*** DONALD J TRUMP HAS OFFICIALLY BEEN IMPEACHED FOR A SECOND TIME *** (392 days after the first)
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2023
Trump was engaging in extortion. He had no legal right to withhold those funds, as they were already appropriated by Congress. And to withhold them using Burisma/Biden conspiracy theories as the quid-pro-quo makes it worse, because it now becomes soliciting help from a foreign government for a domestic political campaign in violation of federal campaign laws. Trump was the instigator, and the actor, and after the fact the one doing the lying and obstruction.tempo_n_groove said:
No, my head isn't up my ass.The Juggler said:
Yeah, sure. Compromising our national security pales in comparison to breaking into an opponent's campaign headquarters in a campaign they were going to win by a landslide. Of course what Trump did was worse.josevolution said:
lol yeah oktempo_n_groove said:
Stop it...Go Beavers said:
It was worse.tempo_n_groove said:
I don't see how what Trump did was even remotely close to what Nixon did.Ledbetterman10 said:
With the partisanship, he could probably murder someone and be acquitted in a Senate trial. These aren't the Republicans that were willing to remove Nixon.tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't see it warranted the first time around so not so sure it would be the 2nd time either.The Juggler said:
If it warrants it, it must be done.tempo_n_groove said:Is it wise to try and impeach him again?
Find something that is concrete this time.
People continue to have their heads in the sand.
National security? I thought Trump asked for a "quid pro quo"? A favor, an abuse of power? I don't see where our national security was at risk from this? Ukraine was still going on with security despite not having a payment made to them. They were still doing what was asked.
Think about what you said, "breaking into an opponents headquarters". The President acted like a mob boss and had people break in.
Again, this is just me as I know most of you think it was the end of the world.
Nixon was not the instigator. Nixon was not in on the deed. Nixon was part of the cover-up. So yes, Trump was in it way deeper than Nixon, who only played a role after the fact."I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/080 -
2021
otempo_n_groove said:
No, my head isn't up my ass.The Juggler said:
Yeah, sure. Compromising our national security pales in comparison to breaking into an opponent's campaign headquarters in a campaign they were going to win by a landslide. Of course what Trump did was worse.josevolution said:
lol yeah oktempo_n_groove said:
Stop it...Go Beavers said:
It was worse.tempo_n_groove said:
I don't see how what Trump did was even remotely close to what Nixon did.Ledbetterman10 said:
With the partisanship, he could probably murder someone and be acquitted in a Senate trial. These aren't the Republicans that were willing to remove Nixon.tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't see it warranted the first time around so not so sure it would be the 2nd time either.The Juggler said:
If it warrants it, it must be done.tempo_n_groove said:Is it wise to try and impeach him again?
Find something that is concrete this time.
People continue to have their heads in the sand.
National security? I thought Trump asked for a "quid pro quo"? A favor, an abuse of power? I don't see where our national security was at risk from this? Ukraine was still going on with security despite not having a payment made to them. They were still doing what was asked.
Think about what you said, "breaking into an opponents headquarters". The President acted like a mob boss and had people break in.
Again, this is just me as I know most of you think it was the end of the world.
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Boggles my mind how people can come away with this kind of take. Unfuckingreal.
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2021
Thank you. I don't have the energy to argue this same point over and over and over again.jeffbr said:
Trump was engaging in extortion. He had no legal right to withhold those funds, as they were already appropriated by Congress. And to withhold them using Burisma/Biden conspiracy theories as the quid-pro-quo makes it worse, because it now becomes soliciting help from a foreign government for a domestic political campaign in violation of federal campaign laws. Trump was the instigator, and the actor, and after the fact the one doing the lying and obstruction.tempo_n_groove said:
No, my head isn't up my ass.The Juggler said:
Yeah, sure. Compromising our national security pales in comparison to breaking into an opponent's campaign headquarters in a campaign they were going to win by a landslide. Of course what Trump did was worse.josevolution said:
lol yeah oktempo_n_groove said:
Stop it...Go Beavers said:
It was worse.tempo_n_groove said:
I don't see how what Trump did was even remotely close to what Nixon did.Ledbetterman10 said:
With the partisanship, he could probably murder someone and be acquitted in a Senate trial. These aren't the Republicans that were willing to remove Nixon.tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't see it warranted the first time around so not so sure it would be the 2nd time either.The Juggler said:
If it warrants it, it must be done.tempo_n_groove said:Is it wise to try and impeach him again?
