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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,357
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,357
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,470
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    Couple of town halls this week is a nice tune up for the debates. Looking forward to watching
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,996
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    "Scientific American has never endorsed a presidential candidate in its 175-year history. This year we are compelled to do so. We do not do this lightly.

    The evidence and the science show that Donald Trump has badly damaged the U.S. and its people—because he rejects evidence and science. The most devastating example is his dishonest and inept response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which cost more than 190,000 Americans their lives by the middle of September. He has also attacked environmental protections, medical care, and the researchers and public science agencies that help this country prepare for its greatest challenges. That is why we urge you to vote for Joe Biden, who is offering fact-based plans to protect our health, our economy and the environment. These and other proposals he has put forth can set the country back on course for a safer, more prosperous and more equitable future."


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    JimmyV said:

    "Scientific American has never endorsed a presidential candidate in its 175-year history. This year we are compelled to do so. We do not do this lightly.

    The evidence and the science show that Donald Trump has badly damaged the U.S. and its people—because he rejects evidence and science. The most devastating example is his dishonest and inept response to the COVID-19 pandemic, which cost more than 190,000 Americans their lives by the middle of September. He has also attacked environmental protections, medical care, and the researchers and public science agencies that help this country prepare for its greatest challenges. That is why we urge you to vote for Joe Biden, who is offering fact-based plans to protect our health, our economy and the environment. These and other proposals he has put forth can set the country back on course for a safer, more prosperous and more equitable future."


    Ouch, but it won't matter to Team Trump Treason supporters. They're not subscribing to Scientific American. More likely viewers of the 700 Club.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,470
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    Is anyone watching this townhall? Trump is being taken to the woodshed here. Holy shit. These regular people are grilling him better than most of the reporters do...


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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
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    Is anyone watching this townhall? Trump is being taken to the woodshed here. Holy shit. These regular people are grilling him better than most of the reporters do...


    I'd love to watch... but the Bolts are on
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
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    Kind of a disaster in Pennsylvania tonight..

    "Herd mentality"..  and the explanation only made it more hilarious. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,357
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    text from a coworker.....

    I'm listening to the Woodward book now. Right from the beginning, it is clear that they knew everything, including how much information China was covering up, from the very beginning. This is more damning than the recordings and the excerpts that have come out.

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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,227
    mrussel1 said:
    Is anyone watching this townhall? Trump is being taken to the woodshed here. Holy shit. These regular people are grilling him better than most of the reporters do...


    I'd love to watch... but the Bolts are on
    Sorry to extend the series, bud ;-)
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
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    mrussel1 said:
    Is anyone watching this townhall? Trump is being taken to the woodshed here. Holy shit. These regular people are grilling him better than most of the reporters do...


