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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,352
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    There is a tropical storm coming through. I'm closer to Boston and the forecast for most of the week said it was going to hit us, with NH being due north. Now it looks to be staying a bit further west. It's weird to have to confirm this, but some of y'all will get huffy about anything.


    Damn that terrorist RADICAL far left tropical storm FAY!
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,038
    pjl44 said:
    There is a tropical storm coming through. I'm closer to Boston and the forecast for most of the week said it was going to hit us, with NH being due north. Now it looks to be staying a bit further west. It's weird to have to confirm this, but some of y'all will get huffy about anything.


    Team Trump Treason could just get his sharpie out and redirect the storm away from Portsmouth, NH, right? Make the storm take a hard left into Connecticut or Rhode Island, right? 
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  • mickeyrat
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    Biden
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  • Zod
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    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Trump is fucked.  There is no coming back from this.  I hope I am wrong but I think the virus situation is going to get much worse and inevitably it will be October when influenza season starts as well.

    He simply cannot do anything reasonable that improves his approval %....nothing.  He's an absolute piece of shit and Lindsey Graham was right, he's going to take the party down with him and they will deserve it.
    Yeah I don't think there's anything Trump can do himself to improve his numbers. His only chance is to hope Biden fucks up. The only way that can happen is Biden picking the worst possible running mate he can, or if he bombs really, really bad in a debate. Even those probably won't be enough, but they could narrow the gap. 
    What's amazing is that Trump could likely improve his chances by taking the virus seriously....yet he just won't fucking do it.  
    In a perverse way, the pandemic (or any disaster) really is an opportunity to solidify yourself as a leader fairly easily. Look at any Governor who completely bungled their state's response but has sky high approval ratings because they went on tv and gave daily updates. Hell, we all thought Rudy Giuliani was basically Teddy Roosevelt at one point. It takes real effort to blow it like Trump.
    While it's a difficult thing to navigate, there's no doubt that the virus was a hanging curveball for him.  He had the chance to be a leader but he failed.  He shows us what he values, time and again.  And it's not us.  
    And he had Fauci out in front ready to be the face of the gov't response....instead tRump silences him.  Just fucking yesterday tRump said that Fauci wasn't always right and was "wrong a lot"....really fucking weird.
    Another good point, and proof that while Trump was a pretty good politician for a hot-minute there in 2016, it all seems like a fluke now. Fauci was a godsend for him. The infection disease expert. Let him and his people handle it all. If they do well, that good. It would be perceived that Trump was right to let the experts do their thing. And if Fauci and his team fucked up, Trump could (and would) blame him. 

    Trump's biggest folly (politically) in all this was prioritizing the economy over the virus. I get why he did it. From his perspective, his good economy was the best thing he had going and he didn't want to see it messed with. But shit happens and you have to adjust. That's what most of the real presidents have had to do when crisis or war happened. 

    There's another way to look at it.   The skillset needed to win an election isn't the same skillset needed to do the job.     Trump seems to have really enjoyed the campaigning aspect,  enjoyed working to get the gig, but doesn't really seem to want the actual job (just the prestige of saying he's the president).

    I think that's one of the negatives how elections are structured in democratic nations.   It's a weird process.
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    Biden
    Zod said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Trump is fucked.  There is no coming back from this.  I hope I am wrong but I think the virus situation is going to get much worse and inevitably it will be October when influenza season starts as well.

