I read an interesting reminder that the Kav hearing was a month before the mid terms. Either it didn't stop blue or it helped. We sort of assume this is good for Trump. Maybe not, on net.
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seen my first biden campaign commercial today. was good. part attack, part answering attacks , part agenda. well done.
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The only way Trump would hesitate on nominating and approving a new justice is if he lost ground in the battleground states he's hoping to win. Places like Michigan, Minnesota, Wisconsin and Pennsylvania need to send the message that he loses votes by doing this, but I don't think there's anyway to make that type of data materialize. Even though the Reuters poll made it clear where most people stand, they probably still would vote for him.
I drove by the county library by my house that is an early voting location before the noon hour today. The line was wrapped half way around the building. Guessing at least a 2 hour await for the last person in that line.
I drove by the county library by my house that is an early voting location before the noon hour today. The line was wrapped half way around the building. Guessing at least a 2 hour await for the last person in that line.
More evidence of how few people are undecided. I don't know that the SCOTUS issue moves the needle much. It didn't in 18.
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I think it helped the Republicans in '18 but not in the swing states that are in play this year. Like didn't it cost McCaskill her seat over it?
This year, I can see it motivating dems more since it's the second time in four years they've been fucked over.
I drove by the county library by my house that is an early voting location before the noon hour today. The line was wrapped half way around the building. Guessing at least a 2 hour await for the last person in that line.
More evidence of how few people are undecided. I don't know that the SCOTUS issue moves the needle much. It didn't in 18.
There was an empty seat in 2016 and the “progressive wing” of the party was not enthusiastic about voting then and there was an undervote in many states . It appears to clearly have not motivated liberals as much as republicans, and now it’s too late.
And the sad truth is that’s when the damage was done. Trump gets RBGs seat filled as a result of all the 2016 Hilary apathy unless the Dems can pull off an unlikely Hail Mary and come up a way to clog up the senate for over 3 months. If not, the only move for them is to pack the court, which takes guts and ya know where the Dems are in that category.
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2nd Biden commercial. addressing the violence and rioting. straight up calls trump weak.
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2nd Biden commercial. addressing the violence and rioting. straight up calls trump weak.
showed a differentiation between the two of them.
I like the commercials I've seen. He goes after Trump but isn't only saying "and I'm not him." Of course, he sounds super old but as long as he can keep being out there and it doesn't get worse, I don't think it'll hurt him.
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2nd Biden commercial. addressing the violence and rioting. straight up calls trump weak.
showed a differentiation between the two of them.
I like the commercials I've seen. He goes after Trump but isn't only saying "and I'm not him." Of course, he sounds super old but as long as he can keep being out there and it doesn't get worse, I don't think it'll hurt him.
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2nd Biden commercial. addressing the violence and rioting. straight up calls trump weak.
showed a differentiation between the two of them.
I like the commercials I've seen. He goes after Trump but isn't only saying "and I'm not him." Of course, he sounds super old but as long as he can keep being out there and it doesn't get worse, I don't think it'll hurt him.
have now seen a 3rd around the pandemic
The one played here in Virginia is the one where he talks about his wife’s death and links it to healthcare.
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Yep we've been getting bombarded by those in PA for a few weeks now.
We may get 2008 level turnout among young voters. That’s bad for Trump.
The poll finds that among likely voters in that 18-to-29 demographic, Biden is leading President Trump by 60 percent to 27 percent among likely voters. That’s significantly better than the 49 percent that Hillary Clinton got in this poll in 2016.
But that’s not all. The poll also finds that an astonishing 63 percent of respondents say they will “definitely be voting,” compared to 47 percent in the 2016 version of this poll.
That matches 2008 levels. The 2008 version of this poll found that among a somewhat smaller segment of young voters, approximately the same percentage said they’d definitely be voting.
We may get 2008 level turnout among young voters. That’s bad for Trump.
The poll finds that among likely voters in that 18-to-29 demographic, Biden is leading President Trump by 60 percent to 27 percent among likely voters. That’s significantly better than the 49 percent that Hillary Clinton got in this poll in 2016.
But that’s not all. The poll also finds that an astonishing 63 percent of respondents say they will “definitely be voting,” compared to 47 percent in the 2016 version of this poll.
That matches 2008 levels. The 2008 version of this poll found that among a somewhat smaller segment of young voters, approximately the same percentage said they’d definitely be voting.
I've seen some encouraging signs of this with my 18-20 year old kids. We know some kids whose parents are fairly rabid GOP yet cannot wait to vote for Biden. Probably more of an anti-tRUmp vote but I'll take it.
I added two Biden voters to the mix in my house...but we are in Indiana so it likely won't matter.
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i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
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i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
Yeah and RBG might be a spark
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i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
Yeah and RBG might be a spark
Yes, Trump sees this as a lifeline, but it might create more of a wave.
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i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last.
i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last.
Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population.
i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last.
Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population.
lol, i see what you are referring to. I thought you were saying each generation had more babies born than previous generations, which isn't true. that's what gimme was saying. there were more millenials born (72.12 million) than baby boomers (69.56 million)
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i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last.
Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population.
lol, i see what you are referring to. I thought you were saying each generation had more babies born than previous generations, which isn't true. that's what gimme was saying. there were more millenials born (72.12 million) than baby boomers (69.56 million)
That's a smaller gap than I would have guessed actually. That's about a 4% increase, I would have guessed it was closer to about 8-10%. But people are starting to have families later in life now and as a result fewer kids too, so maybe we'll see the population stabilize.
i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last.
Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population.
lol, i see what you are referring to. I thought you were saying each generation had more babies born than previous generations, which isn't true. that's what gimme was saying. there were more millenials born (72.12 million) than baby boomers (69.56 million)
That's a smaller gap than I would have guessed actually. That's about a 4% increase, I would have guessed it was closer to about 10%. But people are starting to have families later in life now and as a result fewer kids too, so maybe we'll see the population stabilize.
Don't forget about immigration when assessing population growth.
We may get 2008 level turnout among young voters. That’s bad for Trump.
The poll finds that among likely voters in that 18-to-29 demographic, Biden is leading President Trump by 60 percent to 27 percent among likely voters. That’s significantly better than the 49 percent that Hillary Clinton got in this poll in 2016.
But that’s not all. The poll also finds that an astonishing 63 percent of respondents say they will “definitely be voting,” compared to 47 percent in the 2016 version of this poll.
That matches 2008 levels. The 2008 version of this poll found that among a somewhat smaller segment of young voters, approximately the same percentage said they’d definitely be voting.
I've seen some encouraging signs of this with my 18-20 year old kids. We know some kids whose parents are fairly rabid GOP yet cannot wait to vote for Biden. Probably more of an anti-tRUmp vote but I'll take it.
I added two Biden voters to the mix in my house...but we are in Indiana so it likely won't matter.
I wonder - with the pandemic and more college kids at home...if they are registered to vote at their home location, this likely means they are more likely to vote. If they were registered in the college location (different state, but had established residency) I wonder if they vote?
Seems to me kids being home from college means more college kids will vote.
i saw yesterday that there are more millennials of voting age than there are boomers. this could be very, very bad for trump if they get motivated enough to turn out to vote.
Every generation is larger than the previous one, so of course there are more millennials than boomers, not to mention the Boomers have started dying off a while ago. its probably a 1:2 ratio at this point.
How is that even remotely true? every generation would have to be having more kids than the last.
Isnt that what happens? The US population grows by about 1% a year or something like that. There's no denying the US population is steadily increasing, right? we're at about 330 million, 10 or 15 years ago it was a little over 300 million. The younger generation is the one increasing, Boomers aren't just coming out of nowhere to increase the population.
lol, i see what you are referring to. I thought you were saying each generation had more babies born than previous generations, which isn't true. that's what gimme was saying. there were more millenials born (72.12 million) than baby boomers (69.56 million)
That's a smaller gap than I would have guessed actually. That's about a 4% increase, I would have guessed it was closer to about 10%. But people are starting to have families later in life now and as a result fewer kids too, so maybe we'll see the population stabilize.
Don't forget about immigration when assessing population growth.
Yeah, but the US hit 250 million in the early 90s, 300 million mid 2000s, and currently 330 million. that's an increase of 80 million in less than 30 years. If half that was immigration that would still leave a 40 million increase due to births over the same time period. And that's an increase. For millennials to only be about 4% (or less than 3 million) higher than boomers, that means most of that increase was due to immigration and not our own population growth. Which I wouldn't have guessed, maybe would have put it at about equal.
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This year, I can see it motivating dems more since it's the second time in four years they've been fucked over.
And the sad truth is that’s when the damage was done. Trump gets RBGs seat filled as a result of all the 2016 Hilary apathy unless the Dems can pull off an unlikely Hail Mary and come up a way to clog up the senate for over 3 months. If not, the only move for them is to pack the court, which takes guts and ya know where the Dems are in that category.
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I like the commercials I've seen. He goes after Trump but isn't only saying "and I'm not him." Of course, he sounds super old but as long as he can keep being out there and it doesn't get worse, I don't think it'll hurt him.
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have now seen a 3rd around the pandemic
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We may get 2008 level turnout among young voters. That’s bad for Trump.
The poll finds that among likely voters in that 18-to-29 demographic, Biden is leading President Trump by 60 percent to 27 percent among likely voters. That’s significantly better than the 49 percent that Hillary Clinton got in this poll in 2016.
But that’s not all. The poll also finds that an astonishing 63 percent of respondents say they will “definitely be voting,” compared to 47 percent in the 2016 version of this poll.
That matches 2008 levels. The 2008 version of this poll found that among a somewhat smaller segment of young voters, approximately the same percentage said they’d definitely be voting.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/09/21/we-may-get-2008-level-turnout-among-young-voters-thats-bad-trump/
I added two Biden voters to the mix in my house...but we are in Indiana so it likely won't matter.
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But people are starting to have families later in life now and as a result fewer kids too, so maybe we'll see the population stabilize.
Seems to me kids being home from college means more college kids will vote.