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Is that the one who voted for Jill Stein? If so, she can have that shit sandwich and nothing else. Fuck her .Halifax2TheMax said:How does Bernie’s former campaign spokeswoman claiming a vote for Sleepy Woke Joe is like eating a shit sandwich give dems any reason to reach out to “the far left,” particularly if the far left is mostly made up of unrepentant and lost Bernie supporters? I guess they prefer the shitshow, shiton, and shit holiday meals to a shit sandwich? Fuck them, they’re gone and ain’t ever going to support a dem candidate because they were never dems to begin with. Indies are where it’s at, not the “far left,” particularly that “far left.”www.myspace.com0 -
Regarding polls and indies. Indies are where it’s at.
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Halifax2TheMax said:Regarding polls and indies. Indies are where it’s at.
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Regarding legalization of pot at the federal level, it would be way smarter to gain seats in the house, take the senate and let the reps from states that have legalized it, craft a bill that allows states to opt in and remove some of the fed barriers, that Sleepy Woke Joe can sign in his first year. Making it a platform plank allows dems to be painted as “radical left gateway drug promoters.” Having reps from CA, WA, OR, CO, RI, MA and any other state that has legalized it gives it a level of legitimacy that a platform plank can’t and won’t do because it’s not specific legislation. The devil is in the details. Then the dem congress could throw a rave to celebrate with their two turntables and a microphone.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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excellent strategy. i dig it.Halifax2TheMax said:Regarding legalization of pot at the federal level, it would be way smarter to gain seats in the house, take the senate and let the reps from states that have legalized it, craft a bill that allows states to opt in and remove some of the fed barriers, that Sleepy Woke Joe can sign in his first year. Making it a platform plank allows dems to be painted as “radical left gateway drug promoters.” Having reps from CA, WA, OR, CO, RI, MA and any other state that has legalized it gives it a level of legitimacy that a platform plank can’t and won’t do because it’s not specific legislation. The devil is in the details. Then the dem congress could throw a rave to celebrate with their two turntables and a microphone.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
BidenHalifax2TheMax said:How does Bernie’s former campaign spokeswoman claiming a vote for Sleepy Woke Joe is like eating a shit sandwich give dems any reason to reach out to “the far left,” particularly if the far left is mostly made up of unrepentant and lost Bernie supporters? I guess they prefer the shitshow, shiton, and shit holiday meals to a shit sandwich? Fuck them, they’re gone and ain’t ever going to support a dem candidate because they were never dems to begin with. Indies are where it’s at, not the “far left,” particularly that “far left.”
I believe the thinking here is that if it all gets burned to the ground maybe then there is a chance to build something better and more inclusive. I don’t fault anyone for that. Not my direct course of action, but I see the appeal.The Juggler said:
Is that the one who voted for Jill Stein? If so, she can have that shit sandwich and nothing else. Fuck her .Halifax2TheMax said:How does Bernie’s former campaign spokeswoman claiming a vote for Sleepy Woke Joe is like eating a shit sandwich give dems any reason to reach out to “the far left,” particularly if the far left is mostly made up of unrepentant and lost Bernie supporters? I guess they prefer the shitshow, shiton, and shit holiday meals to a shit sandwich? Fuck them, they’re gone and ain’t ever going to support a dem candidate because they were never dems to begin with. Indies are where it’s at, not the “far left,” particularly that “far left.”Scio me nihil scire
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Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Because dems aren’t “inclusive?” Or “inclusive” enough? So burn it to the ground? Now that’s a winning strategy.static111 said:Halifax2TheMax said:How does Bernie’s former campaign spokeswoman claiming a vote for Sleepy Woke Joe is like eating a shit sandwich give dems any reason to reach out to “the far left,” particularly if the far left is mostly made up of unrepentant and lost Bernie supporters? I guess they prefer the shitshow, shiton, and shit holiday meals to a shit sandwich? Fuck them, they’re gone and ain’t ever going to support a dem candidate because they were never dems to begin with. Indies are where it’s at, not the “far left,” particularly that “far left.”
I believe the thinking here is that if it all gets burned to the ground maybe then there is a chance to build something better and more inclusive. I don’t fault anyone for that. Not my direct course of action, but I see the appeal.The Juggler said:
Is that the one who voted for Jill Stein? If so, she can have that shit sandwich and nothing else. Fuck her .Halifax2TheMax said:How does Bernie’s former campaign spokeswoman claiming a vote for Sleepy Woke Joe is like eating a shit sandwich give dems any reason to reach out to “the far left,” particularly if the far left is mostly made up of unrepentant and lost Bernie supporters? I guess they prefer the shitshow, shiton, and shit holiday meals to a shit sandwich? Fuck them, they’re gone and ain’t ever going to support a dem candidate because they were never dems to begin with. Indies are where it’s at, not the “far left,” particularly that “far left.”09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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Today they started to take protesters off the street here in NY , Portland tactics are starting to spread out! Sorry one protester from the video I saw..HughFreakingDillon said:
you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/07/28/conservative-armed-militias-protests-coronavirus/josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!