    He simply cannot do anything reasonable that improves his approval %....nothing.  He's an absolute piece of shit and Lindsey Graham was right, he's going to take the party down with him and they will deserve it.
    Yeah I don't think there's anything Trump can do himself to improve his numbers. His only chance is to hope Biden fucks up. The only way that can happen is Biden picking the worst possible running mate he can, or if he bombs really, really bad in a debate. Even those probably won't be enough, but they could narrow the gap. 
    What's amazing is that Trump could likely improve his chances by taking the virus seriously....yet he just won't fucking do it.  
    In a perverse way, the pandemic (or any disaster) really is an opportunity to solidify yourself as a leader fairly easily. Look at any Governor who completely bungled their state's response but has sky high approval ratings because they went on tv and gave daily updates. Hell, we all thought Rudy Giuliani was basically Teddy Roosevelt at one point. It takes real effort to blow it like Trump.
    While it's a difficult thing to navigate, there's no doubt that the virus was a hanging curveball for him.  He had the chance to be a leader but he failed.  He shows us what he values, time and again.  And it's not us.  
    And he had Fauci out in front ready to be the face of the gov't response....instead tRump silences him.  Just fucking yesterday tRump said that Fauci wasn't always right and was "wrong a lot"....really fucking weird.
    Another good point, and proof that while Trump was a pretty good politician for a hot-minute there in 2016, it all seems like a fluke now. Fauci was a godsend for him. The infection disease expert. Let him and his people handle it all. If they do well, that good. It would be perceived that Trump was right to let the experts do their thing. And if Fauci and his team fucked up, Trump could (and would) blame him. 

    Trump's biggest folly (politically) in all this was prioritizing the economy over the virus. I get why he did it. From his perspective, his good economy was the best thing he had going and he didn't want to see it messed with. But shit happens and you have to adjust. That's what most of the real presidents have had to do when crisis or war happened. 

    There's another way to look at it.   The skillset needed to win an election isn't the same skillset needed to do the job.     Trump seems to have really enjoyed the campaigning aspect,  enjoyed working to get the gig, but doesn't really seem to want the actual job (just the prestige of saying he's the president).

    I think that's one of the negatives how elections are structured in democratic nations.   It's a weird process.
    There was discussion years ago that tRump didn't want to win in 2016 and didn't expect to win.  He was just in this to make his brand more valuable.  Instead I believe he has shown how worthless he is.

    His chud maga idiots don't have the money (or not enough of them do at least) to support his fat ass once he is out of office.

    He's fucked legally and financially.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    Zod said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Trump is fucked.  There is no coming back from this.  I hope I am wrong but I think the virus situation is going to get much worse and inevitably it will be October when influenza season starts as well.

    He simply cannot do anything reasonable that improves his approval %....nothing.  He's an absolute piece of shit and Lindsey Graham was right, he's going to take the party down with him and they will deserve it.
    Yeah I don't think there's anything Trump can do himself to improve his numbers. His only chance is to hope Biden fucks up. The only way that can happen is Biden picking the worst possible running mate he can, or if he bombs really, really bad in a debate. Even those probably won't be enough, but they could narrow the gap. 
    What's amazing is that Trump could likely improve his chances by taking the virus seriously....yet he just won't fucking do it.  
    In a perverse way, the pandemic (or any disaster) really is an opportunity to solidify yourself as a leader fairly easily. Look at any Governor who completely bungled their state's response but has sky high approval ratings because they went on tv and gave daily updates. Hell, we all thought Rudy Giuliani was basically Teddy Roosevelt at one point. It takes real effort to blow it like Trump.
    While it's a difficult thing to navigate, there's no doubt that the virus was a hanging curveball for him.  He had the chance to be a leader but he failed.  He shows us what he values, time and again.  And it's not us.  
    And he had Fauci out in front ready to be the face of the gov't response....instead tRump silences him.  Just fucking yesterday tRump said that Fauci wasn't always right and was "wrong a lot"....really fucking weird.
    Another good point, and proof that while Trump was a pretty good politician for a hot-minute there in 2016, it all seems like a fluke now. Fauci was a godsend for him. The infection disease expert. Let him and his people handle it all. If they do well, that good. It would be perceived that Trump was right to let the experts do their thing. And if Fauci and his team fucked up, Trump could (and would) blame him. 

    Trump's biggest folly (politically) in all this was prioritizing the economy over the virus. I get why he did it. From his perspective, his good economy was the best thing he had going and he didn't want to see it messed with. But shit happens and you have to adjust. That's what most of the real presidents have had to do when crisis or war happened. 

    There's another way to look at it.   The skillset needed to win an election isn't the same skillset needed to do the job.     Trump seems to have really enjoyed the campaigning aspect,  enjoyed working to get the gig, but doesn't really seem to want the actual job (just the prestige of saying he's the president).

