I think a second impeachment could work. Republicans lawmakers could certainly use anything to recover from the fallout of supporting this lunatic for so long, and have proven their spinelessness plenty of times in the past four years. Seems like an easy scapegoat to me.
Thoughts?
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I think a second impeachment could work. Republicans lawmakers could certainly use anything to recover from the fallout of supporting this lunatic for so long, and have proven their spinelessness plenty of times in the past four years. Seems like an easy scapegoat to me.
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I think a second impeachment could work. Republicans lawmakers could certainly use anything to recover from the fallout of supporting this lunatic for so long, and have proven their spinelessness plenty of times in the past four years. Seems like an easy scapegoat to me.
Thoughts?
except those who want to capture the cult
Anyone in the Republican party not supporting Trump is being labelled as enemies by the Faithful. I work in Indiana, so I am around Hoosiers all day. They have labelled Pence, Braun and Young as spineless traitors for not backing the coup.
I think a second impeachment could work. Republicans lawmakers could certainly use anything to recover from the fallout of supporting this lunatic for so long, and have proven their spinelessness plenty of times in the past four years. Seems like an easy scapegoat to me.
Thoughts?
except those who want to capture the cult
Anyone in the Republican party not supporting Trump is being labelled as enemies by the Faithful. I work in Indiana, so I am around Hoosiers all day. They have labelled Pence, Braun and Young as spineless traitors for not backing the coup.
It’s scary for our future. But I can’t help but kind of enjoy watching the monster they created turn on them.
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I think a second impeachment could work. Republicans lawmakers could certainly use anything to recover from the fallout of supporting this lunatic for so long, and have proven their spinelessness plenty of times in the past four years. Seems like an easy scapegoat to me.
Thoughts?
except those who want to capture the cult
Anyone in the Republican party not supporting Trump is being labelled as enemies by the Faithful. I work in Indiana, so I am around Hoosiers all day. They have labelled Pence, Braun and Young as spineless traitors for not backing the coup.
It’s scary for our future. But I can’t help but kind of enjoy watching the monster they created turn on them.
Well I expected Trump to burn the republican party to the ground all along. Didn't realize it will take until the final days of his presidency for it to happen. I'd assume there will be a more viable third party formed in the coming years that will essentially just fracture up that portion of the vote....which, I'd assume, is good news if you are a democrat.
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
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SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
If he can be convinced that it's the difference between prison and no prison? Maybe. Otherwise, I think he'll view it as adding to a failed legacy and/or an admission of not being as great as he wants to be.
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Doesn't a pardon only clear federal crimes? There's plenty of dirt for state charges. Why he hasn't been charged for inciting a riot that resulted in a murder is beyond me at this point. The evidence is all on video.
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
If he can be convinced that it's the difference between prison and no prison? Maybe. Otherwise, I think he'll view it as adding to a failed legacy and/or an admission of not being as great as he wants to be.
Yeah that would be my point. Someone would have to convince him a self pardon is questionable but, obviously, a Pence pardon would be absolute for federal crimes.
I think a 2nd impeachment, with greater odds of being convicted (which would mean he cannot run again) would be absolutely devastating to him both politically and economically.
(I don't think he will actually run again, but I think he will grift his maga morons and bleed that well dry for as long as is humanly possible).
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low.
many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser.
the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low.
many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser.
the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail.
Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now.
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low.
many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser.
the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail.
Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now.
i've been hearing this for 4 years.
care to make it interesting?
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low.
many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser.
the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail.
Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now.
i've been hearing this for 4 years.
care to make it interesting?
Lol. If you cannot see that they are this time, I'm not sure what to tell you.
How would you propose that we make the odds of something happening interesting? I am not saying it will happen. I am saying the odds of it happening are much higher than you think.
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low.
many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser.
the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail.
Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now.
It could be argued that the cabinet members are getting out before they have to vote on the 25th, so don't assume they're all jumping ship in protest.
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low.
many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser.
the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail.
Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now.
It could be argued that the cabinet members are getting out before they have to vote on the 25th, so don't assume they're all jumping ship in protest.
Doesn't that tell you they believe that the odds of them having to make that decision are high? lol Call it out of protest or call it that they don't want to make a decision on the 25th amendment....either way, it is an indication that the walls are closing in much more than at any other point in the last four years.
SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low.
many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser.
the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail.
Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now.
i've been hearing this for 4 years.
care to make it interesting?
Lol. If you cannot see that they are this time, I'm not sure what to tell you.
How would you propose that we make the odds of something happening interesting? I am not saying it will happen. I am saying the odds of it happening are much higher than you think.
I've also been hearing this for 4 years.
I see the walls are closing in. I'm saying Trump won't see the walls closing in, and won't resign. he has zero self awareness. He'd still contend his ship isn't sinking as his lungs are filling up.
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SO....folks.....now that it seems there is some appetite (FINALLY) from republicans now that Trump is of no use to them, I wonder if someone will be able to convince him to resign over the weekend on the condition that Pence pardons him. At this point, I kinda think that might be the most likely outcome here. There are all these reports of him pardoning himself, but also constitutional scholars saying they are not sure if that self pardon will hold up in court. I wonder if someone can convince him this is the best way out. I mean, all he cares about is himself and not going to jail so...
no chance he resigns. i'd (maybe) bet my house on it.