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What if Biden loses? The country will be burnt to the ground.HughFreakingDillon said:
you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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Some people would prefer chaos to incremental change in hopes they can make a big shift all at onceHalifax2TheMax said:
Because dems aren’t “inclusive?” Or “inclusive” enough? So burn it to the ground? Now that’s a winning strategy.static111 said:Halifax2TheMax said:How does Bernie’s former campaign spokeswoman claiming a vote for Sleepy Woke Joe is like eating a shit sandwich give dems any reason to reach out to “the far left,” particularly if the far left is mostly made up of unrepentant and lost Bernie supporters? I guess they prefer the shitshow, shiton, and shit holiday meals to a shit sandwich? Fuck them, they’re gone and ain’t ever going to support a dem candidate because they were never dems to begin with. Indies are where it’s at, not the “far left,” particularly that “far left.”
I believe the thinking here is that if it all gets burned to the ground maybe then there is a chance to build something better and more inclusive. I don’t fault anyone for that. Not my direct course of action, but I see the appeal.The Juggler said:
Is that the one who voted for Jill Stein? If so, she can have that shit sandwich and nothing else. Fuck her .Halifax2TheMax said:How does Bernie’s former campaign spokeswoman claiming a vote for Sleepy Woke Joe is like eating a shit sandwich give dems any reason to reach out to “the far left,” particularly if the far left is mostly made up of unrepentant and lost Bernie supporters? I guess they prefer the shitshow, shiton, and shit holiday meals to a shit sandwich? Fuck them, they’re gone and ain’t ever going to support a dem candidate because they were never dems to begin with. Indies are where it’s at, not the “far left,” particularly that “far left.”Scio me nihil scire
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by whom?Ledbetterman10 said:
What if Biden loses? The country will be burnt to the ground.HughFreakingDillon said:
you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Biden
The people in the streets right now, like in Portland at night. Every city will be like that. If Trump is reelected, it’s going to be complete madness in the streets for god knows how long. Then he’ll retaliate with military force or some shit and it’ll all be awful.HughFreakingDillon said:
by whom?Ledbetterman10 said:
What if Biden loses? The country will be burnt to the ground.HughFreakingDillon said:
you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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i don't see that happening. most people protest in response to an actual incident that they perceive to be against a certain group. liberals may protest en masse like they did in the "pink hat" days, but no one's burning it to the ground. this isn't 400 years of oppression/genocide/supremacy. this is 4 years of criminal activity and douchebaggery in politics. quite different.Ledbetterman10 said:
The people in the streets right now, like in Portland at night. Every city will be like that. If Trump is reelected, it’s going to be complete madness in the streets for god knows how long. Then he’ll retaliate with military force or some shit and it’ll all be awful.HughFreakingDillon said:
by whom?Ledbetterman10 said:
What if Biden loses? The country will be burnt to the ground.HughFreakingDillon said:
you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Biden
Did we lose Portland? People are outside one building breaching a fence and engaging with federal police. There's been trash fires and an attempted burning of a statue. What is there, a few hundred people out there? Hardly chaos. The violence (limited from what I've read) and property damage aren't ok, but it's not some war zone.Ledbetterman10 said:
The people in the streets right now, like in Portland at night. Every city will be like that. If Trump is reelected, it’s going to be complete madness in the streets for god knows how long. Then he’ll retaliate with military force or some shit and it’ll all be awful.HughFreakingDillon said:
by whom?Ledbetterman10 said:
What if Biden loses? The country will be burnt to the ground.HughFreakingDillon said:
you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!
If Trump wins, yes people will protest. But I expect that only because of the rhetoric he's set with his whole mail in voter fraud and illegals voting bullshit. No way he wins the popular vote and it will be an even bigger loss in that regard this time so if he somehow claims victory and it's not decisively clear, people aren't just going to accept it. I don't see much happening if he loses. His minions won't know what to do.
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I didn’t say it was a “war zone” or that it’s “fallen.” Just losers with no lives setting things on fire and trashing shit for almost two months.tbergs said:
Did we lose Portland? People are outside one building breaching a fence and engaging with federal police. There's been trash fires and an attempted burning of a statue. What is there, a few hundred people out there? Hardly chaos. The violence (limited from what I've read) and property damage aren't ok, but it's not some war zone.Ledbetterman10 said:
The people in the streets right now, like in Portland at night. Every city will be like that. If Trump is reelected, it’s going to be complete madness in the streets for god knows how long. Then he’ll retaliate with military force or some shit and it’ll all be awful.HughFreakingDillon said:
by whom?Ledbetterman10 said:
What if Biden loses? The country will be burnt to the ground.HughFreakingDillon said:
you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!
