are just as - if not more - important. Because if old Joe becomes president, and then everyone lets off the gas pedal, then the R's are still gonna come out and vote and those Dem House & Senate elections will receive less votes. Then we're back to gridlock (I mean, if the Dems don't get a majority in all three branches there will be gridlock anyhow, but still...).

you do not have to worry about people here "burying their heads in the sand" if biden wins. i have been posting here for 20 years and people here are always engaged and active. always. if anything, i actually first felt helpless after trump won and did not come around here because i felt too defeated to discuss politics. if biden wins everyone will be energized.

the country needs to heal after trump. the dems will help try to represent all americans instead of just the blue states. many people right now are voting for the first time, and they will continue to vote going forward.

mickeyrat

Biden

cincybearcat said:

Why is Pearl Jam releasing a concert the night of the last debate? Trying to make sure Joe doesn’t mess this up in front of an audience right before the election?

because its the anniversary of the first show?

gimmesometruth27

Biden

also, why did trump repeatedly say he is not a politician? he attacked biden for being one.

i'm sorry man. you are the fucking president. whether you like it or not, that makes you a politician.

PJPOWER

Jearlpam0925 said:

Hey, find all the shitheads near you:

https://donaldtrump.watch/

Why?  To avoid them?  To harass them?  To see if they match the sex offender map (that would actually be interesting data).  I checked my area and there were people that donated thousands...crazy.  It is interesting, but I hope people would not use this as a means to target or hurt people as I’m sure there is a map like this for Biden donors too.

static111

Biden

Jearlpam0925 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

so

what is going to happen in the next 10 days that is going to swing this thing to the republicans? none of the october surprises have changed anything.

i am worried we are going to have a terrorist attack. that is the only thing that could save trump.

Swinging in the Republicans' favor is after the votes come in they will cry it's rigged. 

More to the point - I'm curious to know what everyone here, everyone involved in the Biden/Trump threads, everyone that's been caught up in the hysteria of how bad this president is to the point of becoming unhinged themselves, are going to do if Trump loses? Do you just go back to burying your head in the sand, feeling like the headache is over, and go back to being blissfully ignorant? Because it's not a coincidence that Trump is president, we're at this point because of a myriad of reasons that are valid and legitimate. I just hope people stay engaged beyond this and know that voting for House seats, Senate seats, state legislature seats are just as - if not more - important. Because if old Joe becomes president, and then everyone lets off the gas pedal, then the R's are still gonna come out and vote and those Dem House & Senate elections will receive less votes. Then we're back to gridlock (I mean, if the Dems don't get a majority in all three branches there will be gridlock anyhow, but still...).

I’ve been voting and supporting third parties since before I could vote.  Also been out in the streets at community organizing events, doing what I can to advocate and try to educate coworkers related es etc.   I doubt that voting for a presidential candidate that is less progressive than I would like is going to get me to play ostrich at this point in my life.

Gern Blansten

Biden

Jearlpam0925 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

so

what is going to happen in the next 10 days that is going to swing this thing to the republicans? none of the october surprises have changed anything.

i am worried we are going to have a terrorist attack. that is the only thing that could save trump.

Swinging in the Republicans' favor is after the votes come in they will cry it's rigged. 

More to the point - I'm curious to know what everyone here, everyone involved in the Biden/Trump threads, everyone that's been caught up in the hysteria of how bad this president is to the point of becoming unhinged themselves, are going to do if Trump loses? Do you just go back to burying your head in the sand, feeling like the headache is over, and go back to being blissfully ignorant? Because it's not a coincidence that Trump is president, we're at this point because of a myriad of reasons that are valid and legitimate. I just hope people stay engaged beyond this and know that voting for House seats, Senate seats, state legislature seats are just as - if not more - important. Because if old Joe becomes president, and then everyone lets off the gas pedal, then the R's are still gonna come out and vote and those Dem House & Senate elections will receive less votes. Then we're back to gridlock (I mean, if the Dems don't get a majority in all three branches there will be gridlock anyhow, but still...).

I've never buried my head in the sand and felt blissfully ignorant.  I'm well aware of what the problems are in this country.  They mostly revolve around Fox News and right wing media brainwashing their followers.

Jearlpam0925

Biden

gimmesometruth27 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

so

what is going to happen in the next 10 days that is going to swing this thing to the republicans? none of the october surprises have changed anything.

i am worried we are going to have a terrorist attack. that is the only thing that could save trump.

Swinging in the Republicans' favor is after the votes come in they will cry it's rigged. 

More to the point - I'm curious to know what everyone here, everyone involved in the Biden/Trump threads, everyone that's been caught up in the hysteria of how bad this president is to the point of becoming unhinged themselves, are going to do if Trump loses? Do you just go back to burying your head in the sand, feeling like the headache is over, and go back to being blissfully ignorant? Because it's not a coincidence that Trump is president, we're at this point because of a myriad of reasons that are valid and legitimate. I just hope people stay engaged beyond this and know that voting for House seats, Senate seats, state legislature seats are just as - if not more - important. Because if old Joe becomes president, and then everyone lets off the gas pedal, then the R's are still gonna come out and vote and those Dem House & Senate elections will receive less votes. Then we're back to gridlock (I mean, if the Dems don't get a majority in all three branches there will be gridlock anyhow, but still...).

you do not have to worry about people here "burying their heads in the sand" if biden wins. i have been posting here for 20 years and people here are always engaged and active. always. if anything, i actually first felt helpless after trump won and did not come around here because i felt too defeated to discuss politics. if biden wins everyone will be energized.

the country needs to heal after trump. the dems will help try to represent all americans instead of just the blue states. many people right now are voting for the first time, and they will continue to vote going forward.

