Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,912
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Virtual debate announced and trump says he won't participate.  Honestly that is just perfect for Biden.  Could not have worked out better.  Let the crazy Trump who's sick be the image. I suppose there will be a third but let people keep voting. 
    Yeah.  Biden not having to debate and it being Trump’s fault is perfect.  The only way it could be better is if so many Americans didn’t view his hissy fits as strength.
    Well the number of people who do view it as a strength are shrinking in numbers by the day. And they were already in the minority.

    Advantage: America. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,047
    Biden
    brianlux said:
    Most commentators I've heard so far give the edge to Harris but also say, almost to a person, that this debate won't move the needle either way.   Pence did gain one big point when he flat out asked Harris if she and Biden were going to "pack the court".  That had me squirming a bit.  But, damn, what could she say?  Tell the truth?  Dodge the question?  Tough one.
    that was weird. she just sat there and smiled. 
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,349
    Biden
    I still don't understand why they don't respond with "at this point we have no intention of doing that and have not discussed it"
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • dignindignin Posts: 9,336
    She evaded one question. Pence evaded them all.
  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,045
    Biden
    I mean flies are attracted to carcasses.

    I think Biden needs to show up to the debate Zoom and then keep asking where Trump is - "I'll text him"; "Let me send him an email". Just record the whole thing then stream it/send it to socials. The narrative writes itself.
  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out
    The answer should have been that we should let the citizens decide regarding adding seats to the courts. If it's clear after every last vote is counted that the nation wishes to head in another direction (or just have more balance, in general; i.e. executive and senate flips), then the Biden administration will push for a special election on a proposition to add a couplefew more justices to the court to rebalance the scale. If the results of that special election are that Americans are fine with an overwhelmingly conservative SC, then they get what they asked for; if not, then the Biden administration will appoint a couplefew more justices -- and, again, Americans get what they asked for.

    I thought that she was heading in that direction when she said that they should wait for the election to see what the American people decide in 2020.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,047
    Biden
    I still don't understand why they don't respond with "at this point we have no intention of doing that and have not discussed it"
    i'm guessing at this point they know it won't lose them voters to say nothing, but it will win voters who are on the fence and worried about roe v wade. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,662
    Biden

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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,047
    Biden
    lol. flies sure love dung, don't they?
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South Philly Posts: 17,045
    Biden
    Haha, Biden campaign bought flywillvote.com and had it redirect to iwillvote.com
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,047
    Biden
    Haha, Biden campaign bought flywillvote.com and had it redirect to iwillvote.com
    hahaha
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,912
    Biden
    dankind said:
    The answer should have been that we should let the citizens decide regarding adding seats to the courts. If it's clear after every last vote is counted that the nation wishes to head in another direction (or just have more balance, in general; i.e. executive and senate flips), then the Biden administration will push for a special election on a proposition to add a couplefew more justices to the court to rebalance the scale. If the results of that special election are that Americans are fine with an overwhelmingly conservative SC, then they get what they asked for; if not, then the Biden administration will appoint a couplefew more justices -- and, again, Americans get what they asked for.

    I thought that she was heading in that direction when she said that they should wait for the election to see what the American people decide in 2020.
    A special election? How would that even work?
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,912
    Biden
    Hell of an ad right here....

    https://youtu.be/dkQaVngJB5E
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,649
    I still don't understand why they don't respond with "at this point we have no intention of doing that and have not discussed it"

    I wouldn’t say that because they may be forced to do it. A 6 to 3 court could allow republicans to legislate from the bench. If they win congress and presidency , it is their right to do it. ( it should only be done in conjunction with DC statehood).

    It is a very easy question to answer. I’d respond by saying “... the republicans have manipulated rules to stack the court currently. RBG has said she didn’t retire when Obama was president  because of the filibuster. When democrats were in the minority, Pence’s party conveniently took away the filibuster. When Obama had an empty seat to fill, the constitution says the senate provides advise and consent, which has aLways been interpreted to be an up or down vote, which forces all senators to go on record. That seat is now held by a republican nominee. These are unprecedented actions.”

