Biden vs Trump 2020 - vote now and discuss!

darwinstheory

Biden

GlowGirl said:

Today, my niece turned 18. The one thing she said she is excited about is voting in her first election. We can add another Biden vote to the ranks. 

I know you're in NY. Hopefully her Biden vote is in a swing state!

GlowGirl

Biden

darwinstheory said:

GlowGirl said:

Today, my niece turned 18. The one thing she said she is excited about is voting in her first election. We can add another Biden vote to the ranks. 

I know you're in NY. Hopefully her Biden vote is in a swing state!

She is in Maryland. It’s a blue state. But I am proud of her enthusiasm about voting. 

brianlux

Biden

GlowGirl said:

Today, my niece turned 18. The one thing she said she is excited about is voting in her first election. We can add another Biden vote to the ranks. 

darwinstheory

Biden

GlowGirl said:

darwinstheory said:

GlowGirl said:

Today, my niece turned 18. The one thing she said she is excited about is voting in her first election. We can add another Biden vote to the ranks. 

I know you're in NY. Hopefully her Biden vote is in a swing state!

She is in Maryland. It’s a blue state. But I am proud of her enthusiasm about voting. 

Darn it! Either way, good on her for exercising her right to vote. And happy birthday to her!

static111

Biden

I appreciate that the guys have endorsed Biden, but that shirt just hurts my brain.  I get that it is like something a Trumper would wear, but I don’t see anyone but collectors maybe being enticed by that thing.  I mean wow. It looks like a very patriotic and confused left wing unicorn exploded.

gimmesometruth27

Biden

static111 said:

I appreciate that the guys have endorsed Biden, but that shirt just hurts my brain.  I get that it is like something a Trumper would wear, but I don’t see anyone but collectors maybe being enticed by that thing.  I mean wow. It looks like a very patriotic and confused left wing unicorn exploded.

i would not wear it. too many trumpers around here. do not need to be getting into any fights at my age.

static111

Biden

gimmesometruth27 said:

static111 said:

I appreciate that the guys have endorsed Biden, but that shirt just hurts my brain.  I get that it is like something a Trumper would wear, but I don’t see anyone but collectors maybe being enticed by that thing.  I mean wow. It looks like a very patriotic and confused left wing unicorn exploded.

i would not wear it. too many trumpers around here. do not need to be getting into any fights at my age.

Oh man I didn’t even think of the Trollin possibilities.   I could take a drive outta town and go for a walk in Trump country with my camera running....oooooowwwwwhhhheeeeeee

gimmesometruth27

Biden

static111 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

static111 said:

I appreciate that the guys have endorsed Biden, but that shirt just hurts my brain.  I get that it is like something a Trumper would wear, but I don’t see anyone but collectors maybe being enticed by that thing.  I mean wow. It looks like a very patriotic and confused left wing unicorn exploded.

i would not wear it. too many trumpers around here. do not need to be getting into any fights at my age.

Oh man I didn’t even think of the Trollin possibilities.   I could take a drive outta town and go for a walk in Trump country with my camera running....oooooowwwwwhhhheeeeeee

good luck!! you didn't get the idea from me!

static111

Biden

gimmesometruth27 said:

static111 said:

gimmesometruth27 said:

static111 said:

I appreciate that the guys have endorsed Biden, but that shirt just hurts my brain.  I get that it is like something a Trumper would wear, but I don’t see anyone but collectors maybe being enticed by that thing.  I mean wow. It looks like a very patriotic and confused left wing unicorn exploded.

i would not wear it. too many trumpers around here. do not need to be getting into any fights at my age.

Oh man I didn’t even think of the Trollin possibilities.   I could take a drive outta town and go for a walk in Trump country with my camera running....oooooowwwwwhhhheeeeeee

good luck!! you didn't get the idea from me!

I could handle the possible beating, but I don’t think I could handle the crime against fashion.

mrussel1

Biden

Some good news..

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/10/democrats-early-voting-lead-412106

Sanders19

Biden

I figure I can’t have an opinion if I sit them out. So Biden it is...and we all live to fight or disagree another day

static111

Biden

Sanders19 said:

I figure I can’t have an opinion if I sit them out. So Biden it is...and we all live to fight or disagree another day

That is pretty much the place I am currently...could be worse.  I'm not sure I will ever participate in the lesser of two evils voting again unless we have another extreme case.

Gern Blansten

Biden

mrussel1 said:

Some good news..

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/10/democrats-early-voting-lead-412106

Early voting is great... I've done it for the last two presidential elections. I didn't feel like Hillary got the early vote out the way as she should have but that might have been complacency that was beyond her control. 

hsohi

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

mrussel1

Biden

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

hsohi

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

Anything I said about Biden wrong?

mrussel1

Biden

hsohi said:

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

Anything I said about Biden wrong?

1. Where does he say he supports endless war?
2. You say he doesn't support universal health, but that is just straight wrong.  He doesn't support M4A.  He supports medicare choice.  I hope you understand the difference.
3. Marijuana - directly from his position paper  "Democrats believe no one should be in prison solely because they use drugs. Democrats will decriminalize marijuana use and reschedule it through executive action on the federal level. We will support legalization of medical marijuana, and believe states should be able to make their own decisions about recreational use"  https://joebiden.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/UNITY-TASK-FORCE-RECOMMENDATIONS.pdf
4. Where did he (privately) tell Wall Street not to worry?  Not to worry about what?  Tax rates, CFPB, Basil III reserve requirements?  Cancer?  Covid?

Gern Blansten

Biden

hsohi said:

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

Anything I said about Biden wrong?

All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.

mrussel1

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

hsohi said:

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

Anything I said about Biden wrong?

All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.

