The coronavirus

Spiritual_Chaos

23scidoo said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Sweden is the only EU country not welcomed when Greece opens to tourists on July 1. It announced the Greek Prime Minister, Kyriakos Mitsotakis, on Monday, writes several media outlets.

An additional 18 non-EU countries will be allowed tourists in Greece. By contrast, British, Russians and Americans, among others, are still banned along with the Swedes.

The decision is based on the high number of infected people in Sweden and the other countries. It is unclear if Swedes will be prevented from entering the country via other means of transport.



Lucky me Pearl Jam isn't playing there this summer. Those rascals.

No Swedish girls this summer..bad news..

And at the same time, the Swedish girls in Sweden this summer:

pjl44

FDA issues guidance on vaccine approval. A couple things that jumped out at me:

- 50% protection vs placebo is a low bar. Probably in case we find ourselves in a "better than nothing" situation. I hinted at this earlier, but what if the first approved vaccine is 70% effective? Is that enough for people to jump on board?

- In a weird lemonade-out-of-lemons scenario, having a few large outbreaks at a time where several vaccines are heading to Phase 3 could at least allow the opportunity for substantial samples. Assuming the timing indeed syncs up well.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/fda-to-issue-guidance-on-covid-19-vaccine-approval-11593516090?redirect=amp#click=https://t.co/x1Yhavv8aY

Spunkie

https://www.nejm.org/coronavirus

pjl44

mickeyrat said:

pjl44 said:

Remember that Memorial Day Ozarks pool party so many people flipped their wig over? I went searching for updates and it's crickets. I couldn't find any follow-up reporting more recent than 2 weeks ago. From what I could find, there have only been 2 confirmed cases in attendees.

It would be nice if the media could follow some of these stories instead of just moving on to the next Can You Believe This picture. It would be really helpful to have some understanding of what impact events like that have.

wonder what the breakdown between locals, in state folks, and out of state folks generally is.....

Yeah, that brings up an interesting point. Just looking at a map, you could reasonably see that area drawing from 2-4 states. (I'm sure locals have a much better feel for how that goes for real.) When people quote state data, you're not really getting a great picture. On one hand you have unique state policies, on the other you have how people naturally travel. You could have an outbreak in Kentucky that really reflects greater Cincinnati. There are so many variables. 

mickeyrat

pjl44 said:

mickeyrat said:

pjl44 said:

Remember that Memorial Day Ozarks pool party so many people flipped their wig over? I went searching for updates and it's crickets. I couldn't find any follow-up reporting more recent than 2 weeks ago. From what I could find, there have only been 2 confirmed cases in attendees.

It would be nice if the media could follow some of these stories instead of just moving on to the next Can You Believe This picture. It would be really helpful to have some understanding of what impact events like that have.

wonder what the breakdown between locals, in state folks, and out of state folks generally is.....

Yeah, that brings up an interesting point. Just looking at a map, you could reasonably see that area drawing from 2-4 states. (I'm sure locals have a much better feel for how that goes for real.) When people quote state data, you're not really getting a great picture. On one hand you have unique state policies, on the other you have how people naturally travel. You could have an outbreak in Kentucky that really reflects greater Cincinnati. There are so many variables. 

and cincy(hamilton county) and dayton(montgomery county) are both spiking now....

Spiritual_Chaos

Thank God for the Nerds
https://youtu.be/5QCkN_bSSaw

what dreams

I predict that the media -- mainstream, alternative, print, cable, left, right -- will report on this morning's three hour Senate hearing in the most alarming, click-bait manner by pulling out 10 second clips and ignoring context. I just watched the hearing in its entirely. It was collegial, reasoned, informative. If you have the time, I encourage everyone to watch. It was fascinating.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?473393-1/drs-anthony-fauci-robert-redfield-stephen-hahn-address-covid-19-reopening-us-economy#&vod

what dreams

^^^ To add to the above, an Admiral Dr. Fourier from HHS was also part of the panel not named in the link. We need to hear from him more often. He was great. 

Spunkie

^^ I love that post, Mr. SC! (Although, I can't hear the word nerd and not feel 12 years old with short hair, glasses, nose in a book, getting beer bottle caps flicked at me by my sisters.) 

Spunkie

BC's school stages:

In the fall: It is possible we could start with Stage 3, which is what we are experiencing now, Stage 2, with all elementary students attending in-class instruction five days per week and secondary students in for two days per week, or Stage 1, all students attending in-class instruction five days per week. The current stage, Stage 3, has K-5 students in class for two to three days per week, Grades 6-7 one day per week, and Grades 8-12, one day per week.

