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BidenLedbetterman10 said:Surprised to see Pennsylvania so close in that poll. Though the RCP average has Biden at +6.
I mean things are bound to tighten as we get closer. But just with PA, two months ago, their average had him at 4.5 and last month it was at 8. So to still be between 6-7%, I think that's pretty damn steady, all things considered. And it's the same story in the other swing states that will decide the election too.
A lot of the ones that came out today were conducted over the weekend, after the big momentous CHANGE OF TONE, that has now shockingly dissipated. Donald Trump is a child who can't act normal for more than a few days at a time.www.myspace.com0 -
Lets see what the polls look like when we've added another 75,000 to 125,000 dead due to Covid by November 1st. And still no coordinated national response.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Contrast this with Team Trump Treason walking out of the WH briefing room because he was being pressed by a CNN reporter on his repeating/spreading misinformation regarding covid. Can't wait to at least have an adult in the White House again. Nobody likes me, whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa. Yea, you're right for once, can't believe you uttered it in public.
The media meme that former vice president Joe Biden is a gaffe machine, combined with President Trump’s preposterous projection questioning Biden’s acuity, might lead one (even some on the Biden campaign) to conclude he should interact with reporters as infrequently as possible. That is generally good advice for a front-runner, which he surely is. However, after a speech Tuesday on racial inequality, Biden took questions and gave lengthy answers. It was in some ways a revelation.
First, Biden is good at this. He can give long, meaty answers without stumbling. He voices the right amount of disgust and anger at Trump for not pressing Russian President Vladimir Putin on bounties for U.S. troops in Afghanistan, for dividing the country on race, for creating scenes of violence for campaign ads and for botching the coronavirus response. Biden is nimble when it comes to pointing out Trump’s alienation from his own party. (Digging at Trump’s decision to abandon a convention in Jacksonville, Biden wisecracked: “Even the Republicans down there” figured out it would not work.)
Second, he is reasonably effective at avoiding the false-choice sort of question. Asked if he is running a campaign against Trump or for himself, he deftly answered: “I’m running because Trump is the president. And I think our democracy is at stake — for real. And what seems to be the case is many Americans, those who don’t like me and those that do, view me as the antithesis of Trump. And I believe that I am.” He also refuses to be put in a position that alienates his left-wing allies or chases away moderates and even conservatives. He explained that the measures he proposes are all consistent with capitalism but that there are things only government can do. He made explicit, however, that if his proposals get through, he will “go down as one of the most progressive presidents in American history.”
Third, he understands that rather than a revolution, many if not most voters want stability, functional government and a normal president. “This isn’t about law and order,” he said of Trump’s deployment of federal agents. “It’s about a strategy to revive a failing campaign.” He added that Trump was obviously trying “to scare the devil out of the American people.” As for Biden’s own qualifications, he cited foreign policy and the ability to work with others, rebutting the popular cynicism that you cannot work with the other side. “If we can’t unite America, we’re gone. We’re dead. Democracy is dead,” he said. “[Democracy] requires consensus.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/07/29/three-things-we-learned-bidens-press-conference/?hpid=hp_save-opinions-float-right-4-0_opinion-card-b-right:homepage/story-ansThere was a reason Trump was so afraid to run against Biden that he turned to Ukraine and China for help. Biden is an elusive foe: He’s a staunch defender of public order (“we do need to hold those who violate the law accountable”) who can empathize with Black Lives Matter; a progressive who does not scare off swing states and centrist voters; and someone who by providing such a vivid contrast with the incumbent can remind us we dearly need a decent, trustworthy and informed president.
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BidenLedbetterman10 said:tbergs said:Ledbetterman10 said:tbergs said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:Ledbetterman10 said:HughFreakingDillon said:josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!
If Trump wins, yes people will protest. But I expect that only because of the rhetoric he's set with his whole mail in voter fraud and illegals voting bullshit. No way he wins the popular vote and it will be an even bigger loss in that regard this time so if he somehow claims victory and it's not decisively clear, people aren't just going to accept it. I don't see much happening if he loses. His minions won't know what to do.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/us/portland-protests-fact-check.htmlAnd the peaceful protesters are part of the issue. The “handful” of rioters hang out among them, wait for night to fall, and then they start their shit. Until those protests stop, the riots will continue.And what are the peaceful protesters even protesting at this point? Still police brutality? Well when does that end? Derek Chauvin’s conviction? Biden’s election? Or does God himself have to come down and declare that black lives matter and systemic racism is eradicated?Scio me nihil scire
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The Juggler said:Ledbetterman10 said:Surprised to see Pennsylvania so close in that poll. Though the RCP average has Biden at +6.
