Wondering why tour hasn't been canceled ?

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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    JPPJ84 said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    just_one said:
    evenflow82 said:
    12-18 months until vaccine, then distribution and inoculation to all seven billion people on earth.  I hate to say this, but probably no shows until 2022 at the earliest. 
    being married to a molecular biologist , i would say pretty much this unless some kind of drug that is not a vaccine is discovered and even with that...
    You guys really think it's going to be TWO years before these shows happen?  
    Been thinking about this for a while. Without a vaccine or effective drugs I don’t see mass gatherings happen :s
    Going by this logic, with everything shut down for the next two years, it won't matter about concerts/sports/ or just about anything in 2022 because of the financial ruin the world will be in. 

    Will also be impressive to see the entire human race inoculated for the first time in history 
    ...got a mind full of questions and a teacher in my soul...
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,304
    edited April 2020
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    just_one said:
    evenflow82 said:
    12-18 months until vaccine, then distribution and inoculation to all seven billion people on earth.  I hate to say this, but probably no shows until 2022 at the earliest. 
    being married to a molecular biologist , i would say pretty much this unless some kind of drug that is not a vaccine is discovered and even with that...
    You guys really think it's going to be TWO years before these shows happen?  
    what people have to understand is that our way of living in this planet pretty much changed and until all of goes way (when a vaccine is found) huge gathering of people will be very hard to pull off if not IMPOSSIBLE , you just dont know who is infected and who is not unless that person shows synthomps. all shows for 2020(for any big band) are 100% for sure cancelled. In mid-2021 we are all hopefull that by then a vaccine is found and put on mass production , to be 100% honest THAT is the best case scenario!

    Usually when a vaccine is found (for any kind of disease) there are a shitload of procedures/approvals that have to be done before it even goes for mass production and these take a very long time (sometimes well over a year) and these are procedures you cant jump ahead or something like that.
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,304
    PJNB said:
    I definitely think we will see sports and concerts in the fall. 
    no you wont. unfortunally
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 98,308
    just_one said:
    PJNB said:
    I definitely think we will see sports and concerts in the fall. 
    no you wont. unfortunally

    I don't think either. I don't see any sporting events or concerts happening till 2021. Too much of a risk.
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    just_one said:
    PJNB said:
    I definitely think we will see sports and concerts in the fall. 
    no you wont. unfortunally
    Yes we will. Fortunately. 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 16,049
    just_one said:
    evenflow82 said:
    12-18 months until vaccine, then distribution and inoculation to all seven billion people on earth.  I hate to say this, but probably no shows until 2022 at the earliest. 
    being married to a molecular biologist , i would say pretty much this unless some kind of drug that is not a vaccine is discovered and even with that...

    Is anyone here a molecular biologist?!??
    Is anyone here a marine biologist seinfeld

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  • CROJAM95
    CROJAM95 NEW YORK Posts: 11,170
    man, can you imagine all these snake oil preachers who cant have their clergy *** coughs victims*** show up in these warehouse like mega churches til then, OHHH Lordy we should have a special COPS television program dedicated to the likes being arrested while defying local/state/ federal social distancing......now that would be entertainment
  • just_one
    just_one Lisbon Posts: 2,304
    on2legs said:
    just_one said:
    evenflow82 said:
    12-18 months until vaccine, then distribution and inoculation to all seven billion people on earth.  I hate to say this, but probably no shows until 2022 at the earliest. 
    being married to a molecular biologist , i would say pretty much this unless some kind of drug that is not a vaccine is discovered and even with that...

    Is anyone here a molecular biologist?!??
    Is anyone here a marine biologist seinfeld

    My wife 
  • Spartanacus
    Spartanacus Oviedo, FL Posts: 941
    PJNB said:
    just_one said:
    PJNB said:
    I definitely think we will see sports and concerts in the fall. 
    no you wont. unfortunally
    Yes we will. Fortunately. 
    I like the optimism.  This is not The Black Death of the 1300's people.  Yes, the old and the unhealthy will need to be very cautious...but with 7.7+ billion people on Earth, life (and death) must go on.  Are humans really that stupid to think that we should all breed like rabbits, all live to 100 years old, and be able to keep buying all of this plastic worthless crap from China, only to ruin the environment by overpopulating the Earth? 

    Yes, if this thing was killing ANY human being indiscriminately, we'd have a very very big problem, and of course sports and concerts would have to stop...but that just isn't happening.  There are a lot of very sad (and very media publicized) exceptions that keep people afraid, but the overwhelming majority of deaths are older people or people with underlying conditions (many of whom probably didn't even know they had underlying conditions).
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,945
    just_one said:
    iOnlyownMymind said:
    just_one said:
    evenflow82 said:
    12-18 months until vaccine, then distribution and inoculation to all seven billion people on earth.  I hate to say this, but probably no shows until 2022 at the earliest. 
    being married to a molecular biologist , i would say pretty much this unless some kind of drug that is not a vaccine is discovered and even with that...
    You guys really think it's going to be TWO years before these shows happen?  
    what people have to understand is that our way of living in this planet pretty much changed and until all of goes way (when a vaccine is found) huge gathering of people will be very hard to pull off if not IMPOSSIBLE , you just dont know who is infected and who is not unless that person shows synthomps. all shows for 2020(for any big band) are 100% for sure cancelled. In mid-2021 we are all hopefull that by then a vaccine is found and put on mass production , to be 100% honest THAT is the best case scenario!