    I think that's one of the negatives how elections are structured in democratic nations.   It's a weird process.
    There was discussion years ago that tRump didn't want to win in 2016 and didn't expect to win.  He was just in this to make his brand more valuable.  Instead I believe he has shown how worthless he is.

    His chud maga idiots don't have the money (or not enough of them do at least) to support his fat ass once he is out of office.

    He's fucked legally and financially.
    There were times I thought he didn’t want to win.  Of course, much of that was based on the bizarre things he was say before aI realized just how nuts he is.

     Now?  I am sure he knows his life would be better without the job but his ego won’t allow it.  
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Zod said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Trump is fucked.  There is no coming back from this.  I hope I am wrong but I think the virus situation is going to get much worse and inevitably it will be October when influenza season starts as well.

    He simply cannot do anything reasonable that improves his approval %....nothing.  He's an absolute piece of shit and Lindsey Graham was right, he's going to take the party down with him and they will deserve it.
    Yeah I don't think there's anything Trump can do himself to improve his numbers. His only chance is to hope Biden fucks up. The only way that can happen is Biden picking the worst possible running mate he can, or if he bombs really, really bad in a debate. Even those probably won't be enough, but they could narrow the gap. 
    What's amazing is that Trump could likely improve his chances by taking the virus seriously....yet he just won't fucking do it.  
    In a perverse way, the pandemic (or any disaster) really is an opportunity to solidify yourself as a leader fairly easily. Look at any Governor who completely bungled their state's response but has sky high approval ratings because they went on tv and gave daily updates. Hell, we all thought Rudy Giuliani was basically Teddy Roosevelt at one point. It takes real effort to blow it like Trump.
    While it's a difficult thing to navigate, there's no doubt that the virus was a hanging curveball for him.  He had the chance to be a leader but he failed.  He shows us what he values, time and again.  And it's not us.  
    And he had Fauci out in front ready to be the face of the gov't response....instead tRump silences him.  Just fucking yesterday tRump said that Fauci wasn't always right and was "wrong a lot"....really fucking weird.
    Another good point, and proof that while Trump was a pretty good politician for a hot-minute there in 2016, it all seems like a fluke now. Fauci was a godsend for him. The infection disease expert. Let him and his people handle it all. If they do well, that good. It would be perceived that Trump was right to let the experts do their thing. And if Fauci and his team fucked up, Trump could (and would) blame him. 

    Trump's biggest folly (politically) in all this was prioritizing the economy over the virus. I get why he did it. From his perspective, his good economy was the best thing he had going and he didn't want to see it messed with. But shit happens and you have to adjust. That's what most of the real presidents have had to do when crisis or war happened. 

    There's another way to look at it.   The skillset needed to win an election isn't the same skillset needed to do the job.     Trump seems to have really enjoyed the campaigning aspect,  enjoyed working to get the gig, but doesn't really seem to want the actual job (just the prestige of saying he's the president).

    I think that's one of the negatives how elections are structured in democratic nations.   It's a weird process.
    There was discussion years ago that tRump didn't want to win in 2016 and didn't expect to win.  He was just in this to make his brand more valuable.  Instead I believe he has shown how worthless he is.

    His chud maga idiots don't have the money (or not enough of them do at least) to support his fat ass once he is out of office.

    He's fucked legally and financially.
    There were times I thought he didn’t want to win.  Of course, much of that was based on the bizarre things he was say before aI realized just how nuts he is.

     Now?  I am sure he knows his life would be better without the job but his ego won’t allow it.  
    Or he realizes that he is legally fucked as soon as he leaves office.  Mueller is going to haunt him.
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  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Biden
    Zod said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Trump is fucked.  There is no coming back from this.  I hope I am wrong but I think the virus situation is going to get much worse and inevitably it will be October when influenza season starts as well.