Also... Today's decision by Ottawa: continue banning foreign nationals from entering Canada comes after the European Union agreed to allow some tourists to enter the EU beginning tomorrow. Canada is among the 15 countries on the EU's so-called "safe" list.

Lerxst1992

pjl44 said:

Remember that Memorial Day Ozarks pool party so many people flipped their wig over? I went searching for updates and it's crickets. I couldn't find any follow-up reporting more recent than 2 weeks ago. From what I could find, there have only been 2 confirmed cases in attendees.

It would be nice if the media could follow some of these stories instead of just moving on to the next Can You Believe This picture. It would be really helpful to have some understanding of what impact events like that have.

What, 350,000 new cases per week isn’t enough?

At that point in time, it was a stunning image. The US is now on an island with Russia and Brazil. 

Americans wanted their liberty so badly we are one of the few modern nations that will not be allowed to freely travel the EU. Lovin my liberty!

To get an accurate answer, MO would need an army of contact tracers, something that red states don’t exactly believe in. The media did its job, it showed the shocking image of partygoers flaunting health guidelines. Following up with contact tracing would be the state’s job.

pjl44

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

Remember that Memorial Day Ozarks pool party so many people flipped their wig over? I went searching for updates and it's crickets. I couldn't find any follow-up reporting more recent than 2 weeks ago. From what I could find, there have only been 2 confirmed cases in attendees.

It would be nice if the media could follow some of these stories instead of just moving on to the next Can You Believe This picture. It would be really helpful to have some understanding of what impact events like that have.

What, 350,000 new cases per week isn’t enough?

At that point in time, it was a stunning image. The US is now on an island with Russia and Brazil. 

Americans wanted their liberty so badly we are one of the few modern nations that will not be allowed to freely travel the EU. Lovin my liberty!

To get an accurate answer, MO would need an army of contact tracers, something that red states don’t exactly believe in. The media did its job, it showed the shocking image of partygoers flaunting health guidelines. Following up with contact tracing would be the state’s job.

There are many informative journalistic angles I could see being taken that don't involve operating a contact tracing program. For example:

- Is the state or municipality running a contact tracing program? If so, what are the results here? If not, why not?
- Contact the business and try to understand where their customers came from? How much info can you get and can you attempt to correlate that with any case data?
- Have staff reported any positive tests? Anything else on site that might help create a link?

If you're saying the media's only job is to snap Look At This Bullshit pictures, stoke angst, and move on to the next one, that's less than useless. Tabloids at least investigate.

pjl44

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

Remember that Memorial Day Ozarks pool party so many people flipped their wig over? I went searching for updates and it's crickets. I couldn't find any follow-up reporting more recent than 2 weeks ago. From what I could find, there have only been 2 confirmed cases in attendees.

It would be nice if the media could follow some of these stories instead of just moving on to the next Can You Believe This picture. It would be really helpful to have some understanding of what impact events like that have.

What, 350,000 new cases per week isn’t enough?

At that point in time, it was a stunning image. The US is now on an island with Russia and Brazil. 

Americans wanted their liberty so badly we are one of the few modern nations that will not be allowed to freely travel the EU. Lovin my liberty!

To get an accurate answer, MO would need an army of contact tracers, something that red states don’t exactly believe in. The media did its job, it showed the shocking image of partygoers flaunting health guidelines. Following up with contact tracing would be the state’s job.

Also, it's pretty rich to moan about "red states" when the response from your very blue state has been nothing short of catastrophic. There is plenty to criticize other states about, but if I were a New Yorker I'd be doing so with a heaping dose of humility.

https://www.propublica.org/article/fire-through-dry-grass-andrew-cuomo-saw-covid-19-threat-to-nursing-homes-then-he-risked-adding-to-it/amp

Spiritual_Chaos

The celebrity the Swedes would prefer to share a beer with this summer is state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, according to a recent Novus survey conducted by Sweden's Breweries.

