The coronavirus

Spiritual_Chaos

So, I'm thinking about taking a test like 2 weeks before christmas holidays and then stay at home for those two weeks (no shopping, not going to work etc).

Then I should be able to safely go to my moms place for the holidays. Obviously a bit of risk on the train there. But yeah...

F Me In The Brain

Spiritual_Chaos said:

So, I'm thinking about taking a test like 2 weeks before christmas holidays and then stay at home for those two weeks (no shopping, not going to work etc).

Then I should be able to safely go to my moms place for the holidays. Obviously a bit of risk on the train there. But yeah...

If you fully quarantine for 2 weeks you would be fine, based on everything we have seen.

My mother and I discussed something similar last week, but my sister and her son live with my mother.  This means she would need to quarantine from them as well before coming to our house, which we both know she will not do.   So, as much as it sucks, it will be until there is a cure for this shit before we see her again.  (She lives a 7 hour drive away, or else we could sit on opposite sides of the yard and speak, as we do with my wife's parents.)

cincybearcat

PJNB said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Press conference scheduled, new expected to be expected. 

Moderna just announced 94.5% effective rate and better storage temps. This is great news. 

Terrific news!

MayDay10

That is great news about a second potential vaccine.  

We are in for an awful stretch this winter, but I feel like come the end of the Winter we will really turn the corner and put this thing behind us.  

cincybearcat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

So, I'm thinking about taking a test like 2 weeks before christmas holidays and then stay at home for those two weeks (no shopping, not going to work etc).

Then I should be able to safely go to my moms place for the holidays. Obviously a bit of risk on the train there. But yeah...

If you can do it (no work for 2 weeks?) that plan sounds great to minimize that risk.

Wear a mask properly on the train, wash your hands as soon as you get to your moms.  Can also wear a mask and distance some in her house for a bit if you want.  I hope you can make your plan work and get to see your mom this holiday.  I have cancelled plans to see my dad at Thanksgiving and I am unsure if I will see my mom at xmas like was planned.  I cannot quarantine for 14 days before...so I am unsure how ok I am with the risk I bring.

PJNB

MayDay10 said:

That is great news about a second potential vaccine.  

We are in for an awful stretch this winter, but I feel like come the end of the Winter we will really turn the corner and put this thing behind us.  

Agreed. Still waiting on the Oxford results too. That was the early favourite and hopeful they also had great success. The more vaccines in the market that work the better. Now to just have the means to distribute them in an efficient manner. 

Spiritual_Chaos

cincybearcat said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

So, I'm thinking about taking a test like 2 weeks before christmas holidays and then stay at home for those two weeks (no shopping, not going to work etc).

Then I should be able to safely go to my moms place for the holidays. Obviously a bit of risk on the train there. But yeah...

If you can do it (no work for 2 weeks?) that plan sounds great to minimize that risk.

Wear a mask properly on the train, wash your hands as soon as you get to your moms.  Can also wear a mask and distance some in her house for a bit if you want.  I hope you can make your plan work and get to see your mom this holiday.  I have cancelled plans to see my dad at Thanksgiving and I am unsure if I will see my mom at xmas like was planned.  I cannot quarantine for 14 days before...so I am unsure how ok I am with the risk I bring.

I can work from home. We only come in 1-2 days per week me and my colleagues. So I think they and I can manage me working completely from home those weeks.

Yeah, and use the mask on the train.

My mom still works and stuff, but atleast then I know I haven't brought anything to her...

It's shit having to not meet ones relatives. And especially the older ones...

OnWis97

MayDay10 said:

That is great news about a second potential vaccine.  

We are in for an awful stretch this winter, but I feel like come the end of the Winter we will really turn the corner and put this thing behind us.  

I see your picture is a Sabres logo...I'm in Minnesota. So assuming you're in upstate New York, I think people in climates like ours are in for a brutal winter. In winter, we tend to need indoor activities in the great white north. I'm accepting the fact that this winter's going to be, at best, boring and the hope is that by next winter, we'll be much closer to normal. Work. Home projects. Movies. Indoor runs on the treadmill at home (I miss hitting the gym). Looking forward to spring and daylight time. 

I kinda think the timing of early March for shutting down was OK...we were into manageable weather fairly quickly. The next few months is going to be rough...

MayDay10

OnWis97 said:

MayDay10 said:

That is great news about a second potential vaccine.  

We are in for an awful stretch this winter, but I feel like come the end of the Winter we will really turn the corner and put this thing behind us.  

I see your picture is a Sabres logo...I'm in Minnesota. So assuming you're in upstate New York, I think people in climates like ours are in for a brutal winter. In winter, we tend to need indoor activities in the great white north. I'm accepting the fact that this winter's going to be, at best, boring and the hope is that by next winter, we'll be much closer to normal. Work. Home projects. Movies. Indoor runs on the treadmill at home (I miss hitting the gym). Looking forward to spring and daylight time. 

I kinda think the timing of early March for shutting down was OK...we were into manageable weather fairly quickly. The next few months is going to be rough...

Yeah, for sure.  Numbers are rising here for the first time (we escaped the first wave because we shut down with NYC).  Itll be rough.  Kids' Hockey was just starting to open up a bit and now there are a bunch of limits and rules, and I expect it to be shut down in a week or 2.  Same with indoor baseball practice. (luckily I build an outdoor rink).

