Putting people on pedestals is bound to leave you disappointed. That's on you, not the other person.
Absent any egregious moral faults or crimes, I look at it this way - is the individual doing more good than harm? If yes, great, and this seems to be one of those cases. You can't really ask for more as projecting and expecting perfection according to your personal definition is all kinds of ridiculous.
The other thing is he's probably doing more good in this world than you are, so who are you to judge?
Should I Stay or Should I Go..that would be a fun encore cover as a band. Wonder if that’s ever been done?
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Nothing says "reduce your carbon footprint" like flying private to an event celebrating private flying.
I think this is funny......people are getting way too defensive.
If I could afford it I’d fly private too. I think everyone needs to relax and try to look at each post with humor before taking offense. Life’s easier when you’re happy. Just my thoughts.
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Nothing says "reduce your carbon footprint" like flying private to an event celebrating private flying.
I think this is funny......people are getting way too defensive.
If I could afford it I’d fly private too. I think everyone needs to relax and try to look at each post with humor before taking offense. Life’s easier when you’re happy. Just my thoughts.
That’s good advice Well said.
BennyLaRue, thanks for posting that link. That is a cool site. I will end up wasting a lot of time there.
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Probably the same thing that happened to the 1995 all of us ... for better or worse.
1995 me would have had 3 more nights of drinking before present me’s hangover is over.
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Remember, Ed had a scary stalker situation at one point. Anyone who went through that might not be too eager to sit on a crowded airplane with god knows who. Also, you probably wouldn't want your family sitting on that same crowded airplane.
Remember, Ed had a scary stalker situation at one point. Anyone who went through that might not be too eager to sit on a crowded airplane with god knows who. Also, you probably wouldn't want your family sitting on that same crowded airplane.
Also he has hundreds of millions of dollars. He freaking earned the right to fly on a private jet.
Remember, Ed had a scary stalker situation at one point. Anyone who went through that might not be too eager to sit on a crowded airplane with god knows who. Also, you probably wouldn't want your family sitting on that same crowded airplane.
Also he has hundreds of millions of dollars. He freaking earned the right to fly on a private jet.
Just like I earned the right to drive an SUV.
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Did you guys want him to walk there? Maybe take a sailboat for the European tour?
Transportation to the gig aside, is it off message for a climate change activist to perform a private show for a private jet company?
I understand both sides of this argument, but unless you were there you do not know the message Ed was delivering between songs. He conceivably could have used it to discuss climate change with the folks at Netjets who are all probably wealthy and influential.
Someone of Ed’s stature is not going to help change the world from his living room.
Love the pic with HOFer Chelios!
If that is what would pass as climate change activism, it goes a long way in explaining why people are not taking it seriously.
And I say all this as someone who is perfectly fine with everything he's doing. My politics on the issue don't necessarily line up with the band's, so it's just strange to see him doing something counter to his position vs. mine.
I didn’t say that was what he was doing. I was merely pontificating.
Remember, Ed had a scary stalker situation at one point. Anyone who went through that might not be too eager to sit on a crowded airplane with god knows who. Also, you probably wouldn't want your family sitting on that same crowded airplane.
Also he has hundreds of millions of dollars. He freaking earned the right to fly on a private jet.
I’m just glad chelios didn’t give Ed a cheap shot. Never forget his cheap shot on the Flyers Brian Propp. Screw him 👎
Growing up a Hawks fan I liked him....until I met him.
I liked him until he became a Red Wing, won the Stanley Cup, then showed up with it at the Ed solo show to rub it in our faces.
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I’m just glad chelios didn’t give Ed a cheap shot. Never forget his cheap shot on the Flyers Brian Propp. Screw him 👎
Growing up a Hawks fan I liked him....until I met him.
I liked him until he became a Red Wing, won the Stanley Cup, then showed up with it at the Ed solo show to rub it in our faces.
I was sitting right below him at that show. He held cup down to let us touch it and I refused.
Touched it later in time at Richards bar after Hawks won it.
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Remember, Ed had a scary stalker situation at one point. Anyone who went through that might not be too eager to sit on a crowded airplane with god knows who. Also, you probably wouldn't want your family sitting on that same crowded airplane.
Also he has hundreds of millions of dollars. He freaking earned the right to fly on a private jet.
Just like I earned the right to drive an SUV.
I love both my suv s.
And I love my Mazda 3 like I loved my Honda Civic before it...but there is no way I would miss the chance to fly on a private jet if I could.
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Absent any egregious moral faults or crimes, I look at it this way - is the individual doing more good than harm? If yes, great, and this seems to be one of those cases. You can't really ask for more as projecting and expecting perfection according to your personal definition is all kinds of ridiculous.
The other thing is he's probably doing more good in this world than you are, so who are you to judge?
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If I could afford it I’d fly private too. I think everyone needs to relax and try to look at each post with humor before taking offense. Life’s easier when you’re happy.
Just my thoughts.
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and so does the music.
But in order to make change, you have to talk and work with people that need to change.
You can't always preach to the choir.
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And I love my Mazda 3 like I loved my Honda Civic before it...but there is no way I would miss the chance to fly on a private jet if I could.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
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