10C tickets on stubhub

mace1229

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:
Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

It's very possibly not legal to do so.

I don't see how it wouldn't be legal to give it as as option. Maybe to require F2F might be illegal, but just providing it as an option in a state where tickets must be transferable I can't imagine that. My guess is probably they assume next to no one will use it for those 2 states so it isn't worth setting up the system for those 2 shows. 

Lerxst1992

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PJNB said:

Lerxst1992 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:

That asterisk is actually encouraging fans to resell at a 30% premium on StubHub to recover cost.

You're absolutely right but you really should be pointing this argument at your state government.

It's clear Pearl Jam/10C wants the most fans to see the concert at face value. This new system is accomplishing that more than ever before.

Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

Do that here or other social media outlets. If you had MSG tickets you had to unload you would sell them in 5 seconds on this site. There are options for you that are very easy. 

GTF seems to have alot of hope, despair and unfilled dreams, because of all the ISO trades.

There is something to be said for the convenience of listing on the exchange and have the funds automatically charged back to your account.

Yes, there are a lot of ISOs meaning you could sell at face in 5 seconds. "Venmo or PP me now and I'll transfer to you immediately after." This is only difficult if you try to make it difficult.

Venmo offers no buyer or seller protection.

pjl44

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PJNB said:

Lerxst1992 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:

That asterisk is actually encouraging fans to resell at a 30% premium on StubHub to recover cost.

You're absolutely right but you really should be pointing this argument at your state government.

It's clear Pearl Jam/10C wants the most fans to see the concert at face value. This new system is accomplishing that more than ever before.

Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

Do that here or other social media outlets. If you had MSG tickets you had to unload you would sell them in 5 seconds on this site. There are options for you that are very easy. 

GTF seems to have alot of hope, despair and unfilled dreams, because of all the ISO trades.

There is something to be said for the convenience of listing on the exchange and have the funds automatically charged back to your account.

Yes, there are a lot of ISOs meaning you could sell at face in 5 seconds. "Venmo or PP me now and I'll transfer to you immediately after." This is only difficult if you try to make it difficult.

Venmo offers no buyer or seller protection.

My dude, if you spent a fraction of your time trying to find solutions vs. grousing about problems you might find yourself out from behind life's poles and overhangs

Cridder

when do those platinum tickets go on sale?

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan

While I agree that tickets should be sold on here rather than on the f2f exchange given that we pay an annual fee, I also understand why 10c is doing the f2f option. On another note, even if you were to sell on here, you have no guarantee that it isn’t going to a scalper unless you directly know the person who is buying the tickets from you

tdawe

mace1229 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:
Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

It's very possibly not legal to do so.

I don't see how it wouldn't be legal to give it as as option. Maybe to require F2F might be illegal, but just providing it as an option in a state where tickets must be transferable I can't imagine that. My guess is probably they assume next to no one will use it for those 2 states so it isn't worth setting up the system for those 2 shows. 

The exchanges for other shows are being set up for a very specific reason - the band wanted to sell non-transferable tickets, but they also wanted to provide an outlet for people who get tickets and then can't use them for whatever reason. It is unnecessary to do so in NY and CO, since anyone who finds themselves in that situation can get rid of the tickets in a number of ways. 

JimmyV

tdawe said:

mace1229 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:
Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

It's very possibly not legal to do so.

I don't see how it wouldn't be legal to give it as as option. Maybe to require F2F might be illegal, but just providing it as an option in a state where tickets must be transferable I can't imagine that. My guess is probably they assume next to no one will use it for those 2 states so it isn't worth setting up the system for those 2 shows. 

The exchanges for other shows are being set up for a very specific reason - the band wanted to sell non-transferable tickets, but they also wanted to provide an outlet for people who get tickets and then can't use them for whatever reason. It is unnecessary to do so in NY and CO, since anyone who finds themselves in that situation can get rid of the tickets in a number of ways. 

Most of which are either less convenient and/or accompanied by fees. 

tdawe

JimmyV said:

tdawe said:

mace1229 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:
Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

It's very possibly not legal to do so.

I don't see how it wouldn't be legal to give it as as option. Maybe to require F2F might be illegal, but just providing it as an option in a state where tickets must be transferable I can't imagine that. My guess is probably they assume next to no one will use it for those 2 states so it isn't worth setting up the system for those 2 shows. 