I think the odds of it happening now are greater than ever.
Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
sure, a 2% chance is greater than 0%, but it's still damn low.
many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser.
the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail.
Yeah, I strongly disagree with this. Huge difference now, with republicans calling for impeachment and a large portion of his cabinet resigning in protest. WH counsel is considering resigning at this point. The walls are actually closing in right now.
i've been hearing this for 4 years.
care to make it interesting?
Lol. If you cannot see that they are this time, I'm not sure what to tell you.
How would you propose that we make the odds of something happening interesting? I am not saying it will happen. I am saying the odds of it happening are much higher than you think.
I've also been hearing this for 4 years.
I see the walls are closing in. I'm saying Trump won't see the walls closing in, and won't resign. he has zero self awareness. He'd still contend his ship isn't sinking as his lungs are filling up.
And less than a year ago he was impeached for the first time. So you've been hearing that for good reason.
Reports are the the only reason he released those half assed videos urging calm was because lawyers convinced him he could face criminal charges for inciting a riot that lead to multiple deaths.
i'm aware of all of that. none of that convinces me he will resign. i'd be thrilled if I end up being wrong. I'd love for that to be his legacy. I just don't see it happening.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
i'm aware of all of that. none of that convinces me he will resign. i'd be thrilled if I end up being wrong. I'd love for that to be his legacy. I just don't see it happening.
I think the only way he resigns is if he's guaranteed a pardon, and since he can't be pardoned in the states... I don't see it happening.
i'm aware of all of that. none of that convinces me he will resign. i'd be thrilled if I end up being wrong. I'd love for that to be his legacy. I just don't see it happening.
I think the only way he resigns is if he's guaranteed a pardon, and since he can't be pardoned in the states... I don't see it happening.
and it would be the ultimate disgrace to his supporters. the constant message has been "strength" and "don't give up" and "fight!". turning around and resigning a week later would make him a complete failure, even to his own magats.
"Oh Canada...you're beautiful when you're drunk" -EV 8/14/93
I think a second impeachment could work. Republicans lawmakers could certainly use anything to recover from the fallout of supporting this lunatic for so long, and have proven their spinelessness plenty of times in the past four years. Seems like an easy scapegoat to me.
Thoughts?
except those who want to capture the cult
Anyone in the Republican party not supporting Trump is being labelled as enemies by the Faithful. I work in Indiana, so I am around Hoosiers all day. They have labelled Pence, Braun and Young as spineless traitors for not backing the coup.
It’s scary for our future. But I can’t help but kind of enjoy watching the monster they created turn on them.
Well I expected Trump to burn the republican party to the ground all along. Didn't realize it will take until the final days of his presidency for it to happen. I'd assume there will be a more viable third party formed in the coming years that will essentially just fracture up that portion of the vote....which, I'd assume, is good news if you are a democrat.
Nah when voting time comes again they will all rally
What would they pardon him from? Doesn’t a pardon have to be specific? Or can they say pardoned from all known and unknown crimes committed while in office? That would be stupid.
I think a second impeachment could work. Republicans lawmakers could certainly use anything to recover from the fallout of supporting this lunatic for so long, and have proven their spinelessness plenty of times in the past four years. Seems like an easy scapegoat to me.
Thoughts?
except those who want to capture the cult
Anyone in the Republican party not supporting Trump is being labelled as enemies by the Faithful. I work in Indiana, so I am around Hoosiers all day. They have labelled Pence, Braun and Young as spineless traitors for not backing the coup.
It’s scary for our future. But I can’t help but kind of enjoy watching the monster they created turn on them.
Well I expected Trump to burn the republican party to the ground all along. Didn't realize it will take until the final days of his presidency for it to happen. I'd assume there will be a more viable third party formed in the coming years that will essentially just fracture up that portion of the vote....which, I'd assume, is good news if you are a democrat.
Nah when voting time comes again they will all rally
Probably but if Trump causes enough commotion, it definitely could splinter the vote.
This will be forgotten in 6 months when covid deaths reach 600K and the Pat Riots fuel rumors that they were maced with covid gas as they stormed the capitol.
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except those who want to capture the cult
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Prevent the guy from ever holding office again, does anyone think that wouldn't be what's best for the country?
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Wouldn't it make the most sense for him at this point?
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I think a 2nd impeachment, with greater odds of being convicted (which would mean he cannot run again) would be absolutely devastating to him both politically and economically.
(I don't think he will actually run again, but I think he will grift his maga morons and bleed that well dry for as long as is humanly possible).
many things make sense for him over the last 4 years. he's done almost none of them. narcissists rarely do anything that they thing might paint them as a loser.
the fucking guy still thought a week ago he could still be president another 4 years. no chance he believes he is going to jail.
-EV 8/14/93
care to make it interesting?
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If you cannot see that they are this time, I'm not sure what to tell you.
How would you propose that we make the odds of something happening interesting? I am not saying it will happen. I am saying the odds of it happening are much higher than you think.
I see the walls are closing in. I'm saying Trump won't see the walls closing in, and won't resign. he has zero self awareness. He'd still contend his ship isn't sinking as his lungs are filling up.
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Reports are the the only reason he released those half assed videos urging calm was because lawyers convinced him he could face criminal charges for inciting a riot that lead to multiple deaths.
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