Find something that is concrete this time.
People continue to have their heads in the sand.
National security? I thought Trump asked for a "quid pro quo"? A favor, an abuse of power? I don't see where our national security was at risk from this? Ukraine was still going on with security despite not having a payment made to them. They were still doing what was asked.
Think about what you said, "breaking into an opponents headquarters". The President acted like a mob boss and had people break in.
Again, this is just me as I know most of you think it was the end of the world.
Nixon was not the instigator. Nixon was not in on the deed. Nixon was part of the cover-up. So yes, Trump was in it way deeper than Nixon, who only played a role after the fact.www.myspace.com0 -
2023
I keep giving you the same damn answer so I guess we can agree to disagree.The Juggler said:
Thank you. I don't have the energy to argue this same point over and over and over again.jeffbr said:
Trump was engaging in extortion. He had no legal right to withhold those funds, as they were already appropriated by Congress. And to withhold them using Burisma/Biden conspiracy theories as the quid-pro-quo makes it worse, because it now becomes soliciting help from a foreign government for a domestic political campaign in violation of federal campaign laws. Trump was the instigator, and the actor, and after the fact the one doing the lying and obstruction.tempo_n_groove said:
No, my head isn't up my ass.The Juggler said:
Yeah, sure. Compromising our national security pales in comparison to breaking into an opponent's campaign headquarters in a campaign they were going to win by a landslide. Of course what Trump did was worse.josevolution said:
lol yeah oktempo_n_groove said:
Stop it...Go Beavers said:
It was worse.tempo_n_groove said:
I don't see how what Trump did was even remotely close to what Nixon did.Ledbetterman10 said:
With the partisanship, he could probably murder someone and be acquitted in a Senate trial. These aren't the Republicans that were willing to remove Nixon.tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't see it warranted the first time around so not so sure it would be the 2nd time either.The Juggler said:
If it warrants it, it must be done.tempo_n_groove said:Is it wise to try and impeach him again?
Find something that is concrete this time.
People continue to have their heads in the sand.
National security? I thought Trump asked for a "quid pro quo"? A favor, an abuse of power? I don't see where our national security was at risk from this? Ukraine was still going on with security despite not having a payment made to them. They were still doing what was asked.
Think about what you said, "breaking into an opponents headquarters". The President acted like a mob boss and had people break in.
Again, this is just me as I know most of you think it was the end of the world.
Nixon was not the instigator. Nixon was not in on the deed. Nixon was part of the cover-up. So yes, Trump was in it way deeper than Nixon, who only played a role after the fact.0 -
2023
Well then this makes Trump a friggin genius since he knew he'd be running against Biden...jeffbr said:
Trump was engaging in extortion. He had no legal right to withhold those funds, as they were already appropriated by Congress. And to withhold them using Burisma/Biden conspiracy theories as the quid-pro-quo makes it worse, because it now becomes soliciting help from a foreign government for a domestic political campaign in violation of federal campaign laws. Trump was the instigator, and the actor, and after the fact the one doing the lying and obstruction.tempo_n_groove said:
No, my head isn't up my ass.The Juggler said:
Yeah, sure. Compromising our national security pales in comparison to breaking into an opponent's campaign headquarters in a campaign they were going to win by a landslide. Of course what Trump did was worse.josevolution said:
lol yeah oktempo_n_groove said:
Stop it...Go Beavers said:
It was worse.tempo_n_groove said:
I don't see how what Trump did was even remotely close to what Nixon did.Ledbetterman10 said:
With the partisanship, he could probably murder someone and be acquitted in a Senate trial. These aren't the Republicans that were willing to remove Nixon.tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't see it warranted the first time around so not so sure it would be the 2nd time either.The Juggler said:
If it warrants it, it must be done.tempo_n_groove said:Is it wise to try and impeach him again?
Find something that is concrete this time.
People continue to have their heads in the sand.
National security? I thought Trump asked for a "quid pro quo"? A favor, an abuse of power? I don't see where our national security was at risk from this? Ukraine was still going on with security despite not having a payment made to them. They were still doing what was asked.