The exchanges for other shows are being set up for a very specific reason - the band wanted to sell non-transferable tickets, but they also wanted to provide an outlet for people who get tickets and then can't use them for whatever reason. It is unnecessary to do so in NY and CO, since anyone who finds themselves in that situation can get rid of the tickets in a number of ways. 

Most of which are either less convenient and/or accompanied by fees. 

You must have more experience with the Fan To Fan Exchange than I do. I haven't seen it yet so don't know how convenient it is. 

JimmyV

tdawe said:

JimmyV said:

tdawe said:

mace1229 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:
Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

It's very possibly not legal to do so.

I don't see how it wouldn't be legal to give it as as option. Maybe to require F2F might be illegal, but just providing it as an option in a state where tickets must be transferable I can't imagine that. My guess is probably they assume next to no one will use it for those 2 states so it isn't worth setting up the system for those 2 shows. 

The exchanges for other shows are being set up for a very specific reason - the band wanted to sell non-transferable tickets, but they also wanted to provide an outlet for people who get tickets and then can't use them for whatever reason. It is unnecessary to do so in NY and CO, since anyone who finds themselves in that situation can get rid of the tickets in a number of ways. 

Most of which are either less convenient and/or accompanied by fees. 

You must have more experience with the Fan To Fan Exchange than I do. I haven't seen it yet so don't know how convenient it is. 

It's going to be no more involved than pressing a few buttons. But we'll see. 

pjl44

If I had MSG or Denver tickets to sell I'd rather do it here because I could make a decision on who I'm selling to. On a F2F exchange, there is a much higher likelihood that the buyer is going to flip them on the secondary.

mace1229

tdawe said:

mace1229 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:
Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

It's very possibly not legal to do so.

I don't see how it wouldn't be legal to give it as as option. Maybe to require F2F might be illegal, but just providing it as an option in a state where tickets must be transferable I can't imagine that. My guess is probably they assume next to no one will use it for those 2 states so it isn't worth setting up the system for those 2 shows. 

The exchanges for other shows are being set up for a very specific reason - the band wanted to sell non-transferable tickets, but they also wanted to provide an outlet for people who get tickets and then can't use them for whatever reason. It is unnecessary to do so in NY and CO, since anyone who finds themselves in that situation can get rid of the tickets in a number of ways. 

I only partially agree. Yes, that is what it is set up for, to transfer non-transferable tickets. But they are non-transferable to begin with to prevent people from selling them over face value. They have to realize some of the 10c tickets are going to be on StubHub for 5-10 times face value. Someone suggested it might be illegal to offer F2F for those states. I doubt that is the case. Those selling on StubHub for over face value probably would not use the F2F anyway, so it may be pointless to set it up. Except for the few fans who intended on going and something come sup last minute, but that is probably not a major concern since for many years we had no way to transfer any tickets.

Lerxst1992

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PJNB said:

Lerxst1992 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:

That asterisk is actually encouraging fans to resell at a 30% premium on StubHub to recover cost.

You're absolutely right but you really should be pointing this argument at your state government.

It's clear Pearl Jam/10C wants the most fans to see the concert at face value. This new system is accomplishing that more than ever before.

Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

Do that here or other social media outlets. If you had MSG tickets you had to unload you would sell them in 5 seconds on this site. There are options for you that are very easy. 

GTF seems to have alot of hope, despair and unfilled dreams, because of all the ISO trades.

There is something to be said for the convenience of listing on the exchange and have the funds automatically charged back to your account.

Yes, there are a lot of ISOs meaning you could sell at face in 5 seconds. "Venmo or PP me now and I'll transfer to you immediately after." This is only difficult if you try to make it difficult.

Venmo offers no buyer or seller protection.

My dude, if you spent a fraction of your time trying to find solutions vs. grousing about problems you might find yourself out from behind life's poles and overhangs

I'd contend getting scammed out of $250 on venmo is not petty. I dont think it's absolutely going to happen, but just commenting that convenience and security is not being offered on equal footing.

BennyLaRue

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PJNB said:

Lerxst1992 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:

That asterisk is actually encouraging fans to resell at a 30% premium on StubHub to recover cost.

You're absolutely right but you really should be pointing this argument at your state government.