Schools are next.  We put the kids in a private school so they can go 5 days a week instead of 2 like the Public schools have.  I do not expect it to last through November though.  I will probably be able to work from home quite a bit again so we are fortunate.

Itll be a rough 3 months I think, but once the vaccine starts hitting the streets and the oldies and sickies get it as well as the essential workers, things will start to open up a great deal.  I expect March to be the start of the "curve" heading to normalcy

mcgruff10

New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy today on schools and some new restrictions:

Murphy did say schools continue to be a positive point during the pandemic, with 52 cases of in-school transmission in the state out of about 3,000 buildings.

Asked if the state will close schools if numbers reach a certain level, the governor said: “I hope not. Our school experience has actually been a good one so far.”

“Schools, by the way, are a good example of when you prepare properly, you socially distance, you put barriers up, you mandate masking,” he said on WPIX. “That’s the reason why we’re seeing a low level of transmission in schools — because they’re doing it the right way.”

Private indoor gatherings will be dropped from 25 to 10 people and outdoor gatherings from 500 to 150 people with the winter holidays fast approaching, Murphy said.

But the governor said the change does not affect the current 25% capacity limits on indoor dining in the state. Plus, current indoor limits on weddings, funerals, movie theaters, performances, religious services, and political activities — up to 25% of a venue’s capacity, with a maximum of 150 people — will remain, Murphy’s office told NJ Advance Media. Outdoor religious services and political activities will continue to have no limit.

lastexitlondon

cincybearcat

mcgruff10 said:

New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy today on schools and some new restrictions:

Murphy did say schools continue to be a positive point during the pandemic, with 52 cases of in-school transmission in the state out of about 3,000 buildings.

Asked if the state will close schools if numbers reach a certain level, the governor said: “I hope not. Our school experience has actually been a good one so far.”

“Schools, by the way, are a good example of when you prepare properly, you socially distance, you put barriers up, you mandate masking,” he said on WPIX. “That’s the reason why we’re seeing a low level of transmission in schools — because they’re doing it the right way.”

Private indoor gatherings will be dropped from 25 to 10 people and outdoor gatherings from 500 to 150 people with the winter holidays fast approaching, Murphy said.

But the governor said the change does not affect the current 25% capacity limits on indoor dining in the state. Plus, current indoor limits on weddings, funerals, movie theaters, performances, religious services, and political activities — up to 25% of a venue’s capacity, with a maximum of 150 people — will remain, Murphy’s office told NJ Advance Media. Outdoor religious services and political activities will continue to have no limit.

Good to hear of schools in other places being successful.  Now if we could only get parents to listen and behave as well as their kids do.

mace1229

lastexitlondon said:

So you're saying it is less risk for a girl not to wear a mask?

lastexitlondon

It depends where  your face is!

brianlux

mace1229 said:

lastexitlondon said:

So you're saying it is less risk for a girl not to wear a mask?

Does this help?

HughFreakingDillon

all this vaccine info is pointing in the right direction. i think/hope we'll be back to semi-normalcy by the summer. 

lastexit78

Poncier said:

PJNB said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Press conference scheduled, new expected to be expected. 

Moderna just announced 94.5% effective rate and better storage temps. This is great news. 

Outstanding news.
2 of the major vaccines showing 90%+ effectiveness so far is better than we could have hoped for a couple months ago. I remember some discussion a while back(possibly on CNN) with experts hoping for 70-75% effectiveness.

These mRNA vaccines used by Pfizer/Moderna are groundbreaking if proven effective. I'm talking about for future generations of humans facing whatever virus's we stew up with our reckless behavior in the coming centuries. These would be the first mRNA vaccines on the market. To think science is to the point where we can trick the human body into fighting off a virus that it's never seen is an astounding accomplishment. Almost as astounding as those who still won't wear a mask or commit to taking one of the vaccines if proven safe which seems almost assured at this point. 

lastexitlondon

lastexit78 said:

Poncier said:

PJNB said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Press conference scheduled, new expected to be expected. 

Moderna just announced 94.5% effective rate and better storage temps. This is great news. 

Outstanding news.
2 of the major vaccines showing 90%+ effectiveness so far is better than we could have hoped for a couple months ago. I remember some discussion a while back(possibly on CNN) with experts hoping for 70-75% effectiveness.

These mRNA vaccines used by Pfizer/Moderna are groundbreaking if proven effective. I'm talking about for future generations of humans facing whatever virus's we stew up with our reckless behavior in the coming centuries. These would be the first mRNA vaccines on the market. To think science is to the point where we can trick the human body into fighting off a virus that it's never seen is an astounding accomplishment. Almost as astounding as those who still won't wear a mask or commit to taking one of the vaccines if proven safe which seems almost assured at this point. 

I agree so many terrible  illnesses  people suffer with now  could well be cured with this  technique.  It is really history  being made and the future generations will benefit i believe 

Spiritual_Chaos

Society should still practice Covid precuastions a few weeks every flu season going forward (Washing hands longer, social distancing etc) 

Would save a lot of elderly people every year

mcgruff10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Society should still practice Covid precuastions a few weeks every flu season going forward (Washing hands longer, social distancing etc) 

Would save a lot of elderly people every year

Agreed.