Think about what you said, "breaking into an opponents headquarters". The President acted like a mob boss and had people break in.
Again, this is just me as I know most of you think it was the end of the world.
Nixon was not the instigator. Nixon was not in on the deed. Nixon was part of the cover-up. So yes, Trump was in it way deeper than Nixon, who only played a role after the fact.
I still don't see what he did as being impeachable.0 -
2023
He violated federal campaign laws, which by definition is illegal. He solicited foreign interference in an election. AND the GAO (the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office) issued a report in January 2020 saying that the withholding of funds was illegal.tempo_n_groove said:
Well then this makes Trump a friggin genius since he knew he'd be running against Biden...jeffbr said:
Trump was engaging in extortion. He had no legal right to withhold those funds, as they were already appropriated by Congress. And to withhold them using Burisma/Biden conspiracy theories as the quid-pro-quo makes it worse, because it now becomes soliciting help from a foreign government for a domestic political campaign in violation of federal campaign laws. Trump was the instigator, and the actor, and after the fact the one doing the lying and obstruction.tempo_n_groove said:
No, my head isn't up my ass.The Juggler said:
Yeah, sure. Compromising our national security pales in comparison to breaking into an opponent's campaign headquarters in a campaign they were going to win by a landslide. Of course what Trump did was worse.josevolution said:
lol yeah oktempo_n_groove said:
Stop it...Go Beavers said:
It was worse.tempo_n_groove said:
I don't see how what Trump did was even remotely close to what Nixon did.Ledbetterman10 said:
With the partisanship, he could probably murder someone and be acquitted in a Senate trial. These aren't the Republicans that were willing to remove Nixon.tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't see it warranted the first time around so not so sure it would be the 2nd time either.The Juggler said:
If it warrants it, it must be done.tempo_n_groove said:Is it wise to try and impeach him again?
Find something that is concrete this time.
People continue to have their heads in the sand.
National security? I thought Trump asked for a "quid pro quo"? A favor, an abuse of power? I don't see where our national security was at risk from this? Ukraine was still going on with security despite not having a payment made to them. They were still doing what was asked.
Think about what you said, "breaking into an opponents headquarters". The President acted like a mob boss and had people break in.
Again, this is just me as I know most of you think it was the end of the world.
Nixon was not the instigator. Nixon was not in on the deed. Nixon was part of the cover-up. So yes, Trump was in it way deeper than Nixon, who only played a role after the fact.
I still don't see what he did as being impeachable.The GOP said Trump committed no crime. The GAO now rules he broke the law.
"The Government Accountability Office ruled Thursday the Trump administration’s withholding of aid to Ukraine violated the law, because Trump can’t use his policy priorities to supersede the constitutional power of the purse that Congress enjoys.If Congress appropriates the money, essentially, Trump needs to have a very specific reason for withholding it, and the reasons supplied didn’t qualify.
In a nine-page report, GAO general counsel Thomas H. Armstrong delivers rebukes to Trump and his administration, saying it has failed to abide by the law, failed to substantiate its actions and failed to cooperate by providing the necessary documentation."
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lol yeah it’s absurd it’s like they want so badly to believe he’s a good guy when in fact he’s proven over & over again that he is a deplorable human!The Juggler said:
otempo_n_groove said:
No, my head isn't up my ass.The Juggler said:
Yeah, sure. Compromising our national security pales in comparison to breaking into an opponent's campaign headquarters in a campaign they were going to win by a landslide. Of course what Trump did was worse.josevolution said:
lol yeah oktempo_n_groove said:
Stop it...Go Beavers said:
It was worse.tempo_n_groove said:
I don't see how what Trump did was even remotely close to what Nixon did.Ledbetterman10 said:
With the partisanship, he could probably murder someone and be acquitted in a Senate trial. These aren't the Republicans that were willing to remove Nixon.tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't see it warranted the first time around so not so sure it would be the 2nd time either.The Juggler said:
If it warrants it, it must be done.tempo_n_groove said:Is it wise to try and impeach him again?
Find something that is concrete this time.
People continue to have their heads in the sand.
National security? I thought Trump asked for a "quid pro quo"? A favor, an abuse of power? I don't see where our national security was at risk from this? Ukraine was still going on with security despite not having a payment made to them. They were still doing what was asked.