See my post.  It's wrong by reading Biden's position.  Biden absolutely believes in universal health through a combination of medicare, medicare choice and private healthcare.  He doesn't believe we should eliminate private insurance.  

Gern Blansten

Biden

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

hsohi said:

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

Anything I said about Biden wrong?

All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.

See my post.  It's wrong by reading Biden's position.  Biden absolutely believes in universal health through a combination of medicare, medicare choice and private healthcare.  He doesn't believe we should eliminate private insurance.  

But don't you think he is just supporting the ACA at this point?  Clearly UHC would be better for everyone....but I don't blame him for supporting the policy that came out while he was VP.  That would give tRump an attack point.

mrussel1

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

hsohi said:

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

Anything I said about Biden wrong?

All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.

See my post.  It's wrong by reading Biden's position.  Biden absolutely believes in universal health through a combination of medicare, medicare choice and private healthcare.  He doesn't believe we should eliminate private insurance.  

But don't you think he is just supporting the ACA at this point?  Clearly UHC would be better for everyone....but I don't blame him for supporting the policy that came out while he was VP.  That would give tRump an attack point.

UHC does not equal M4A.  Supporting universal health means that you think every American should have access to affordable, quality healthcare.  It's a principle, not a policy.  Believing that M4A is the way to achieve UHC is a policy.  Biden believes in the principle, but wants to get there through medicare choice and private insurance.  The Bernie wing wants to make medicare the ONLY avenue of insurance, banning private employer insurance. 

Gern Blansten

Biden

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

hsohi said:

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

Anything I said about Biden wrong?

All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.

See my post.  It's wrong by reading Biden's position.  Biden absolutely believes in universal health through a combination of medicare, medicare choice and private healthcare.  He doesn't believe we should eliminate private insurance.  

But don't you think he is just supporting the ACA at this point?  Clearly UHC would be better for everyone....but I don't blame him for supporting the policy that came out while he was VP.  That would give tRump an attack point.

UHC does not equal M4A.  Supporting universal health means that you think every American should have access to affordable, quality healthcare.  It's a principle, not a policy.  Believing that M4A is the way to achieve UHC is a policy.  Biden believes in the principle, but wants to get there through medicare choice and private insurance.  The Bernie wing wants to make medicare the ONLY avenue of insurance, banning private employer insurance. 

I haven't argued this for awhile...I was equating UHC with M4A.  I'm a M4A guy...I think we will inevitably get there.

I have been saying for years that we should just start reducing the age that people qualify for medicare on a yearly basis until we are all covered.  

hsohi

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

hsohi said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.

it doesn't matter what your intention was. the content is still laughable. 

mrussel1

Biden

hsohi said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.

You're pro endless war?

mrussel1

Biden

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

mrussel1 said:

Gern Blansten said:

hsohi said:

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

You go vote for the person that checks all your boxes perfectly.  Let us know the name so we can see it in our ballot.  

Good job lying as well.  You probably convinced yourself you're right. 

Anything I said about Biden wrong?

All of it basically.  My guess is that he does support UHC but he won't give tRump that ammo.  Same with marijuana.

See my post.  It's wrong by reading Biden's position.  Biden absolutely believes in universal health through a combination of medicare, medicare choice and private healthcare.  He doesn't believe we should eliminate private insurance.  

But don't you think he is just supporting the ACA at this point?  Clearly UHC would be better for everyone....but I don't blame him for supporting the policy that came out while he was VP.  That would give tRump an attack point.

UHC does not equal M4A.  Supporting universal health means that you think every American should have access to affordable, quality healthcare.  It's a principle, not a policy.  Believing that M4A is the way to achieve UHC is a policy.  Biden believes in the principle, but wants to get there through medicare choice and private insurance.  The Bernie wing wants to make medicare the ONLY avenue of insurance, banning private employer insurance. 

I haven't argued this for awhile...I was equating UHC with M4A.  I'm a M4A guy...I think we will inevitably get there.

I have been saying for years that we should just start reducing the age that people qualify for medicare on a yearly basis until we are all covered.  

I would be supportive of getting there eventually if the gov't shows it can manage it efficiently.  If a person has a choice to buy into medicare or go private employer based, they will be able to make educated decisions on their care.  If they choose medicare and it proves to be efficient, quality and priced well, people will migrate to it.  That will force insurance companies to either lower their price, improve their services or die.  It's a great balance to me where the consumer gets a choice and let the best provider win.  

hsohi

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.

You're pro endless war?

Yes. I, like Biden and possibly every president/politician realize the military industrial complex is the real economic engine.

Both parties eagerly passed the last defence budget recently.

hsohi

HughFreakingDillon said:

hsohi said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.

it doesn't matter what your intention was. the content is still laughable. 

It’s ok, we will all laugh together at the victory party.

I’m hoping to go to the Goldman Sachs Biden Gala in January 2021.

mrussel1

Biden

hsohi said:

mrussel1 said:

hsohi said:

hsohi said:

Biden is the way to go:
He supports endless war and intervention
He will keep marijuana a schedule one drug
He dies not support universal health care
He has told Wall Street (privately) not to worry 

I think PJ and Bernie are backing the right candidate.

I think people are misreading my post. I like Biden because of the mentioned points. He is more of an old style Republican than Trump who has turned the party into something else. Biden is a Mitch McConnell type of man.

I applaud PJ and Bernie for supporting Biden.

You're pro endless war?

Yes. I, like Biden and possibly every president/politician realize the military industrial complex is the real economic engine.

Both parties eagerly passed the last defence budget recently.

Your sarcasm is noted.  

You should review Biden's actual words and positions rather than relying on far left Reddit posts for your information.  

HughFreakingDillon

Biden

never heard the term "dead cat bounce" before. 

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/11/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-electoral-college/index.html