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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,683
    Biden
    it will all come down to how he does in the debates. no republicans watch a democrat town hall. that's nothing. 
    I'm more asking how crisp he was. 
  • Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    it will all come down to how he does in the debates. no republicans watch a democrat town hall. that's nothing. 
    I'm more asking how crisp he was. 
    no clue. just reading about it.  
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,658
    Biden
    it will all come down to how he does in the debates. no republicans watch a democrat town hall. that's nothing. 

    somedo for the potential gotcha memes out of context
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    mickeyrat said:
    it will all come down to how he does in the debates. no republicans watch a democrat town hall. that's nothing. 

    somedo for the potential gotcha memes out of context
    huh?
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 38,658
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    it will all come down to how he does in the debates. no republicans watch a democrat town hall. that's nothing. 

    somedo for the potential gotcha memes out of context
    huh?

    looking for the clips that can gif or meme out of context to question his competency, cognitive ability etc.
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    mickeyrat said:
    it will all come down to how he does in the debates. no republicans watch a democrat town hall. that's nothing. 

    somedo for the potential gotcha memes out of context
    huh?

    looking for the clips that can gif or meme out of context to question his competency, cognitive ability etc.
    SWJBB is looking sharp for his age and in a debate or town hall with Team Trump Treason, he’s going to be the obvious, honest, policy wonk that can get it done, presidential, one might say, with quotes and blue collar admonishment. Watch.

    All Team Trump Treason has is spewage of hate and empty promises, like so much winning.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    Biden
    I would love for Biden during the debate to have drug testers on site to administer tests to Biden and Trump. 

    See how fast Trump backpedals and not take one.
  • Smellyman said:
    I would love for Biden during the debate to have drug testers on site to administer tests to Biden and Trump. 

    See how fast Trump backpedals and not take one.
    DNA samplers and a row of attorneys to take depositions.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Biden
    Solid performance for Joe last night. Questions were not what I’d call difficult but he performed much better than Trump. Also he just oozes empathy while Trump doesn’t know why the word means. Just doing that and seeming sincere makes him come across better in these settings. Trump was cold, distant and defensive in his townhall. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,683
    Biden
    Solid performance for Joe last night. Questions were not what I’d call difficult but he performed much better than Trump. Also he just oozes empathy while Trump doesn’t know why the word means. Just doing that and seeming sincere makes him come across better in these settings. Trump was cold, distant and defensive in his townhall. 
    Yes, he's very good at retail politics; listens intently, nods, gives non verbal cues.  Trump is terrible at it.  He is used to his bubble and reporters, who he can just shut down, insult or ignore. 
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Solid performance for Joe last night. Questions were not what I’d call difficult but he performed much better than Trump. Also he just oozes empathy while Trump doesn’t know why the word means. Just doing that and seeming sincere makes him come across better in these settings. Trump was cold, distant and defensive in his townhall. 
    Yes, he's very good at retail politics; listens intently, nods, gives non verbal cues.  Trump is terrible at it.  He is used to his bubble and reporters, who he can just shut down, insult or ignore. 
    I was texting with my brothers about this last night....I was hoping for some tougher questions. Even if  those questions might be unfair-- just to see how he deals with them. Because he will certainly get a lot of nonsense thrown out him by the president in a couple weeks. 

    WITH THAT SAID....that republican chick towards the end pressed him and I think he handled that question as well as he could have. Couple more like that would've been preferable. But all in all it was a good night. 


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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,683
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Solid performance for Joe last night. Questions were not what I’d call difficult but he performed much better than Trump. Also he just oozes empathy while Trump doesn’t know why the word means. Just doing that and seeming sincere makes him come across better in these settings. Trump was cold, distant and defensive in his townhall. 
    Yes, he's very good at retail politics; listens intently, nods, gives non verbal cues.  Trump is terrible at it.  He is used to his bubble and reporters, who he can just shut down, insult or ignore. 
    I was texting with my brothers about this last night....I was hoping for some tougher questions. Even if  those questions might be unfair-- just to see how he deals with them. Because he will certainly get a lot of nonsense thrown out him by the president in a couple weeks. 

    WITH THAT SAID....that republican chick towards the end pressed him and I think he handled that question as well as he could have. Couple more like that would've been preferable. But all in all it was a good night. 