Think about what you said, "breaking into an opponents headquarters". The President acted like a mob boss and had people break in.
Again, this is just me as I know most of you think it was the end of the world.
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Boggles my mind how people can come away with this kind of take. Unfuckingreal.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
2021
Also....quite obvious he did this because he DIDN'T want to run against Biden.....haha.......wtf?jeffbr said:
He violated federal campaign laws, which by definition is illegal. He solicited foreign interference in an election. AND the GAO (the nonpartisan Government Accountability Office) issued a report in January 2020 saying that the withholding of funds was illegal.tempo_n_groove said:
Well then this makes Trump a friggin genius since he knew he'd be running against Biden...jeffbr said:
Trump was engaging in extortion. He had no legal right to withhold those funds, as they were already appropriated by Congress. And to withhold them using Burisma/Biden conspiracy theories as the quid-pro-quo makes it worse, because it now becomes soliciting help from a foreign government for a domestic political campaign in violation of federal campaign laws. Trump was the instigator, and the actor, and after the fact the one doing the lying and obstruction.tempo_n_groove said:
No, my head isn't up my ass.The Juggler said:
Yeah, sure. Compromising our national security pales in comparison to breaking into an opponent's campaign headquarters in a campaign they were going to win by a landslide. Of course what Trump did was worse.josevolution said:
lol yeah oktempo_n_groove said:
Stop it...Go Beavers said:
It was worse.tempo_n_groove said:
I don't see how what Trump did was even remotely close to what Nixon did.Ledbetterman10 said:
With the partisanship, he could probably murder someone and be acquitted in a Senate trial. These aren't the Republicans that were willing to remove Nixon.tempo_n_groove said:
I didn't see it warranted the first time around so not so sure it would be the 2nd time either.The Juggler said:
If it warrants it, it must be done.tempo_n_groove said:Is it wise to try and impeach him again?
Find something that is concrete this time.
People continue to have their heads in the sand.
National security? I thought Trump asked for a "quid pro quo"? A favor, an abuse of power? I don't see where our national security was at risk from this? Ukraine was still going on with security despite not having a payment made to them. They were still doing what was asked.
Think about what you said, "breaking into an opponents headquarters". The President acted like a mob boss and had people break in.
Again, this is just me as I know most of you think it was the end of the world.
Nixon was not the instigator. Nixon was not in on the deed. Nixon was part of the cover-up. So yes, Trump was in it way deeper than Nixon, who only played a role after the fact.
I still don't see what he did as being impeachable.The GOP said Trump committed no crime. The GAO now rules he broke the law.
"The Government Accountability Office ruled Thursday the Trump administration’s withholding of aid to Ukraine violated the law, because Trump can’t use his policy priorities to supersede the constitutional power of the purse that Congress enjoys.If Congress appropriates the money, essentially, Trump needs to have a very specific reason for withholding it, and the reasons supplied didn’t qualify.
In a nine-page report, GAO general counsel Thomas H. Armstrong delivers rebukes to Trump and his administration, saying it has failed to abide by the law, failed to substantiate its actions and failed to cooperate by providing the necessary documentation."
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2021So....this new Russia thing is a little bothersome, no?www.myspace.com0
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The Juggler said:So....this new Russia thing is a little bothersome, no?
Yes. But will be old news in two days. You were right in your posts above that he could kill someone on 5th avenue and Republicans would still vote him into office. I truly believe that. If I give the benefit of the doubt at all to Republicans they may do it and then impeach him so they can try to keep power. #deplorables0 -
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It's a story to keep an eye on and I don't think it will go away. Liz Cheney of all people is asking for an investigation...bootlegger10 said:The Juggler said:So....this new Russia thing is a little bothersome, no?
Yes. But will be old news in two days. You were right in your posts above that he could kill someone on 5th avenue and Republicans would still vote him into office. I truly believe that. If I give the benefit of the doubt at all to Republicans they may do it and then impeach him so they can try to keep power. #deplorableswww.myspace.com0 -
The Juggler said:
It's a story to keep an eye on and I don't think it will go away. Liz Cheney of all people is asking for an investigation...bootlegger10 said:The Juggler said:So....this new Russia thing is a little bothersome, no?