I mean things are bound to tighten as we get closer. But just with PA, two months ago, their average had him at 4.5 and last month it was at 8. So to still be between 6-7%, I think that's pretty damn steady, all things considered. And it's the same story in the other swing states that will decide the election too.
A lot of the ones that came out today were conducted over the weekend, after the big momentous CHANGE OF TONE, that has now shockingly dissipated. Donald Trump is a child who can't act normal for more than a few days at a time.I was surprised by that CNBC poll. That was doesn’t strike me as a lean right poll and PA/MI are supposed to be 2 of Bidens bedrock “flip back” states. My concern is the law and order nonsense with the federal officers is having an impact specifically in these states. Trump is a talented politician and I wouldn’t be surprised if this specific course of action was not researched in detail beforehand.
In 2016 Clinton was up in these states by 2 or 3 points and this is eerily close to that.
want to maybe get a little concerned, check out Obama’s aggregate polling in these states in both of his elections. Way ahead of Biden if the CNBC polls are too be believed.0 -
BidenLerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:Ledbetterman10 said:Surprised to see Pennsylvania so close in that poll. Though the RCP average has Biden at +6.
I mean things are bound to tighten as we get closer. But just with PA, two months ago, their average had him at 4.5 and last month it was at 8. So to still be between 6-7%, I think that's pretty damn steady, all things considered. And it's the same story in the other swing states that will decide the election too.
A lot of the ones that came out today were conducted over the weekend, after the big momentous CHANGE OF TONE, that has now shockingly dissipated. Donald Trump is a child who can't act normal for more than a few days at a time.I was surprised by that CNBC poll. That was doesn’t strike me as a lean right poll and PA/MI are supposed to be 2 of Bidens bedrock “flip back” states. My concern is the law and order nonsense with the federal officers is having an impact specifically in these states. Trump is a talented politician and I wouldn’t be surprised if this specific course of action was not researched in detail beforehand.
In 2016 Clinton was up in these states by 2 or 3 points and this is eerily close to that.
want to maybe get a little concerned, check out Obama’s aggregate polling in these states in both of his elections. Way ahead of Biden if the CNBC polls are too be believed.
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BidenThe Juggler said:Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:Ledbetterman10 said:Surprised to see Pennsylvania so close in that poll. Though the RCP average has Biden at +6.
I mean things are bound to tighten as we get closer. But just with PA, two months ago, their average had him at 4.5 and last month it was at 8. So to still be between 6-7%, I think that's pretty damn steady, all things considered. And it's the same story in the other swing states that will decide the election too.
A lot of the ones that came out today were conducted over the weekend, after the big momentous CHANGE OF TONE, that has now shockingly dissipated. Donald Trump is a child who can't act normal for more than a few days at a time.I was surprised by that CNBC poll. That was doesn’t strike me as a lean right poll and PA/MI are supposed to be 2 of Bidens bedrock “flip back” states. My concern is the law and order nonsense with the federal officers is having an impact specifically in these states. Trump is a talented politician and I wouldn’t be surprised if this specific course of action was not researched in detail beforehand.
In 2016 Clinton was up in these states by 2 or 3 points and this is eerily close to that.
want to maybe get a little concerned, check out Obama’s aggregate polling in these states in both of his elections. Way ahead of Biden if the CNBC polls are too be believed.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
BidenPJNB said:
Not surprised at all.www.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:PJNB said:
Not surprised at all.0 -
Bidenthe major courier companies should step the fuck up and say "free pickup and deliveries of all mail in votes for the 2020 election".Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0
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BidenTrump campaign appears to be pulling out of Michigan too.www.myspace.com0
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BidenProviding cover to hypocrites who have voted by mail for years and testing the waters on an election "delay."___________________________________________
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BidenPJNB said:The Juggler said:PJNB said:
Not surprised at all.
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BidenThe Juggler said:Trump campaign appears to be pulling out of Michigan too.
They are giving up and trying to avoid being "Goldwatered"Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
BidenAlthough I guess it's still early....Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt20 -
BidenOnWis97 said:PJNB said:The Juggler said:PJNB said:
Not surprised at all.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
BidenHughFreakingDillon said:OnWis97 said:PJNB said:The Juggler said:PJNB said:
Not surprised at all.www.myspace.com0 -
BidenSo a few weeks ago I said that everyone should make sure to show up and cast votes in person. Got a lot of negative feedback. Anyone change their mind and think maybe voting in person might be less risky than possibly not getting your mail in ballot counted and have 4 more years of great?Scio me nihil scire
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