    “So you see 2 of the current seats will likely be held by republican nominees as a result of extreme rule manipulation. Adding judges to the court is not a manipulation, it’s a right bestowed on congress by the constitution. If the next congress examines this constitutional power, it would be Joe Biden’s right to consider all constitutional alternatives on this manner.”

    Of course, its better if Biden answers this question.
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,047
    Biden
    There should be a law/provision that states the congress is required to take up and vote on any nomination by the president. garland may have gotten through. maybe not. but at least it would have gone to a vote. the majority leader should have singular final say. that's just absurd. 
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  • dankinddankind Posts: 20,839
    I'm sitting this one out
    dankind said:
    The answer should have been that we should let the citizens decide regarding adding seats to the courts. If it's clear after every last vote is counted that the nation wishes to head in another direction (or just have more balance, in general; i.e. executive and senate flips), then the Biden administration will push for a special election on a proposition to add a couplefew more justices to the court to rebalance the scale. If the results of that special election are that Americans are fine with an overwhelmingly conservative SC, then they get what they asked for; if not, then the Biden administration will appoint a couplefew more justices -- and, again, Americans get what they asked for.

    I thought that she was heading in that direction when she said that they should wait for the election to see what the American people decide in 2020.
    A special election? How would that even work?
    States have them all the time. They work just fine.
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  • Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,649
    There should be a law/provision that states the congress is required to take up and vote on any nomination by the president. garland may have gotten through. maybe not. but at least it would have gone to a vote. the majority leader should have singular final say. that's just absurd. 
    Ironically that law could be quickly stricken down by the Court, and I’m sure the GOP would ignore it or tie it up in the courts. Blocking new states and new justices would be more challenging to block

    The only constitutional provisions I am aware to combat how Rs manipulate laws and rules for extending their own power (we should add gerrymandering and voting restrictions as GOP manipulations) is DC statehood and adding justices. These are congressional powers and its a long road overdue for the Dems to play McConnell style hardball. If the filibuster is not applicable to one third of the Supreme Court it should be removed for areas that balance this abuse.  
  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,534
    edited October 2020
    I'm sitting this one out


    Myself, I am happy to live in a democracy (no, not Russia - Sweden) and believe that if the US is not a democracy, than rebuild yourself as one. Instead of whatever Mike Lee wants you to be.

    EDIT:



    DEMOCRACY LEADS TO COMMUNISM! WATCH OUT! 
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,349
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • I'm sitting this one out
    Don't understand Bidens play here.

    Why not just say he accepts to do it?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 23,303
    Biden
    what's good for the goose is good for the gander i suppose.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,349
    Biden
    Don't understand Bidens play here.

    Why not just say he accepts to do it?
    Because it prevents tRump from changing his mind and playing that game.  It solidifies that tRump backed out first.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • I'm sitting this one out
    Don't understand Bidens play here.

    Why not just say he accepts to do it?
    Because it prevents tRump from changing his mind and playing that game.  It solidifies that tRump backed out first.
    Sure. 

    But with how the narrative went after the last debate, maybe he should have hoped Trump would have changed his mind.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Biden
    what's good for the goose is good for the gander i suppose.
    What the hell is a gander anyway?
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,149
    Biden
    Don't understand Bidens play here.

    Why not just say he accepts to do it?
    Because it prevents tRump from changing his mind and playing that game.  It solidifies that tRump backed out first.

    I also think his old ass doesn't want a stage to himself for 90 minutes.  The whole story is till worse for Trump, though.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,047
    Biden
    what's good for the goose is good for the gander i suppose.
    What the hell is a gander anyway?
    a goose that had the old switcheroo pulled on it
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  • Biden
    what's good for the goose is good for the gander i suppose.
    What the hell is a gander anyway?
    a goose that had the old switcheroo pulled on it
    Nice...
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  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 20,349
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Don't understand Bidens play here.

    Why not just say he accepts to do it?
    Because it prevents tRump from changing his mind and playing that game.  It solidifies that tRump backed out first.

    I also think his old ass doesn't want a stage to himself for 90 minutes.  The whole story is till worse for Trump, though.
    He did it Tuesday night
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana
  • KatKat Posts: 4,872
    Biden
    I completely lost it with the pic of the fly with the mic. Thanks Mickey. :rofl:
    Falling down,...not staying down
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