    Agreed.  But it's difficult to challenge Biden with really tough questions, certainly compared to what you would ask Trump.  At the end of the day, only one guy has a presidential record right now, and that's the downside of the incumbency.  That lack of record is what propelled Trump in 16, since he could say whatever the hell he wanted to say.  Now he will still say such nonsense, but it doesn't come off as biased for the press to call him out on this.  It's being a sycophant not to do so.  
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Posts: 48,908
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Solid performance for Joe last night. Questions were not what I’d call difficult but he performed much better than Trump. Also he just oozes empathy while Trump doesn’t know why the word means. Just doing that and seeming sincere makes him come across better in these settings. Trump was cold, distant and defensive in his townhall. 
    Yes, he's very good at retail politics; listens intently, nods, gives non verbal cues.  Trump is terrible at it.  He is used to his bubble and reporters, who he can just shut down, insult or ignore. 
    I was texting with my brothers about this last night....I was hoping for some tougher questions. Even if  those questions might be unfair-- just to see how he deals with them. Because he will certainly get a lot of nonsense thrown out him by the president in a couple weeks. 

    WITH THAT SAID....that republican chick towards the end pressed him and I think he handled that question as well as he could have. Couple more like that would've been preferable. But all in all it was a good night. 


    Agreed.  But it's difficult to challenge Biden with really tough questions, certainly compared to what you would ask Trump.  At the end of the day, only one guy has a presidential record right now, and that's the downside of the incumbency.  That lack of record is what propelled Trump in 16, since he could say whatever the hell he wanted to say.  Now he will still say such nonsense, but it doesn't come off as biased for the press to call him out on this.  It's being a sycophant not to do so.  
    haha...that was exactly their response to me. 

    Let's just hope he has some fucking crazy nut badgering him in debate prep or something. 
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  • Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    mickeyrat said:
    it will all come down to how he does in the debates. no republicans watch a democrat town hall. that's nothing. 

    somedo for the potential gotcha memes out of context
    huh?

    looking for the clips that can gif or meme out of context to question his competency, cognitive ability etc.
    He did good.  He sounds like an honest human being. He has empathy.  

    He did that thing where he cuts himself off...kind of like he did in the primary debates where he feels like he is droning on and just stops talking instead of finishing his point.  Not sure why he does that.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,683
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Solid performance for Joe last night. Questions were not what I’d call difficult but he performed much better than Trump. Also he just oozes empathy while Trump doesn’t know why the word means. Just doing that and seeming sincere makes him come across better in these settings. Trump was cold, distant and defensive in his townhall. 
    Yes, he's very good at retail politics; listens intently, nods, gives non verbal cues.  Trump is terrible at it.  He is used to his bubble and reporters, who he can just shut down, insult or ignore. 
    I was texting with my brothers about this last night....I was hoping for some tougher questions. Even if  those questions might be unfair-- just to see how he deals with them. Because he will certainly get a lot of nonsense thrown out him by the president in a couple weeks. 

    WITH THAT SAID....that republican chick towards the end pressed him and I think he handled that question as well as he could have. Couple more like that would've been preferable. But all in all it was a good night. 


    Agreed.  But it's difficult to challenge Biden with really tough questions, certainly compared to what you would ask Trump.  At the end of the day, only one guy has a presidential record right now, and that's the downside of the incumbency.  That lack of record is what propelled Trump in 16, since he could say whatever the hell he wanted to say.  Now he will still say such nonsense, but it doesn't come off as biased for the press to call him out on this.  It's being a sycophant not to do so.  
    haha...that was exactly their response to me. 

    Let's just hope he has some fucking crazy nut badgering him in debate prep or something. 
    Michael Avenetti is probably available for prep, since he's disbarred.  Of course they would have to go to him for the prep since he can't leave the state.  
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,371
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
  • Biden
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    that's the nature of being the incumbent though, don't you think?
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  • Biden
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,683
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    they didn't ask him about dementia or Hunter Biden... you know real issues.  
  • mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    Exactly folks still don’t realize the buck stops with the CIC! He and only him is to blame for the debacle that is C19 , caging immigrants,performing hysterectomies on immigrant women! 
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  • ParksyParksy Posts: 1,753
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    Based on how shitty he has been, just about every question is going to seem like a "gotcha" question.  He has a lot to answer for.
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  • Biden
    did someone ask him why he did not implement a mandatory mask mandate? you know, like he, a private citizen with no position in government at this time, is empowered to do?
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
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    did someone ask him why he did not implement a mandatory mask mandate? you know, like he, a private citizen with no position in government at this time, is empowered to do?
    They really should ask him why he is attracted to children.