It's clear Pearl Jam/10C wants the most fans to see the concert at face value. This new system is accomplishing that more than ever before.

Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

Do that here or other social media outlets. If you had MSG tickets you had to unload you would sell them in 5 seconds on this site. There are options for you that are very easy. 

GTF seems to have alot of hope, despair and unfilled dreams, because of all the ISO trades.

There is something to be said for the convenience of listing on the exchange and have the funds automatically charged back to your account.

Yes, there are a lot of ISOs meaning you could sell at face in 5 seconds. "Venmo or PP me now and I'll transfer to you immediately after." This is only difficult if you try to make it difficult.

Venmo offers no buyer or seller protection.

My dude, if you spent a fraction of your time trying to find solutions vs. grousing about problems you might find yourself out from behind life's poles and overhangs

Possible poles and overhangs.

Lerxst1992

BennyLaRue said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PJNB said:

Lerxst1992 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:

That asterisk is actually encouraging fans to resell at a 30% premium on StubHub to recover cost.

You're absolutely right but you really should be pointing this argument at your state government.

It's clear Pearl Jam/10C wants the most fans to see the concert at face value. This new system is accomplishing that more than ever before.

Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

Do that here or other social media outlets. If you had MSG tickets you had to unload you would sell them in 5 seconds on this site. There are options for you that are very easy. 

GTF seems to have alot of hope, despair and unfilled dreams, because of all the ISO trades.

There is something to be said for the convenience of listing on the exchange and have the funds automatically charged back to your account.

Yes, there are a lot of ISOs meaning you could sell at face in 5 seconds. "Venmo or PP me now and I'll transfer to you immediately after." This is only difficult if you try to make it difficult.

Venmo offers no buyer or seller protection.

My dude, if you spent a fraction of your time trying to find solutions vs. grousing about problems you might find yourself out from behind life's poles and overhangs

Possible poles and overhangs.

RK50065

Cridder said:

when do those platinum tickets go on sale?

Already sold out.

BennyLaRue

Lerxst1992 said:

BennyLaRue said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

PJNB said:

Lerxst1992 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Lerxst1992 said:

That asterisk is actually encouraging fans to resell at a 30% premium on StubHub to recover cost.

You're absolutely right but you really should be pointing this argument at your state government.

It's clear Pearl Jam/10C wants the most fans to see the concert at face value. This new system is accomplishing that more than ever before.

Why not at least provide the exchange as an option? Yes many will go for the profits on StubHub but at least have the option to transfer at face?

Do that here or other social media outlets. If you had MSG tickets you had to unload you would sell them in 5 seconds on this site. There are options for you that are very easy. 

GTF seems to have alot of hope, despair and unfilled dreams, because of all the ISO trades.

There is something to be said for the convenience of listing on the exchange and have the funds automatically charged back to your account.

Yes, there are a lot of ISOs meaning you could sell at face in 5 seconds. "Venmo or PP me now and I'll transfer to you immediately after." This is only difficult if you try to make it difficult.

Venmo offers no buyer or seller protection.

My dude, if you spent a fraction of your time trying to find solutions vs. grousing about problems you might find yourself out from behind life's poles and overhangs

Possible poles and overhangs.

Is that 10C seating data? Is that puppy you? This speaks to me.

IlliniGuy76

Every time I see this thread increasing in pages due to upset fans just sincerely cracks me up how infatuated people are with this topic.

drando

I think they should make the ticket cutoff 1 year before a tour.,  because if you are a true fan,  you are already a member by the time a tour is announced.

Lerxst1992

IlliniGuy76 said:

Every time I see this thread increasing in pages due to upset fans just sincerely cracks me up how infatuated people are with this topic.

IG, we can discuss without being “upset.”

I find it to be an interesting topic because this band has gone to unique and great lengths to combat this “problem.” Some might  believe they have made the situation exponentially worse with their intervention into the marketplace.

tdawe

Lerxst1992 said:

IlliniGuy76 said:

Every time I see this thread increasing in pages due to upset fans just sincerely cracks me up how infatuated people are with this topic.

IG, we can discuss without being “upset.”

I find it to be an interesting topic because this band has gone to unique and great lengths to combat this “problem.” Some might  believe they have made the situation exponentially worse with their intervention into the marketplace.

Which intervention are you referring to here?