    I'd love to watch... but the Bolts are on
    Sorry to extend the series, bud ;-)
    That sucked.  Being down two all-world forwards hurts.  
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,042
    So should we change the poll to Harris vs Trump?
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    mace1229 said:
    So should we change the poll to Harris vs Trump?
    That wouldn't make a difference here, but if the election was really Harris vs. Trump, the polls may be very different. So those two should watch what they say. Biden mixing up the order of the names on the ticket is just Biden being Biden. But Harris saying the words "A Harris administration" comes off like a Freudian slip.  
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,093
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    mace1229 said:
    So should we change the poll to Harris vs Trump?
    That wouldn't make a difference here, but if the election was really Harris vs. Trump, the polls may be very different. So those two should watch what they say. Biden mixing up the order of the names on the ticket is just Biden being Biden. But Harris saying the words "A Harris administration" comes off like a Freudian slip.  
    so funny that something so simple on the dem side can fuck things up, but trump can say idiotic shit 48 times a day and it's old news by lunch
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
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    mace1229 said:
    So should we change the poll to Harris vs Trump?
    That wouldn't make a difference here, but if the election was really Harris vs. Trump, the polls may be very different. So those two should watch what they say. Biden mixing up the order of the names on the ticket is just Biden being Biden. But Harris saying the words "A Harris administration" comes off like a Freudian slip.  
    so funny that something so simple on the dem side can fuck things up, but trump can say idiotic shit 48 times a day and it's old news by lunch
    Real news isn't amplifying this.  It's nothing. 
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,042
    I agree its probably a no big deal slip. I still think its funny given the circumstances. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,093
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    mrussel1 said:
    mace1229 said:
    So should we change the poll to Harris vs Trump?
    That wouldn't make a difference here, but if the election was really Harris vs. Trump, the polls may be very different. So those two should watch what they say. Biden mixing up the order of the names on the ticket is just Biden being Biden. But Harris saying the words "A Harris administration" comes off like a Freudian slip.  
    so funny that something so simple on the dem side can fuck things up, but trump can say idiotic shit 48 times a day and it's old news by lunch
    Real news isn't amplifying this.  It's nothing. 
    i know. but the potential if it did. 
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    By "real news" you probably mean outlets like NYT, MSNBC, and CNN...all of whom want Biden (or should I say Harris?) to win. So of course they're not going to "amplify" anything that contributes to a narrative that Biden is a puppet. 
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    mace1229 said:
    So should we change the poll to Harris vs Trump?
    That wouldn't make a difference here, but if the election was really Harris vs. Trump, the polls may be very different. So those two should watch what they say. Biden mixing up the order of the names on the ticket is just Biden being Biden. But Harris saying the words "A Harris administration" comes off like a Freudian slip.  
    lol nothing burger if this is something to be concerned about we are doomed specially after all the crap Covidiot has said done on&on!
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    mace1229 said:
    So should we change the poll to Harris vs Trump?
    That wouldn't make a difference here, but if the election was really Harris vs. Trump, the polls may be very different. So those two should watch what they say. Biden mixing up the order of the names on the ticket is just Biden being Biden. But Harris saying the words "A Harris administration" comes off like a Freudian slip.  
    lol nothing burger if this is something to be concerned about we are doomed specially after all the crap Covidiot has said done on&on!
    It's hilarious how defensive some of you guys get.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
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    By "real news" you probably mean outlets like NYT, MSNBC, and CNN...all of whom want Biden (or should I say Harris?) to win. So of course they're not going to "amplify" anything that contributes to a narrative that Biden is a puppet. 
    If Biden is a puppet, why is his agenda the agenda on the platform?  Why isn't M4A on there?  Free tuition and forgiveness of student loans?  The 'puppet' narrative is the bullshit one.  Your 'point' has zero merit and is only borne out by your beliefs, no actual empirical evidence.  
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    mrussel1 said:
    By "real news" you probably mean outlets like NYT, MSNBC, and CNN...all of whom want Biden (or should I say Harris?) to win. So of course they're not going to "amplify" anything that contributes to a narrative that Biden is a puppet. 
    If Biden is a puppet, why is his agenda the agenda on the platform?  Why isn't M4A on there?  Free tuition and forgiveness of student loans?  The 'puppet' narrative is the bullshit one.  Your 'point' has zero merit and is only borne out by your beliefs, no actual empirical evidence.  
    More of an electoral puppet. In that the DNC doesn't really want him as president, but got left with him when all their candidates failed to connect in the primary. That's why there was the coordinated effort before Super Tuesday to make sure it was him instead of Bernie. As for his platform, it's a pretty typical democratic party platform. That should be the platform. Will it be once he's elected? 
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    mace1229mace1229 Posts: 9,042
    Assuming Biden wins, I don't see him running for reelection in 4 years. I do think you will see a lot more focus on Harris, or whoever they hope to put on the ticket, than Biden for the second half of the term. Wouldn't really even be surprised if he resigns after 3 years so she can run as the incumbent for reelection. I'm not convinced that is the plan going in right now, just won't be surprised if that happens one bit. 
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,357
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    By "real news" you probably mean outlets like NYT, MSNBC, and CNN...all of whom want Biden (or should I say Harris?) to win. So of course they're not going to "amplify" anything that contributes to a narrative that Biden is a puppet. 

    maybe listen to the rest of her speech, she corrected herslf immediately. but no go ahead and stick with a 4 second clip.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,811
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    mrussel1 said:
    By "real news" you probably mean outlets like NYT, MSNBC, and CNN...all of whom want Biden (or should I say Harris?) to win. So of course they're not going to "amplify" anything that contributes to a narrative that Biden is a puppet. 
    If Biden is a puppet, why is his agenda the agenda on the platform?  Why isn't M4A on there?  Free tuition and forgiveness of student loans?  The 'puppet' narrative is the bullshit one.  Your 'point' has zero merit and is only borne out by your beliefs, no actual empirical evidence.  
    More of an electoral puppet. In that the DNC doesn't really want him as president, but got left with him when all their candidates failed to connect in the primary. That's why there was the coordinated effort before Super Tuesday to make sure it was him instead of Bernie. As for his platform, it's a pretty typical democratic party platform. That should be the platform. Will it be once he's elected? 
    So wait a minute, the DNC didn't want him as president, so they coordinated an effort for him to win the primaries by taking out Sanders? Why didn't they coordinate all of that for Warren, Pete or any of the other candidates they allegedly preferred?  They decided to coordinate for the person that finished 4th in IA and 5th in NH.  And your evidence of this is Harris misspeaking and calling it a Harris administration..  the woman who was running for president for 18 months and probably said the phrase "Harris Admin" two thousand times.  
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    mace1229 said:
    Assuming Biden wins, I don't see him running for reelection in 4 years. I do think you will see a lot more focus on Harris, or whoever they hope to put on the ticket, than Biden for the second half of the term. Wouldn't really even be surprised if he resigns after 3 years so she can run as the incumbent for reelection. I'm not convinced that is the plan going in right now, just won't be surprised if that happens one bit. 
    The problem with that though is Harris’ electability. Remember she had such little support in the primary that she dropped out before Iowa. Being VP will obviously raise her profile. But will she become popular with the left over the next four years? The only reason this ticket is probably going to win is because Trump is an awful incumbent. It won’t be as easy in 2024. 
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    mace1229 said:
    Assuming Biden wins, I don't see him running for reelection in 4 years. I do think you will see a lot more focus on Harris, or whoever they hope to put on the ticket, than Biden for the second half of the term. Wouldn't really even be surprised if he resigns after 3 years so she can run as the incumbent for reelection. I'm not convinced that is the plan going in right now, just won't be surprised if that happens one bit. 
    I thought he already said he would only be a 1 term president no matter what. 


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