    Usually when a vaccine is found (for any kind of disease) there are a shitload of procedures/approvals that have to be done before it even goes for mass production and these take a very long time (sometimes well over a year) and these are procedures you cant jump ahead or something like that.
    I'm not quite convinced.

    Mass gathering's aren't the only way this thing spreads.   The whole reason countries are on lockdowns and businesses are closed is to prevent the spread.   You can only pay people to stay at home for so long.    If a solution isn't found within a few months, I think there's going to be more talk about re-opening the economy regardless.  Of which the virus will end up spreading around as soon as businesses reopen and people go back to work.  After that it might not matter so much any more?

    Another issue will be mutation of the virus.   Flu and Colds constantly mutate.  It's why we get them over and over again.  COVID might do the same thing.   The world can't afford to lockdown for months on end every time there's a new outbreak.

    If it becomes a constant thing, maybe we'll see temperature scans entering venues.  Anyone with a fever can't enter kind of thing? 
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,315
    Spartanacus said:
    PJNB said:
    just_one said:
    PJNB said:
    I definitely think we will see sports and concerts in the fall. 
    no you wont. unfortunally
    Yes we will. Fortunately. 
    I like the optimism.  This is not The Black Death of the 1300's people.  Yes, the old and the unhealthy will need to be very cautious...but with 7.7+ billion people on Earth, life (and death) must go on.  Are humans really that stupid to think that we should all breed like rabbits, all live to 100 years old, and be able to keep buying all of this plastic worthless crap from China, only to ruin the environment by overpopulating the Earth? 

    Yes, if this thing was killing ANY human being indiscriminately, we'd have a very very big problem, and of course sports and concerts would have to stop...but that just isn't happening.  There are a lot of very sad (and very media publicized) exceptions that keep people afraid, but the overwhelming majority of deaths are older people or people with underlying conditions (many of whom probably didn't even know they had underlying conditions).
    Sports and concerts have stopped. Do you really want to take the chance that you'll be one of the exceptions? And there are millions of old and at-risk people -- who cares if they get infected? 
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,995
    on2legs said:
    just_one said:
    evenflow82 said:
    12-18 months until vaccine, then distribution and inoculation to all seven billion people on earth.  I hate to say this, but probably no shows until 2022 at the earliest. 
    being married to a molecular biologist , i would say pretty much this unless some kind of drug that is not a vaccine is discovered and even with that...

    Is anyone here a molecular biologist?!??
    Is anyone here a marine biologist seinfeld

    LOL!!!!!!!! YES GUY!!!!!!!
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    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,086
    what's a temp. scan going to do for all the asymptomatic people?  that could be up to 50%
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    edited April 2020
    PD279656 said:
    Wow some real drama queens on here. 

    Stop taking the news and the politcians at their word. It's two entities driven by ratings and votes. There's zero accountability in the news and a politician can never get in trouble for being overly conservative on his projections. 

    Everywhere you look projections are coming down from the doom and gloom. In my state which is PA we are seeing a dramatic decrease in hospitalizations and looking at no shortages on anything. You think thats a coincidence? The plan is working and its something to be optimistic about. 

    There will be major events this year. May not be a Pearl Jam concert do to scheduling issues but people will be back at major events such as the NFL in 2020. 

    Remember in 2016 when the election was going on and everyday was about unarmed shootings by cops all over the country. Then after the election you never heard about it again?  

    Just remember it's an election year and it's the most powerful seat in the world. 
    This seems drama in and of itself. 

    What makes you think that anyone here is taking politicians or news "at their word".  If you go by history, previous large outbreaks, and by what the experts are saying, its pretty clear this is a long term issue. It's just going to cycle back up for more outbreaks when people stop extreme measures, until we get some herd immunity with vaccines and possible antibody immunity from those who survived it. 

    By the way PA is seeing sharper increases. They have now surpassed Illinois, which was in the top 5, in terms of Totay cases.  And day by day, PA's new cases are increasing.   

    Personally, I dont see how the NFL will return with full events for 2020.  I hope I am wrong, but my guess is no major sports for the rest of 2020.  
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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    One more graph on Pennsylvania...


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  • Vedd Hedd
    Vedd Hedd Posts: 4,633
    I know that Philly was locked down pretty quick, but the state was a few days behind Illinois in mandating a Shelter-in-Place order. Illinois has not plateaued yet, so I dont expect Philly to, either.  Chicago has a much larger main city, but PA has 2 major ones.  
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  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,041
    you people are nuts if you think sports and businesses will be shut down until 2022.  not unless you want  a worldwide depression. there will have to be solutions to get people back to work even if this thing continues on. 
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,086
    Getting back to work slowly and safely and having mass gatherings are 2 very different things. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • pjhawks
    pjhawks Posts: 13,041
    ComeToTX said:
    Getting back to work slowly and safely and having mass gatherings are 2 very different things. 

    ill bet there will be full NFL, college football and Euro league soccer stadiums in 2020.
  • BF89905
    BF89905 Posts: 1,449
    ComeToTX said:
    Getting back to work slowly and safely and having mass gatherings are 2 very different things. 
    I agree with you. Unfortunately, I think capitalism will prevail at some point. The rich and big businesses will be made whole again, and the rest of us will be subjected to tax hikes when this recedes. 

    I'd be shocked if the band goes to Europe this summer.  

    I don't think there will be any large events the rest of this year.

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