Yes. But will be old news in two days. You were right in your posts above that he could kill someone on 5th avenue and Republicans would still vote him into office. I truly believe that. If I give the benefit of the doubt at all to Republicans they may do it and then impeach him so they can try to keep power. #deplorables
Last I saw, she was asking the White House for an explanation. I'm cynical enough to believe "just making America great again..." will suffice.
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Correct. Yeah she didn't call for an investigation yet. Asking for an explanation right off the bat makes sense though.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:
It's a story to keep an eye on and I don't think it will go away. Liz Cheney of all people is asking for an investigation...bootlegger10 said:The Juggler said:So....this new Russia thing is a little bothersome, no?
Yes. But will be old news in two days. You were right in your posts above that he could kill someone on 5th avenue and Republicans would still vote him into office. I truly believe that. If I give the benefit of the doubt at all to Republicans they may do it and then impeach him so they can try to keep power. #deplorables
Last I saw, she was asking the White House for an explanation. I'm cynical enough to believe "just making America great again..." will suffice.
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The Juggler said:
Correct. Yeah she didn't call for an investigation yet. Asking for an explanation right off the bat makes sense though.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:
It's a story to keep an eye on and I don't think it will go away. Liz Cheney of all people is asking for an investigation...bootlegger10 said:The Juggler said:So....this new Russia thing is a little bothersome, no?
Yes. But will be old news in two days. You were right in your posts above that he could kill someone on 5th avenue and Republicans would still vote him into office. I truly believe that. If I give the benefit of the doubt at all to Republicans they may do it and then impeach him so they can try to keep power. #deplorables
Last I saw, she was asking the White House for an explanation. I'm cynical enough to believe "just making America great again..." will suffice.
Will be an interesting story to watch unfold. Curious how long it will be before a whistle blower comes forward...
Admittedly, I am pretty jaded by the history of "maybe THIS will be the big one" and it never, ever is. I just can't imagine it ever getting to the point where Party of Trump turns on its namesake. And that's got lots to do with the hold that talk radio and Fox News have on the base. The base isn't budging and this is why the Party of Trump doesn't really put up much of a stink.
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If he gets reelected I think I'll move and immigrate to Jamaica. It's not too far away, just about the same weather as here in South Florida. Find a nice island girl/woman and settle down on a mountain side with a pool.
That said, Trump is one of the reasons I haven't been on here as often as I once did. Anger and frustration sometimes gets the best of me, so i stay away in order to keep my cool.
As far as charges against him, not going to happen. If he's not reelected the country will be so relieved no one will want bother with the buffoon. Just let him fade away and burn out in outer space with his Space Force.
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He was impeached without them once. Doesn't mean it can't happen again. The fact that Cheney is even bringing this up is a good sign.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:
Correct. Yeah she didn't call for an investigation yet. Asking for an explanation right off the bat makes sense though.OnWis97 said:The Juggler said:
It's a story to keep an eye on and I don't think it will go away. Liz Cheney of all people is asking for an investigation...bootlegger10 said:The Juggler said:So....this new Russia thing is a little bothersome, no?
Yes. But will be old news in two days. You were right in your posts above that he could kill someone on 5th avenue and Republicans would still vote him into office. I truly believe that. If I give the benefit of the doubt at all to Republicans they may do it and then impeach him so they can try to keep power. #deplorables
Last I saw, she was asking the White House for an explanation. I'm cynical enough to believe "just making America great again..." will suffice.
Will be an interesting story to watch unfold. Curious how long it will be before a whistle blower comes forward...
Admittedly, I am pretty jaded by the history of "maybe THIS will be the big one" and it never, ever is. I just can't imagine it ever getting to the point where Party of Trump turns on its namesake. And that's got lots to do with the hold that talk radio and Fox News have on the base. The base isn't budging and this is why the Party of Trump doesn't really put up much of a stink.www.myspace.com0 -
2021This story is about to take off. Not sure how or if he can be impeached during an election year but if this is all true, dare I say it’s worse that what he was already impeached for?
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Time to hold some more hearings.The Juggler said:This story is about to take off. Not sure how or if he can be impeached during an election year but if this is all true, dare I say it’s worse that what he was already impeached for?
Buckle up, folks
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2021Well, had the whole "overturning an election thing" actually worked out for him, safe to say he would've been impeached for a second time later this year. Now, though, perhaps, the indictment thread should be bumped....www.myspace.com0
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