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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,342
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    Aggressively polarized electorate + Unfamiliar voting process + General lack of competence at state and local election boards = Hold on to your hats
    my county board is on the ball
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Aggressively polarized electorate + Unfamiliar voting process + General lack of competence at state and local election boards = Hold on to your hats
    my county board is on the ball
    There are good ones, for sure. I've done election reporting twice in the past 4 years and will again this fall. It is all over the board. Most are fairly competent, but there is more incompetence than you would expect. Enough that I worry people will mistake incompetence for malice.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Aggressively polarized electorate + Unfamiliar voting process + General lack of competence at state and local election boards = Hold on to your hats
    my county board is on the ball
    There are good ones, for sure. I've done election reporting twice in the past 4 years and will again this fall. It is all over the board. Most are fairly competent, but there is more incompetence than you would expect. Enough that I worry people will mistake incompetence for malice.
    Or, as always, use one instance as representative of all.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Aggressively polarized electorate + Unfamiliar voting process + General lack of competence at state and local election boards = Hold on to your hats
    my county board is on the ball
    There are good ones, for sure. I've done election reporting twice in the past 4 years and will again this fall. It is all over the board. Most are fairly competent, but there is more incompetence than you would expect. Enough that I worry people will mistake incompetence for malice.
    Or, as always, use one instance as representative of all.
    When I'm reporting, I'm on a Discord channel hearing about multiple counties and multiple states. When I leave the site I worked and get home, I scrape websites and/or call municipalities who haven't reported yet. It's not one instance. 
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    If you have an interest in this stuff, these companies are always looking for election night staff. Decision Desk HQ and Edison, specifically. I don’t know if AP does seasonal hiring. It's illuminating to see how the sausage is made. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Aggressively polarized electorate + Unfamiliar voting process + General lack of competence at state and local election boards = Hold on to your hats
    my county board is on the ball
    There are good ones, for sure. I've done election reporting twice in the past 4 years and will again this fall. It is all over the board. Most are fairly competent, but there is more incompetence than you would expect. Enough that I worry people will mistake incompetence for malice.
    Or, as always, use one instance as representative of all.
    When I'm reporting, I'm on a Discord channel hearing about multiple counties and multiple states. When I leave the site I worked and get home, I scrape websites and/or call municipalities who haven't reported yet. It's not one instance. 
    I'm saying people or the media will have one story and apply it to the whole.  Not talking about you specifically.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    pjl44 said:
    Aggressively polarized electorate + Unfamiliar voting process + General lack of competence at state and local election boards = Hold on to your hats
    my county board is on the ball
    There are good ones, for sure. I've done election reporting twice in the past 4 years and will again this fall. It is all over the board. Most are fairly competent, but there is more incompetence than you would expect. Enough that I worry people will mistake incompetence for malice.
    Or, as always, use one instance as representative of all.
    When I'm reporting, I'm on a Discord channel hearing about multiple counties and multiple states. When I leave the site I worked and get home, I scrape websites and/or call municipalities who haven't reported yet. It's not one instance. 
    I'm saying people or the media will have one story and apply it to the whole.  Not talking about you specifically.
    Ahhhhhhh...gotcha. My bad if I took that wrong. Yes, there will be all sorts of one-off examples of craziness and it's important to keep them in context.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    @Ledbetterman10 is the Larry Sabato of the AMT... the Swammi...  https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/507151-the-memo-democrats-grow-more-bullish-on-texas
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    @Ledbetterman10 is the Larry Sabato of the AMT... the Swammi...  https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/507151-the-memo-democrats-grow-more-bullish-on-texas
    Well it takes a special idiot for this Texas prediction to even be feasible, and Trump is that special idiot. For all his bragging about his approval rating within the GOP, it'd be a hilarious rebuke of him by Republicans if (when!) he loses Texas. 
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  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,196
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    @Ledbetterman10 is the Larry Sabato of the AMT... the Swammi...  https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/507151-the-memo-democrats-grow-more-bullish-on-texas
    Haha, living in Charlottesville I use and hear the "Larry Sabato of X" lots.  Good and surprising news about Texas.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Vitalogensia said:
    mrussel1 said:
    @Ledbetterman10 is the Larry Sabato of the AMT... the Swammi...  https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/507151-the-memo-democrats-grow-more-bullish-on-texas
    Haha, living in Charlottesville I use and hear the "Larry Sabato of X" lots.  Good and surprising news about Texas.
    Larry is a popular guy around those parts.  I love C'ville and love UVA.  Great place. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    Biden
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=58&v=YRVQ6layb5A&feature=emb_logo

    Great ad running in TX
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    Rick Wilson from the Lincoln Project was on Stephen Colbert's Tooning Out The News. Great interview!

    https://youtu.be/tNvuYPpX0C0

    And if I'm saying it's good, you know it's good.


  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,342
    Biden
    KANYE OUT!!!!!
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mickeyrat said:
    KANYE OUT!!!!!
    Ha!  
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    mickeyrat said:
    KANYE OUT!!!!!
    I am shocked. Shocked, I tell you. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,342
    Biden
    And a new song dedicated to his mom just dropped....
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,038
    mickeyrat said:
    And a new song dedicated to his mom just dropped....
    Is it called Kimmy?
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  • Halifax2TheMax
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    Team Trump Treason should definitely be re-elected. Honester than Abe.

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  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    Biden
    Kanye had a good run, and his contribution will have a lasting impact in shaping policy for the next 20 years. He's a national treasure.
    :lol:
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