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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts. 
    I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux. 
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,380
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    again I'll state you are unknown to us and we to you(unless you choose to come to a quick judgement about any of us) so what this pic is to me, shows your are defensive.

    we are telling who this dude is based on our long experience engaging with him here and elsewhere on this site.

    so before posts like this go on, do yourself a favor and step back and read our various responses to a given topic over time..... study....and learn.
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    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    and isn't "old codger" an offensive term? LOL
    An interesting question. My first inclination is to say "no," but let me look up the history of the word. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts. 
    I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux. 
    it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mickeyrat said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    again I'll state you are unknown to us and we to you(unless you choose to come to a quick judgement about any of us) so what this pic is to me, shows your are defensive.

    we are telling who this dude is based on our long experience engaging with him here and elsewhere on this site.

    so before posts like this go on, do yourself a favor and step back and read our various responses to a given topic over time..... study....and learn.
    A joke that missed. I'm used to that. Apologies. I really did mean that as lighthearted. 
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    ecdanc said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    again I'll state you are unknown to us and we to you(unless you choose to come to a quick judgement about any of us) so what this pic is to me, shows your are defensive.

    we are telling who this dude is based on our long experience engaging with him here and elsewhere on this site.

    so before posts like this go on, do yourself a favor and step back and read our various responses to a given topic over time..... study....and learn.
    A joke that missed. I'm used to that. Apologies. I really did mean that as lighthearted. 
    please tell me I'm reading this incorrectly. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,380
    ecdanc said:
    and isn't "old codger" an offensive term? LOL
    An interesting question. My first inclination is to say "no," but let me look up the history of the word. 
    history dictates or how you used it? I read it as derisive. it surely wasnt intended to be benign.  at least in print with no visual , tonal clues to suggest otherwise
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts. 
    I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux. 
    it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection. 
    An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    ecdanc said:
    if you are truly offended by that, then fine, my apologies and I will edit my post. 
    It hit a nerve because a very old professor brought up this SNL skit at a social event while asking about my child. It took everything in my power not to floor the old codger right there. 
    Sounds like your toxic masculinity was in overdrive there.  
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    again I'll state you are unknown to us and we to you(unless you choose to come to a quick judgement about any of us) so what this pic is to me, shows your are defensive.

    we are telling who this dude is based on our long experience engaging with him here and elsewhere on this site.

    so before posts like this go on, do yourself a favor and step back and read our various responses to a given topic over time..... study....and learn.
    A joke that missed. I'm used to that. Apologies. I really did mean that as lighthearted. 
    please tell me I'm reading this incorrectly. 
    Not sure how you're reading it, but I'm pretty accustomed to making jokes people don't find funny. Mostly puns. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    if you are truly offended by that, then fine, my apologies and I will edit my post. 
    It hit a nerve because a very old professor brought up this SNL skit at a social event while asking about my child. It took everything in my power not to floor the old codger right there. 
    Sounds like your toxic masculinity was in overdrive there.  
    Indeed. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mickeyrat said:
    ecdanc said:
    and isn't "old codger" an offensive term? LOL
    An interesting question. My first inclination is to say "no," but let me look up the history of the word. 
    history dictates or how you used it? I read it as derisive. it surely wasnt intended to be benign.  at least in print with no visual , tonal clues to suggest otherwise
    I read Hugh's question as "is the term 'codger' itself offensive *as a term*." Obviously it can be used as an insult, which I was doing in this case. The history of the word helps determine whether it's more broadly offensive. For example, if I say to my friend "you're stupid," I'm being insulting, but (in the context of this conversation not "offensive"). If I say "you're retarded" (apologies for actually writing that out--I worry some might not know what I mean if I say "r-word") I'm being both insulting and offensive. 
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Welp, this has been an enlightening thread.

    It's really brought out the best in some folks!
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts. 
    I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux. 
    it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection. 
    An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
    we've told you. 

    -don't condescend
    -allow others' viewpoints
    -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue
    -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    hedonist said:
    Welp, this has been an enlightening thread.

    It's really brought out the best in some folks!
    as enlightening as this post. 
    By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.




  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts. 
    I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux. 
    it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection. 
    An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
    we've told you. 

    -don't condescend
    -allow others' viewpoints
    -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue
    -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason. 
    And this approach has proven effective for getting people to admit they are wrong?

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,380
    ecdanc said:
    mickeyrat said:
    ecdanc said:
    and isn't "old codger" an offensive term? LOL
    An interesting question. My first inclination is to say "no," but let me look up the history of the word. 
    history dictates or how you used it? I read it as derisive. it surely wasnt intended to be benign.  at least in print with no visual , tonal clues to suggest otherwise
    I read Hugh's question as "is the term 'codger' itself offensive *as a term*." Obviously it can be used as an insult, which I was doing in this case. The history of the word helps determine whether it's more broadly offensive. For example, if I say to my friend "you're stupid," I'm being insulting, but (in the context of this conversation not "offensive"). If I say "you're retarded" (apologies for actually writing that out--I worry some might not know what I mean if I say "r-word") I'm being both insulting and offensive. 
    I have to ask, and this is earnest and sincere, are you on the spectrum to some degree?
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,831
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    ecdanc said:
    mrussel1 said:
    Rule of thumb on the AMT.. if you piss off @brianlux, it's probably you.  It's pretty simple.  Brian is the nicest, least argumentative person that's a regular here.  
    Didn’t see you post it before I said basically the same thing again. Right on

    I thought you liked to learn? Apparently not. You just like to lash out with pictures like some others around these parts. 
    I meant this as a lighthearted joke. I get it: I'm the new guy arguing with one of the regulars. See my other post about Brianlux. 
    it's not that at ALL. newbie or not, we're just giving you the barometer to go by. If you piss me off, doesn't necessarily mean anything. Same with most people around here. But Brian, that's a different story. And he doesn't need "protecting", he's good on his own. It was more meant as an exercise in self-reflection. 
    An occurrence from which I'd like to learn. Everyone tells me I approached this wrong, but no one can tell me what the right way to approach it is. That tends to make me think maybe there is no way...
    we've told you. 

    -don't condescend
    -allow others' viewpoints
    -stating your the expert and scholar on any given subject will basically shut down any meaningful dialogue
    -just read the room. if everyone's annoyed with one person, there's probably good reason. 
    And this approach has proven effective for getting people to admit they are wrong?

    Again, I thought you "like to learn" not get people to admit they were wrong.  Sheesh...if that's all you are here for....
    hippiemom = goodness
  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,380
    yeah now I get a troll vibe....
    _____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________

    Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
    you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
    memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    edited January 2020
    hedonist said:
    Welp, this has been an enlightening thread.

    It's really brought out the best in some folks!
    as enlightening as this post. 
    It appears you're still het up.

    I am not.

    Let's not do this yet again.