    He simply cannot do anything reasonable that improves his approval %....nothing.  He's an absolute piece of shit and Lindsey Graham was right, he's going to take the party down with him and they will deserve it.
    Yeah I don't think there's anything Trump can do himself to improve his numbers. His only chance is to hope Biden fucks up. The only way that can happen is Biden picking the worst possible running mate he can, or if he bombs really, really bad in a debate. Even those probably won't be enough, but they could narrow the gap. 
    What's amazing is that Trump could likely improve his chances by taking the virus seriously....yet he just won't fucking do it.  
    In a perverse way, the pandemic (or any disaster) really is an opportunity to solidify yourself as a leader fairly easily. Look at any Governor who completely bungled their state's response but has sky high approval ratings because they went on tv and gave daily updates. Hell, we all thought Rudy Giuliani was basically Teddy Roosevelt at one point. It takes real effort to blow it like Trump.
    While it's a difficult thing to navigate, there's no doubt that the virus was a hanging curveball for him.  He had the chance to be a leader but he failed.  He shows us what he values, time and again.  And it's not us.  
    And he had Fauci out in front ready to be the face of the gov't response....instead tRump silences him.  Just fucking yesterday tRump said that Fauci wasn't always right and was "wrong a lot"....really fucking weird.
    Another good point, and proof that while Trump was a pretty good politician for a hot-minute there in 2016, it all seems like a fluke now. Fauci was a godsend for him. The infection disease expert. Let him and his people handle it all. If they do well, that good. It would be perceived that Trump was right to let the experts do their thing. And if Fauci and his team fucked up, Trump could (and would) blame him. 

    Trump's biggest folly (politically) in all this was prioritizing the economy over the virus. I get why he did it. From his perspective, his good economy was the best thing he had going and he didn't want to see it messed with. But shit happens and you have to adjust. That's what most of the real presidents have had to do when crisis or war happened. 

    There's another way to look at it.   The skillset needed to win an election isn't the same skillset needed to do the job.     Trump seems to have really enjoyed the campaigning aspect,  enjoyed working to get the gig, but doesn't really seem to want the actual job (just the prestige of saying he's the president).

    I think that's one of the negatives how elections are structured in democratic nations.   It's a weird process.
    He had no idea what the job actually was. Unlikely he fully understands it even today.
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    JimmyV said:
    Zod said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    mrussel1 said:
    pjl44 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Trump is fucked.  There is no coming back from this.  I hope I am wrong but I think the virus situation is going to get much worse and inevitably it will be October when influenza season starts as well.

    He simply cannot do anything reasonable that improves his approval %....nothing.  He's an absolute piece of shit and Lindsey Graham was right, he's going to take the party down with him and they will deserve it.
    Yeah I don't think there's anything Trump can do himself to improve his numbers. His only chance is to hope Biden fucks up. The only way that can happen is Biden picking the worst possible running mate he can, or if he bombs really, really bad in a debate. Even those probably won't be enough, but they could narrow the gap. 
    What's amazing is that Trump could likely improve his chances by taking the virus seriously....yet he just won't fucking do it.  
    In a perverse way, the pandemic (or any disaster) really is an opportunity to solidify yourself as a leader fairly easily. Look at any Governor who completely bungled their state's response but has sky high approval ratings because they went on tv and gave daily updates. Hell, we all thought Rudy Giuliani was basically Teddy Roosevelt at one point. It takes real effort to blow it like Trump.
    While it's a difficult thing to navigate, there's no doubt that the virus was a hanging curveball for him.  He had the chance to be a leader but he failed.  He shows us what he values, time and again.  And it's not us.  
    And he had Fauci out in front ready to be the face of the gov't response....instead tRump silences him.  Just fucking yesterday tRump said that Fauci wasn't always right and was "wrong a lot"....really fucking weird.
    Another good point, and proof that while Trump was a pretty good politician for a hot-minute there in 2016, it all seems like a fluke now. Fauci was a godsend for him. The infection disease expert. Let him and his people handle it all. If they do well, that good. It would be perceived that Trump was right to let the experts do their thing. And if Fauci and his team fucked up, Trump could (and would) blame him. 

    Trump's biggest folly (politically) in all this was prioritizing the economy over the virus. I get why he did it. From his perspective, his good economy was the best thing he had going and he didn't want to see it messed with. But shit happens and you have to adjust. That's what most of the real presidents have had to do when crisis or war happened. 

