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    Oh baby! This Woodward book, with only 8 weeks left could be a game changer. Hammers him on his real thoughts behind the scenes verses what he said publicly on Corona. And these are not anonymous sources. Bobby's probably got tapes too. 

    God bless that glorious bastard. 
    why on earth would trump be dumb enough to talk to woodward?
    Because Woodward is the pre-eminent chronicler of presidents and Team Trump Treason thinks he's the greatest. Not surprising when you believe your own myth. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,287
    Biden
    trump is going to start a war so this goes away.

    after he says it was an impersonator on the tapes, so he has plausible deniability to his base of stupids.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,501
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    Imagine the ads that will come of these tapes. Intersplicing him telling Woodward how much more dangerous it really was and in the next scene him telling the American public that he shut the virus down and how there’s only 15 people and it will eventually be zero. 

    Folks, this is devastating. 
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    i'll believe it when i see it. i think you and others have said "this is devastating" and "this is different than (the last scandal)" several times over. if not you, my apologies, but it just sounds very familiar where i'm not getting my hopes up one iota. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,501
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    i'll believe it when i see it. i think you and others have said "this is devastating" and "this is different than (the last scandal)" several times over. if not you, my apologies, but it just sounds very familiar where i'm not getting my hopes up one iota. 
    Get those hopes up. This is clearly different than anything else, giving the timing and the subject matter. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,287
    Biden
    Imagine the ads that will come of these tapes. Intersplicing him telling Woodward how much more dangerous it really was and in the next scene him telling the American public that he shut the virus down and how there’s only 15 people and it will eventually be zero. 

    Folks, this is devastating. 
    i wish i was as hopeful as you.
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
    Biden
    i'll believe it when i see it. i think you and others have said "this is devastating" and "this is different than (the last scandal)" several times over. if not you, my apologies, but it just sounds very familiar where i'm not getting my hopes up one iota. 
    Get those hopes up. This is clearly different than anything else, giving the timing and the subject matter. 
    given the percentage of white women who voted for him after they KNEW he sexually assaults women for fun, i'll see on nov 4. 
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    i'll believe it when i see it. i think you and others have said "this is devastating" and "this is different than (the last scandal)" several times over. if not you, my apologies, but it just sounds very familiar where i'm not getting my hopes up one iota. 
    Get those hopes up. This is clearly different than anything else, giving the timing and the subject matter. 
    And 190,000+ dead Americans.

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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
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    https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/09/politics/trump-woodward-fallout-coronavirus/index.html

    exactly what i said. and you will be amazed at how many believe him, don't care, or both. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,164
    Biden
    Imagine the ads that will come of these tapes. Intersplicing him telling Woodward how much more dangerous it really was and in the next scene him telling the American public that he shut the virus down and how there’s only 15 people and it will eventually be zero. 

    Folks, this is devastating. 
    To anyone else it would be....tRump will still get his 40%
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)

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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,501
    Biden
    Imagine the ads that will come of these tapes. Intersplicing him telling Woodward how much more dangerous it really was and in the next scene him telling the American public that he shut the virus down and how there’s only 15 people and it will eventually be zero. 

    Folks, this is devastating. 
    To anyone else it would be....tRump will still get his 40%
    Yeah but his 40% don't matter if Biden is at 50%, though, right? At this point, all we are concerned about are the 6-7% who are still wishy washy. 
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    gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,287
    Biden
    Imagine the ads that will come of these tapes. Intersplicing him telling Woodward how much more dangerous it really was and in the next scene him telling the American public that he shut the virus down and how there’s only 15 people and it will eventually be zero. 

    Folks, this is devastating. 
    To anyone else it would be....tRump will still get his 40%
    Yeah but his 40% don't matter if Biden is at 50%, though, right? At this point, all we are concerned about are the 6-7% who are still wishy washy. 
    biden needs to trounce him by 20 points. any less than that and trump can call it fake results.

    we are not against trump. we are against trumpism, which needs to be completely eradicated.
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,501
    Biden
    Imagine the ads that will come of these tapes. Intersplicing him telling Woodward how much more dangerous it really was and in the next scene him telling the American public that he shut the virus down and how there’s only 15 people and it will eventually be zero. 

    Folks, this is devastating. 
    To anyone else it would be....tRump will still get his 40%
    Yeah but his 40% don't matter if Biden is at 50%, though, right? At this point, all we are concerned about are the 6-7% who are still wishy washy. 
    biden needs to trounce him by 20 points. any less than that and trump can call it fake results.

    we are not against trump. we are against trumpism, which needs to be completely eradicated.
    That would be nice, but that's not happening in this divided country right now. 
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    JimmyVJimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 18,998
    Biden
    House Dems choose today to release another whistleblower report. This is why nothing sticks. There are so many log on the fire and none of them can really catch fire. They smother each other out. 
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    Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Your Mom's Posts: 18,164
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    Imagine the ads that will come of these tapes. Intersplicing him telling Woodward how much more dangerous it really was and in the next scene him telling the American public that he shut the virus down and how there’s only 15 people and it will eventually be zero. 