If Trump wins, yes people will protest. But I expect that only because of the rhetoric he's set with his whole mail in voter fraud and illegals voting bullshit. No way he wins the popular vote and it will be an even bigger loss in that regard this time so if he somehow claims victory and it's not decisively clear, people aren't just going to accept it. I don't see much happening if he loses. His minions won't know what to do.
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No, just that it will be madness in the streets. It isn't madness right now. There is an isolated area, which I don't know that I'd classify as madness. The violence can mainly be narrowed down to a handful of idiot opportunists not there for actual protest and some over aggressive federal and local law enforcement. What it comes down to, is that LE need to focus their attention on the idiots. Whether that's through plain clothes intervention among the protesters so they can better identify the antagonizers or more thorough investigations of the incidents. LE shouldn't have to put up with people throwing fire crackers and hard objects at them and peaceful protesters shouldn't be tear gassed and pepper balled.Ledbetterman10 said:
I didn’t say it was a “war zone” or that it’s “fallen.” Just losers with no lives setting things on fire and trashing shit for almost two months.tbergs said:
Did we lose Portland? People are outside one building breaching a fence and engaging with federal police. There's been trash fires and an attempted burning of a statue. What is there, a few hundred people out there? Hardly chaos. The violence (limited from what I've read) and property damage aren't ok, but it's not some war zone.Ledbetterman10 said:
The people in the streets right now, like in Portland at night. Every city will be like that. If Trump is reelected, it’s going to be complete madness in the streets for god knows how long. Then he’ll retaliate with military force or some shit and it’ll all be awful.HughFreakingDillon said:
by whom?Ledbetterman10 said:
What if Biden loses? The country will be burnt to the ground.HughFreakingDillon said:
you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!
If Trump wins, yes people will protest. But I expect that only because of the rhetoric he's set with his whole mail in voter fraud and illegals voting bullshit. No way he wins the popular vote and it will be an even bigger loss in that regard this time so if he somehow claims victory and it's not decisively clear, people aren't just going to accept it. I don't see much happening if he loses. His minions won't know what to do.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/us/portland-protests-fact-check.html
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Biden
If cops having fire crackers and hard objects thrown at them isn’t madness, then we just differ on our definitions of madness.tbergs said:
No, just that it will be madness in the streets. It isn't madness right now. There is an isolated area, which I don't know that I'd classify as madness. The violence can mainly be narrowed down to a handful of idiot opportunists not there for actual protest and some over aggressive federal and local law enforcement. What it comes down to, is that LE need to focus their attention on the idiots. Whether that's through plain clothes intervention among the protesters so they can better identify the antagonizers or more thorough investigations of the incidents. LE shouldn't have to put up with people throwing fire crackers and hard objects at them and peaceful protesters shouldn't be tear gassed and pepper balled.Ledbetterman10 said:
I didn’t say it was a “war zone” or that it’s “fallen.” Just losers with no lives setting things on fire and trashing shit for almost two months.tbergs said:
Did we lose Portland? People are outside one building breaching a fence and engaging with federal police. There's been trash fires and an attempted burning of a statue. What is there, a few hundred people out there? Hardly chaos. The violence (limited from what I've read) and property damage aren't ok, but it's not some war zone.Ledbetterman10 said:
The people in the streets right now, like in Portland at night. Every city will be like that. If Trump is reelected, it’s going to be complete madness in the streets for god knows how long. Then he’ll retaliate with military force or some shit and it’ll all be awful.HughFreakingDillon said:
by whom?Ledbetterman10 said:
What if Biden loses? The country will be burnt to the ground.HughFreakingDillon said:
you know, i usually try not to let the doom and gloom get into my head, but honestly, i wouldn't put anything past this idiot and his dipshit supporters if he loses, that he'll do something where he won't accept it, and will start having barr arrest biden or something ridiculously illegal.josevolution said:Folks just be ready for a full on violent ending to this year it’s gonna get ugly!
If Trump wins, yes people will protest. But I expect that only because of the rhetoric he's set with his whole mail in voter fraud and illegals voting bullshit. No way he wins the popular vote and it will be an even bigger loss in that regard this time so if he somehow claims victory and it's not decisively clear, people aren't just going to accept it. I don't see much happening if he loses. His minions won't know what to do.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/07/28/us/portland-protests-fact-check.htmlAnd the peaceful protesters are part of the issue. The “handful” of rioters hang out among them, wait for night to fall, and then they start their shit. Until those protests stop, the riots will continue.And what are the peaceful protesters even protesting at this point? Still police brutality? Well when does that end? Derek Chauvin’s conviction? Biden’s election? Or does God himself have to come down and declare that black lives matter and systemic racism is eradicated?2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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