    Q should moderate a debate.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,683
    Biden
    did someone ask him why he did not implement a mandatory mask mandate? you know, like he, a private citizen with no position in government at this time, is empowered to do?
    He was asked if he WOULD do so, and he said "no, I don't have the power to do that, but I would call every single governor to try to get them to understand the importance, and if that didn't work I would start calling mayors".  that's not actually a quote, rather a paraphrase, but he addressed it. 
  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,371
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    Well they very well could have asked him about caged children. Isn't it common knowledge at this point that some of those photos that circulated about how bad conditions were with kids in cages were actually taken during Obama's term? So yes, that could have been a fair question to ask and allow him to defend or explain. Trump did have a stricter policy that lead to more children being detained, I'm not saying he didn't, but sure since it was such a big issue it would be a fair question. No reason not to ask him about other big topics, like him being against the China travel ban in January, which he has since denied being against. So if they were being treated equally the moderator would have quotes ready to interrupt and counter his answer with.
    I'm not saying that's how it should have been handled. I actually don't like that, let the person finish then have a moment for a rebuttal. I was just pointing out the differences I saw based on brief highlights of the 2 and even added I'm not sure if those highlights are a fair representation of the evenings.
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,683
    Biden
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    Well they very well could have asked him about caged children. Isn't it common knowledge at this point that some of those photos that circulated about how bad conditions were with kids in cages were actually taken during Obama's term? So yes, that could have been a fair question to ask and allow him to defend or explain. Trump did have a stricter policy that lead to more children being detained, I'm not saying he didn't, but sure since it was such a big issue it would be a fair question. No reason not to ask him about other big topics, like him being against the China travel ban in January, which he has since denied being against. So if they were being treated equally the moderator would have quotes ready to interrupt and counter his answer with.
    I'm not saying that's how it should have been handled. I actually don't like that, let the person finish then have a moment for a rebuttal. I was just pointing out the differences I saw based on brief highlights of the 2 and even added I'm not sure if those highlights are a fair representation of the evenings.
    Here's what Biden tweeted..  Tell me which part you disagree with.

    A wall will not stop the coronavirus.

    Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.

    This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet — and we need a plan to combat it.

    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden)March 13, 2020


    And from April 3rd.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/joe-biden-trump-china-coronavirus/index.html  Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

    "Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

    So the premise of your question would be wrong to ask him.  This is why real journalists that do actual research are best suited to ask questions. 

  • Biden
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    Well they very well could have asked him about caged children. Isn't it common knowledge at this point that some of those photos that circulated about how bad conditions were with kids in cages were actually taken during Obama's term? So yes, that could have been a fair question to ask and allow him to defend or explain. Trump did have a stricter policy that lead to more children being detained, I'm not saying he didn't, but sure since it was such a big issue it would be a fair question. No reason not to ask him about other big topics, like him being against the China travel ban in January, which he has since denied being against. So if they were being treated equally the moderator would have quotes ready to interrupt and counter his answer with.
    I'm not saying that's how it should have been handled. I actually don't like that, let the person finish then have a moment for a rebuttal. I was just pointing out the differences I saw based on brief highlights of the 2 and even added I'm not sure if those highlights are a fair representation of the evenings.
    No they couldn't....Obama/Biden didn't participate in separation of families, massive overcrowding of facilities.  Get out of your bubble.
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  • Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    Well they very well could have asked him about caged children. Isn't it common knowledge at this point that some of those photos that circulated about how bad conditions were with kids in cages were actually taken during Obama's term? So yes, that could have been a fair question to ask and allow him to defend or explain. Trump did have a stricter policy that lead to more children being detained, I'm not saying he didn't, but sure since it was such a big issue it would be a fair question. No reason not to ask him about other big topics, like him being against the China travel ban in January, which he has since denied being against. So if they were being treated equally the moderator would have quotes ready to interrupt and counter his answer with.
    I'm not saying that's how it should have been handled. I actually don't like that, let the person finish then have a moment for a rebuttal. I was just pointing out the differences I saw based on brief highlights of the 2 and even added I'm not sure if those highlights are a fair representation of the evenings.
    Here's what Biden tweeted..  Tell me which part you disagree with.

    A wall will not stop the coronavirus.

    Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.

    This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet — and we need a plan to combat it.

    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden)March 13, 2020


    And from April 3rd.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/joe-biden-trump-china-coronavirus/index.html  Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

    "Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

    So the premise of your question would be wrong to ask him.  This is why real journalists that do actual research are best suited to ask questions. 