    Folks, this is devastating. 
    To anyone else it would be....tRump will still get his 40%
    Yeah but his 40% don't matter if Biden is at 50%, though, right? At this point, all we are concerned about are the 6-7% who are still wishy washy. 
    I get it but I'm not sure there are that many that haven't made up their minds yet.  If you are willing to vote for tRump right now there is nothing that will change that.
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    pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,300
    edited September 2020
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    JimmyV said:
    House Dems choose today to release another whistleblower report. This is why nothing sticks. There are so many log on the fire and none of them can really catch fire. They smother each other out. 
    There is literally nothing that could be revealed about Trump that will change his base.  He could be slaughtering children and they would find a way to accept it.  The only hope is maybe a story or two changes a few minds and keeps some from voting for him.  I really don't believe there are many undecided's at this point. I think more likely those who are considered undecideds are going to be non-voters.  Pray for good weather in the major cities, get the vote out and trounce this mf'er
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
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    pjhawks said:
    JimmyV said:
    House Dems choose today to release another whistleblower report. This is why nothing sticks. There are so many log on the fire and none of them can really catch fire. They smother each other out. 
    There is literally nothing that could be revealed about Trump that will change his base.  He could be slaughtering children and they would find a way to accept it.  The only hope is maybe a story or two changes a few minds and keeps some from voting for him.  I really don't believe there are many undecided's at this point. I think more likely those who are considered undecideds are going to be non-voters.  Pray for good weather in the major cities, get the vote out and trounce this mf'er
    this is what i was actually going to come and post. the undecided's are the non-carers. they'll vote if they remember/have the day off/are bored/the weather is good/they get shamed by their mom. 
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    The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there. Posts: 47,501
    edited September 2020
    Biden
    Imagine the ads that will come of these tapes. Intersplicing him telling Woodward how much more dangerous it really was and in the next scene him telling the American public that he shut the virus down and how there’s only 15 people and it will eventually be zero. 

    Folks, this is devastating. 
    To anyone else it would be....tRump will still get his 40%
    Yeah but his 40% don't matter if Biden is at 50%, though, right? At this point, all we are concerned about are the 6-7% who are still wishy washy. 
    I get it but I'm not sure there are that many that haven't made up their minds yet.  If you are willing to vote for tRump right now there is nothing that will change that.
    The fact that there are so few who haven't made up their minds is one of the big differences between this year and 2016. But we know how close 2016 was, right? That is why I believe this story is a huge issue. The small percentage of voters who claim to have not made up their minds are going to play an enormous factor. Given that Covid is the biggest issue in the campaign, I don't see how this will not sway a bunch of them towards Biden. Hope that makes sense!
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    dignindignin Posts: 9,304
    I have a feeling we will see stories like this dropping at least every week (or maybe every day at this rate) until election day. 

    It's great, keep Team Trump on defense the whole election. Nothing but a positive for Biden.
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    tbergstbergs Posts: 9,331
    Biden
    The only fear I have is that Biden all of a sudden drops dead. Between him and RBG, I don't know who to be more concerned about. 
    It's a hopeless situation...
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
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    tbergs said:
    The only fear I have is that Biden all of a sudden drops dead. Between him and RBG, I don't know who to be more concerned about. 
    lmao. i don't know why, but this made me laugh out loud
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
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    RBG is like the keith richards of the bench. 
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,845
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    It's not amazing that Trump won in 2016. Neither party had a very deep bench.  The Dems in particular screwed it up every way they could.  Hillary was riding 25 years of being hated. Trump was perceived as being a great businessman. Sure, some say it should have been over the moment he mocked the disabled reporter, but "Killary" was still his opposite on the ballot.

    But now?  All this shit that's been happening.  He's such a fucking disgrace. He divides.  He's very cavalier with our lives because he wants to win so bad. He whines and cries when he's challenged.  He golfs during tragedy. He does everything, times ten, the he used to blast Obama for.  And while I am a known pessimist (I think he's still going to win), not a single one of you thinks he can't win.  This election could still go either way.  And after what's coming out now, it'll still be a tossup.  Even if Biden somehow finds a way to be inaugurated next January, I live in a country that lived through all this crap and enough people wanted more that it was a nail-biter.  It's depressing.
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    OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,845
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    tbergs said:
    The only fear I have is that Biden all of a sudden drops dead. Between him and RBG, I don't know who to be more concerned about. 
    lmao. i don't know why, but this made me laugh out loud

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    OnWis97 said:
    It's not amazing that Trump won in 2016. Neither party had a very deep bench.  The Dems in particular screwed it up every way they could.  Hillary was riding 25 years of being hated. Trump was perceived as being a great businessman. Sure, some say it should have been over the moment he mocked the disabled reporter, but "Killary" was still his opposite on the ballot.

    But now?  All this shit that's been happening.  He's such a fucking disgrace. He divides.  He's very cavalier with our lives because he wants to win so bad. He whines and cries when he's challenged.  He golfs during tragedy. He does everything, times ten, the he used to blast Obama for.  And while I am a known pessimist (I think he's still going to win), not a single one of you thinks he can't win.  This election could still go either way.  And after what's coming out now, it'll still be a tossup.  Even if Biden somehow finds a way to be inaugurated next January, I live in a country that lived through all this crap and enough people wanted more that it was a nail-biter.  It's depressing.
    I think he can win by stealing the election via missing ballots, purged voter rolls and legal challenges and poll “watchers” intimidation on Election Day. Throw in some deep fakes of Sleepy Woke Joe having sex with children or some sick shit posted to Faceturd three days before the election and Team Trump Treason wins the electoral college but loses the popular vote by 6 million.

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 36,379
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    mickeyrat said:
    I guess Barr will have to come to the rescue again!

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    Lerxst1992Lerxst1992 Posts: 6,238
    Imagine the ads that will come of these tapes. Intersplicing him telling Woodward how much more dangerous it really was and in the next scene him telling the American public that he shut the virus down and how there’s only 15 people and it will eventually be zero. 

    Folks, this is devastating. 
    To anyone else it would be....tRump will still get his 40%

    During The Great Depression Herbert Hoover got 40% of the vote.  
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,967
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    Saw this on FB today:

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    GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 10,213
    Biden
    Today, my niece turned 18. The one thing she said she is excited about is voting in her first election. We can add another Biden vote to the ranks. 
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