The criminologist Leif GW Persson is thus losing first place as the Swedes' favorite beer company, and ends up in second place. In place three is Jimmie Åkesson, place four King Carl XVI Gustaf, place five Stefan Löfven, place six Crown Princess Victoria, place seven Jonas Sjöstedt, place eight Jill Johnson, place nine Tomas Ledin and place ten Zlatan.

https://live.aftonbladet.se/supernytt/news/5efc3379d717b20011a84f81

PJNB

The small amusement park in our neighbouring province PEI is opened back up. They have some pretty good guidelines with a required mask policy outside of the waterpark and other normal measures that we have become accustomed to seeing. The problem is for our family though we booked this trip before the shit hit the fan based off of spending the weekend here and now we will not be able to go to the park due to our 5 year old, 4 year old and 2 year old having to wear a mask. I 100% get why they are doing it and am happy that they are able to open safely for the time being but there is no chance that my kids will keep a mask on. We have tried already multiple times and the meltdowns were not fun. First world problem and we will still go for the lovely beaches but we can get all of that here and the trip was for the kids so I am bummed for them. Over the next couple of weeks I am going to try and teach them how to wear a mask around the house comfortably and maybe find some cool designed ones for them. Maybe that will work. Hope everyone is enjoying their summer so far. Cheers!

Halifax2TheMax

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The celebrity the Swedes would prefer to share a beer with this summer is state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, according to a recent Novus survey conducted by Sweden's Breweries.

The criminologist Leif GW Persson is thus losing first place as the Swedes' favorite beer company, and ends up in second place. In place three is Jimmie Åkesson, place four King Carl XVI Gustaf, place five Stefan Löfven, place six Crown Princess Victoria, place seven Jonas Sjöstedt, place eight Jill Johnson, place nine Tomas Ledin and place ten Zlatan.

https://live.aftonbladet.se/supernytt/news/5efc3379d717b20011a84f81

Lay your waste pipe elsewhere with your empty poster tubes full of air. Stefan number 5???!!! Sandkastens halts maul! Stefan and beer on Elm Street would be number 1!!!

mickeyrat

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Poncier

PJNB said:

The small amusement park in our neighbouring province PEI is opened back up. They have some pretty good guidelines with a required mask policy outside of the waterpark and other normal measures that we have become accustomed to seeing. The problem is for our family though we booked this trip before the shit hit the fan based off of spending the weekend here and now we will not be able to go to the park due to our 5 year old, 4 year old and 2 year old having to wear a mask. I 100% get why they are doing it and am happy that they are able to open safely for the time being but there is no chance that my kids will keep a mask on. We have tried already multiple times and the meltdowns were not fun. First world problem and we will still go for the lovely beaches but we can get all of that here and the trip was for the kids so I am bummed for them. Over the next couple of weeks I am going to try and teach them how to wear a mask around the house comfortably and maybe find some cool designed ones for them. Maybe that will work. Hope everyone is enjoying their summer so far. Cheers!

I would think your 2 year old at least would be exempt from having to wear a mask.
And for the others, try to find something they like for a mask design, Etsy has all kinds of options, you can find Disney prints and any number of kid themed printed cloth masks in kid sizes.

Spiritual_Chaos

Halifax2TheMax said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The celebrity the Swedes would prefer to share a beer with this summer is state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, according to a recent Novus survey conducted by Sweden's Breweries.

The criminologist Leif GW Persson is thus losing first place as the Swedes' favorite beer company, and ends up in second place. In place three is Jimmie Åkesson, place four King Carl XVI Gustaf, place five Stefan Löfven, place six Crown Princess Victoria, place seven Jonas Sjöstedt, place eight Jill Johnson, place nine Tomas Ledin and place ten Zlatan.

https://live.aftonbladet.se/supernytt/news/5efc3379d717b20011a84f81

Lay your waste pipe elsewhere with your empty poster tubes full of air. Stefan number 5???!!! Sandkastens halts maul! Stefan and beer on Elm Street would be number 1!!!

zzz

Halifax2TheMax

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

The celebrity the Swedes would prefer to share a beer with this summer is state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell, according to a recent Novus survey conducted by Sweden's Breweries.

The criminologist Leif GW Persson is thus losing first place as the Swedes' favorite beer company, and ends up in second place. In place three is Jimmie Åkesson, place four King Carl XVI Gustaf, place five Stefan Löfven, place six Crown Princess Victoria, place seven Jonas Sjöstedt, place eight Jill Johnson, place nine Tomas Ledin and place ten Zlatan.

https://live.aftonbladet.se/supernytt/news/5efc3379d717b20011a84f81

Lay your waste pipe elsewhere with your empty poster tubes full of air. Stefan number 5???!!! Sandkastens halts maul! Stefan and beer on Elm Street would be number 1!!!

zzz

Sorry, did I wake you?