    There's another way to look at it.   The skillset needed to win an election isn't the same skillset needed to do the job.     Trump seems to have really enjoyed the campaigning aspect,  enjoyed working to get the gig, but doesn't really seem to want the actual job (just the prestige of saying he's the president).

    I think that's one of the negatives how elections are structured in democratic nations.   It's a weird process.
    He had no idea what the job actually was. Unlikely he fully understands it even today.
    I’m sure he thought it was much closer to dictator than it is.  I knew coming in that he’d struggle with the slow speed, bureaucracy, and push back as a result of a lifetime of yes-men giving him instant gratification.  He definitely likes the novelty of being president more than the job.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    Biden
    His photo op of walking around that corner with his mask on, followed by all of the military officers was pretty telling.  He probably orchestrated that himself.
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  • PJNB
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    edited July 2020
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/07/12/joe-biden-builds-lead-over-donald-trump-in-reliably-red-texas-as-voters-sour-on-handling-of-virus/

    Former Vice President Joe Biden has built a five-point lead over President Donald Trump in Texas as unease over Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic mounts, a new Dallas Morning News/University of Texas at Tyler poll has found.

    Biden had 46% support to Trump’s 41%. If the general election were held today, the outcome could depend on the 14% of voters who were undecided or named someone else.

    Biden’s lead, which comes after he and Trump were tied 43%-43% in The News and UT-Tyler’s April survey, is significant, if barely: The poll, conducted June 29 through July 7, has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.24 percentage points.

    The story behind Biden’s slight bulge is the softening of the Republican incumbent’s support among independents and “weak partisans,” said Kenneth Bryant Jr., a UT-Tyler political scientist who helped design the poll.

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,821
    Biden
    PJNB said:
    https://www.dallasnews.com/news/public-health/2020/07/12/joe-biden-builds-lead-over-donald-trump-in-reliably-red-texas-as-voters-sour-on-handling-of-virus/

    Former Vice President Joe Biden has built a five-point lead over President Donald Trump in Texas as unease over Trump’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic mounts, a new Dallas Morning News/University of Texas at Tyler poll has found.

    Biden had 46% support to Trump’s 41%. If the general election were held today, the outcome could depend on the 14% of voters who were undecided or named someone else.

    Biden’s lead, which comes after he and Trump were tied 43%-43% in The News and UT-Tyler’s April survey, is significant, if barely: The poll, conducted June 29 through July 7, has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.24 percentage points.

    The story behind Biden’s slight bulge is the softening of the Republican incumbent’s support among independents and “weak partisans,” said Kenneth Bryant Jr., a UT-Tyler political scientist who helped design the poll.

    I could do without references to Biden’s “slight bulge”
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    Biden
    I can't believe all the "Biden is a pedophile" shit I am seeing on tiktok, etc.  People are fucking insane.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
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    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Gern Blansten said:
    I can't believe all the "Biden is a pedophile" shit I am seeing on tiktok, etc.  People are fucking insane.
    They are getting desperate with the numbers rolling in. It is only going to get worse sadly. 
  • Bentleyspop
    Bentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 11,397
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    I can't believe all the "Biden is a pedophile" shit I am seeing on tiktok, etc.  People are fucking insane.
    Isnt Tiktok a chinese government site for teenagers?
  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    Gern Blansten said:
    I can't believe all the "Biden is a pedophile" shit I am seeing on tiktok, etc.  People are fucking insane.
    One of the best ways to troll Biden is on his creepiness.  But you’d think that would be nullified by Trump’s Miss Teen USA shenanigans.  Not to mention his crush on Ivanka.
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    Biden
    Bentleyspop said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    I can't believe all the "Biden is a pedophile" shit I am seeing on tiktok, etc.  People are fucking insane.
    Isnt Tiktok a chinese government site for teenagers?
    It's actually pretty entertaining but as it has grown in popularity it has been taken over with political shit.  Trump supporters seem to have the slight edge but there is a lot of Biden support on there as well.
    Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
    The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)

    1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
    2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
    2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
    2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
    2020: Oakland, Oakland:  2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
    2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
    2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
  • Vitalogensia
    Vitalogensia Posts: 2,196
    Biden
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    Biden
    Vitalogensia said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Vitalogensia said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 

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