    Exactly....absolute garbage.
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  • mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,371
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    Well they very well could have asked him about caged children. Isn't it common knowledge at this point that some of those photos that circulated about how bad conditions were with kids in cages were actually taken during Obama's term? So yes, that could have been a fair question to ask and allow him to defend or explain. Trump did have a stricter policy that lead to more children being detained, I'm not saying he didn't, but sure since it was such a big issue it would be a fair question. No reason not to ask him about other big topics, like him being against the China travel ban in January, which he has since denied being against. So if they were being treated equally the moderator would have quotes ready to interrupt and counter his answer with.
    I'm not saying that's how it should have been handled. I actually don't like that, let the person finish then have a moment for a rebuttal. I was just pointing out the differences I saw based on brief highlights of the 2 and even added I'm not sure if those highlights are a fair representation of the evenings.
    Here's what Biden tweeted..  Tell me which part you disagree with.

    A wall will not stop the coronavirus.

    Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.

    This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet — and we need a plan to combat it.

    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden)March 13, 2020


    And from April 3rd.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/joe-biden-trump-china-coronavirus/index.html  Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

    "Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

    So the premise of your question would be wrong to ask him.  This is why real journalists that do actual research are best suited to ask questions. 

    That's a great tweet. Not his response to the China ban though.
    Here is what he tweeted the day the China travel ban was announced:

    "Donald Trump's Muslim ban is a direct betrayal of America’s most fundamental freedom: religious freedom. And now he's adding more countries to his list of who's not welcome in America.

    It's not who we are — and we'll prove that when we beat Trump this November and end the ban."


    That was January 31, the day the China ban was announced. So that was just a coinicidence, or was he against the China ban?

  • Biden
    mace1229 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    mace1229 said:
    I only watched highlights of both townhalls. At least according to the highlights of about 3 questions each, Biden was asked much easier questions than Trump. Trump was almost like "gotcha" questions from undecided voters where Biden was given softballs to knock out.
    That's just what I gathered from watching the highlight reel, not sure if that represents the entire evening or not.
    I don't understand the "softball" stuff.  Of course they aren't going to ask Biden about caging children, hiding COVID19 from the public, etc., because he hasn't done any of that.
    Well they very well could have asked him about caged children. Isn't it common knowledge at this point that some of those photos that circulated about how bad conditions were with kids in cages were actually taken during Obama's term? So yes, that could have been a fair question to ask and allow him to defend or explain. Trump did have a stricter policy that lead to more children being detained, I'm not saying he didn't, but sure since it was such a big issue it would be a fair question. No reason not to ask him about other big topics, like him being against the China travel ban in January, which he has since denied being against. So if they were being treated equally the moderator would have quotes ready to interrupt and counter his answer with.
    I'm not saying that's how it should have been handled. I actually don't like that, let the person finish then have a moment for a rebuttal. I was just pointing out the differences I saw based on brief highlights of the 2 and even added I'm not sure if those highlights are a fair representation of the evenings.
    Here's what Biden tweeted..  Tell me which part you disagree with.

    A wall will not stop the coronavirus.

    Banning all travel from Europe — or any other part of the world — will not stop it.

    This disease could impact every nation and any person on the planet — and we need a plan to combat it.

    — Joe Biden (@JoeBiden)March 13, 2020


    And from April 3rd.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/03/politics/joe-biden-trump-china-coronavirus/index.html  Joe Biden's campaign said Friday the former vice president supports President Donald Trump's January 31 decision to ban foreign nationals who had been in China within the previous 14 days from entering the United States.

    "Joe Biden supports travel bans that are guided by medical experts, advocated by public health officials, and backed by a full strategy," Kate Bedingfeld, Biden's deputy campaign manager, told CNN. "Science supported this ban, therefore he did too."

    So the premise of your question would be wrong to ask him.  This is why real journalists that do actual research are best suited to ask questions. 

    That's a great tweet. Not his response to the China ban though.
    Here is what he tweeted the day the China travel ban was announced:

    "Donald Trump's Muslim ban is a direct betrayal of America’s most fundamental freedom: religious freedom. And now he's adding more countries to his list of who's not welcome in America.

    It's not who we are — and we'll prove that when we beat Trump this November and end the ban."


    That was January 31, the day the China ban was announced. So that was just a coinicidence, or was he against the China ban?

    https://www.facebook.com/joebiden/posts/10156604263291104

    That had nothing to do with China
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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