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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Biden
    It's easy to talk about Democrats fucking this up - and I do understand the concern - but the fact remains, no matter what the polls say right now, 63 million Republican voters are more likely to come home and vote for the GOP nominee than they are to do anything else. 
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,038
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


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  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 16,991
    edited July 2020
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    Biden
    I'll never tire of that video
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    Discrediting Fauci and retweeting Chuck Woolery can't be good for business. Can't be good for anything, really...


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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,610
    Biden
    Discrediting Fauci and retweeting Chuck Woolery can't be good for business. Can't be good for anything, really...


    Very subtle Seinfeld reference?
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    OnWis97 said:
    Discrediting Fauci and retweeting Chuck Woolery can't be good for business. Can't be good for anything, really...


    Very subtle Seinfeld reference?
    But of course!
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  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,153
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....If Biden wins FL it will be an early night.
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  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....If Biden wins FL it will be an early night.
    I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna know who wins for a few days with so many people trying to vote by mail...

    I think that's gonna be a brutal day/week
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....If Biden wins FL it will be an early night.
    I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna know who wins for a few days with so many people trying to vote by mail...

    I think that's gonna be a brutal day/week
    Yeah, it's going to take forever. Plenty of time for everyone to get paranoid.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....If Biden wins FL it will be an early night.
    I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna know who wins for a few days with so many people trying to vote by mail...

    I think that's gonna be a brutal day/week
    Yeah, it's going to take forever. Plenty of time for everyone to get paranoid.
    I am dreading that it will feel like that election day in House of Cards
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....If Biden wins FL it will be an early night.
    I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna know who wins for a few days with so many people trying to vote by mail...

    I think that's gonna be a brutal day/week
    Yeah, it's going to take forever. Plenty of time for everyone to get paranoid.
    I am dreading that it will feel like that election day in House of Cards
    You'll have to remind me. I think I saw the first 4(?) seasons. It's crazy how little I remember about that show.
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....If Biden wins FL it will be an early night.
    I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna know who wins for a few days with so many people trying to vote by mail...

    I think that's gonna be a brutal day/week
    Yeah, it's going to take forever. Plenty of time for everyone to get paranoid.
    I am dreading that it will feel like that election day in House of Cards
    You'll have to remind me. I think I saw the first 4(?) seasons. It's crazy how little I remember about that show.
    My memory is foggy too, because that season was mostly garbage .
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Biden
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....
    And that’s with Hillary being as loathsome a Democrat you can put on a ballot in Texas, coupled with the “unknown” of what a Trump presidency would be. Now, with a more likable Biden on the ballot, and four years of “President” Trump, Texas is ready to flip. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....If Biden wins FL it will be an early night.
    I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna know who wins for a few days with so many people trying to vote by mail...

    I think that's gonna be a brutal day/week
    Yeah, it's going to take forever. Plenty of time for everyone to get paranoid.
    I am dreading that it will feel like that election day in House of Cards
    You'll have to remind me. I think I saw the first 4(?) seasons. It's crazy how little I remember about that show.
    My memory is foggy too, because that season was mostly garbage .
    https://www.vulture.com/2017/06/house-of-cards-2016-election-explained.html
    Holy cow...I'm glad I bailed. Yeah, at a bare minimum I think it's probably gonna take at least a week to count all the mail-in votes. The only way we might have a decision early is a Biden landslide. No matter who loses, I expect that they and their surrogates will carry on that it has been stolen. It's gonna be soul-crushing and (at much lower stakes) this place will be insufferable. 
  • The Juggler
    The Juggler Posts: 49,590
    Biden
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....If Biden wins FL it will be an early night.
    I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna know who wins for a few days with so many people trying to vote by mail...

    I think that's gonna be a brutal day/week
    Yeah, it's going to take forever. Plenty of time for everyone to get paranoid.
    I am dreading that it will feel like that election day in House of Cards
    You'll have to remind me. I think I saw the first 4(?) seasons. It's crazy how little I remember about that show.
    My memory is foggy too, because that season was mostly garbage .
    https://www.vulture.com/2017/06/house-of-cards-2016-election-explained.html
    Holy cow...I'm glad I bailed. Yeah, at a bare minimum I think it's probably gonna take at least a week to count all the mail-in votes. The only way we might have a decision early is a Biden landslide. No matter who loses, I expect that they and their surrogates will carry on that it has been stolen. It's gonna be soul-crushing and (at much lower stakes) this place will be insufferable. 
    It’s a weird feeling. I’m simultaneously super anxiously looking forward and dreading it at the same time. 
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    pjl44 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Before COVID, I was sure Trump would win reelection, handily.  Now I'm not sure.  Reports look great and all, but it's hard for me to believe a country that would elect Trump to begin with could straighten up so quickly.  I'd really like to believe that Trump will lose, but I have a hard time not believing that Biden/Democrats won't fuck this up.  
    I think a horrible VP pick and/or bombing on the debate stage (like bad, to the point where he comes off as senile) are the only ways Biden can fuck this up. For an incumbent to have the numbers that Trump has is pretty telling. And as I've been saying since before the new year, I think Biden wins Texas. 
    You have been preaching Texas since the beginning.  If you're right,  I'm definitely sending you a bootleg or something as a congratulations for an excellent prediction. 
    Looking pretty good right now. And I can't fathom how Trump can improve, especially with Covid getting worse down there....


    Yeah I know,  and I know the state is changing,  but it feels like Arizona to me,  a state where we think we can win every cycle but come up short. I do think we win Arizona,  but also think we're still a cycle or two from Texas.  I hope you're right. 
    Well my prediction leans more on Trump himself than the Texas changing. Though I agree that both are a factor. Beto's narrow defeat to Cruz being a good indicator. So we have...

    -A changing Texas as you pointed out.

    -Trump only beat Hillary 52% to 43% in 2016. Romney beat Obama in 2012 57% to 41%. 

    -Residual distain for Trump for his disrespect towards the Bush family (even Barbara).

    -The virus is getting out-of-control down there. 

    -I don't think they're fooled by Trump down there. They gave him a chance in 2016 because he was the Republican, but as a great Texas once said.....

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKgPY1adc0A

    Well you know what he's trying to say!
    I didn't realize the tRump/Clinton spread was only 9%....If Biden wins FL it will be an early night.
    I don't think so. I don't think we're gonna know who wins for a few days with so many people trying to vote by mail...

    I think that's gonna be a brutal day/week
    Yeah, it's going to take forever. Plenty of time for everyone to get paranoid.
    I am dreading that it will feel like that election day in House of Cards
    You'll have to remind me. I think I saw the first 4(?) seasons. It's crazy how little I remember about that show.
    My memory is foggy too, because that season was mostly garbage .
    https://www.vulture.com/2017/06/house-of-cards-2016-election-explained.html
    Holy cow...I'm glad I bailed. Yeah, at a bare minimum I think it's probably gonna take at least a week to count all the mail-in votes. The only way we might have a decision early is a Biden landslide. No matter who loses, I expect that they and their surrogates will carry on that it has been stolen. It's gonna be soul-crushing and (at much lower stakes) this place will be insufferable. 
    It’s a weird feeling. I’m simultaneously super anxiously looking forward and dreading it at the same time. 
    I'm more the latter. I'd love to be wrong but I don't see a scenario where the loser graciously accepts defeat. I don't think there's going to be a coup or anything but I think a significant portion of the country is going to believe it was stolen regardless of who wins.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    I'm sitting this one out
    Aggressively polarized electorate + Unfamiliar voting process + General lack of competence at state and local election boards = Hold on to your hats