I don't know. I think there's something very mental to this whole thing - I get the vibe, on the whole, people are going to be excessively relieved and go back to thinking "both sides are to blame." Because the toothe paste ain't going back in the tube. Trump, as is said, isn't the cause but the symptom.

I also think there's a difference between being informed and wanting to debate on the internet, and being informed and getting literally involved on the local level (this isn't meant to be said as a sleight in the least). It's not a coincidence that turnout during non-Presidential elections are much lower. And it's a goddamn shame.

MayDay10

Biden

gimmesometruth27 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

so

what is going to happen in the next 10 days that is going to swing this thing to the republicans? none of the october surprises have changed anything.

i am worried we are going to have a terrorist attack. that is the only thing that could save trump.

Swinging in the Republicans' favor is after the votes come in they will cry it's rigged. 

More to the point - I'm curious to know what everyone here, everyone involved in the Biden/Trump threads, everyone that's been caught up in the hysteria of how bad this president is to the point of becoming unhinged themselves, are going to do if Trump loses? Do you just go back to burying your head in the sand, feeling like the headache is over, and go back to being blissfully ignorant? Because it's not a coincidence that Trump is president, we're at this point because of a myriad of reasons that are valid and legitimate. I just hope people stay engaged beyond this and know that voting for House seats, Senate seats, state legislature seats are just as - if not more - important. Because if old Joe becomes president, and then everyone lets off the gas pedal, then the R's are still gonna come out and vote and those Dem House & Senate elections will receive less votes. Then we're back to gridlock (I mean, if the Dems don't get a majority in all three branches there will be gridlock anyhow, but still...).

you do not have to worry about people here "burying their heads in the sand" if biden wins. i have been posting here for 20 years and people here are always engaged and active. always. if anything, i actually first felt helpless after trump won and did not come around here because i felt too defeated to discuss politics. if biden wins everyone will be energized.

the country needs to heal after trump. the dems will help try to represent all americans instead of just the blue states. many people right now are voting for the first time, and they will continue to vote going forward.

The problem is, human nature, especially in a society filled with smart phone, kardashians, and netflix.... to disengage in politics, especially when your 'side' is in power.  The opposition usually comes back in full force and we kid of get a yo-yo.  The yo-yo isnt entirely a bad thing, and one of the reasons this whole power grab by the Republicans is terrifying.  

I know me personally, I engage and vote in every election.  Actually registered Democrat a few years ago to give myself a chance to vote more (NY has closed primaries). 
I became involved in some grassroots stuff in my town but backed out due to it being a snake pit.... I actually think I will end up running for town office at some point though.
Most people here are engaged.  (Unfortunately), we are becoming the older population who votes.

gimmesometruth27

Biden

Jearlpam0925 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

Jearlpam0925 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

so

what is going to happen in the next 10 days that is going to swing this thing to the republicans? none of the october surprises have changed anything.

i am worried we are going to have a terrorist attack. that is the only thing that could save trump.

Swinging in the Republicans' favor is after the votes come in they will cry it's rigged. 

More to the point - I'm curious to know what everyone here, everyone involved in the Biden/Trump threads, everyone that's been caught up in the hysteria of how bad this president is to the point of becoming unhinged themselves, are going to do if Trump loses? Do you just go back to burying your head in the sand, feeling like the headache is over, and go back to being blissfully ignorant? Because it's not a coincidence that Trump is president, we're at this point because of a myriad of reasons that are valid and legitimate. I just hope people stay engaged beyond this and know that voting for House seats, Senate seats, state legislature seats are just as - if not more - important. Because if old Joe becomes president, and then everyone lets off the gas pedal, then the R's are still gonna come out and vote and those Dem House & Senate elections will receive less votes. Then we're back to gridlock (I mean, if the Dems don't get a majority in all three branches there will be gridlock anyhow, but still...).

you do not have to worry about people here "burying their heads in the sand" if biden wins. i have been posting here for 20 years and people here are always engaged and active. always. if anything, i actually first felt helpless after trump won and did not come around here because i felt too defeated to discuss politics. if biden wins everyone will be energized.

the country needs to heal after trump. the dems will help try to represent all americans instead of just the blue states. many people right now are voting for the first time, and they will continue to vote going forward.

I don't know. I think there's something very mental to this whole thing - I get the vibe, on the whole, people are going to be excessively relieved and go back to thinking "both sides are to blame." Because the toothe paste ain't going back in the tube. Trump, as is said, isn't the cause but the symptom.

I also think there's a difference between being informed and wanting to debate on the internet, and being informed and getting literally involved on the local level (this isn't meant to be said as a sleight in the least). It's not a coincidence that turnout during non-Presidential elections are much lower. And it's a goddamn shame.

turnout, especially democratic turnout, has always been low in off year elections. it was way up in 2018. i do not think it is going anywhere. especially when the trumpian politicians start running for seats in 2022. people know we need to stomp that shit out.

if you take things like elections for granted, you can't be surprised when trumpian candidates take over again. we all have to stay diligent and motivated.

gimmesometruth27

Biden

the dems have a much better "get out the vote" infrastructure than they did pre-obama. they know how to use it now.