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  • cutzcutz Posts: 11,825
    https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/12/cdc-panel-clears-pfizer-covid-vaccine-for-people-over-age-of-16.html

    HEALTH AND SCIENCE

    CDC panel clears Pfizer Covid vaccine for people 16 years and older, clearing another pivotal hurdle

    PUBLISHED SAT, DEC 12 20202:53 PM EST
  • kce8kce8 Posts: 1,636
    23scidoo said:
    How long should I quarantine for, before going to stay with riskgorupperson?

    Trying to figure out when I will do my last grocery shopping.
    @lastexitlondon is right..you will break quarantine by taking the train..
    I know the train ride will break quarantine. That is one risk I will take. Or if I can get my brother to come pick me up.

    But I have my covid-19 certified mask, I will travel mid-day and not on a weekend when there are the least amount of passengers. Etc.
    Sorry, but that's the risk your Mom will have to take!
    mcgruff10 is absolutely right - just rent a car, I'm sure your Mom is worth it. :)

    I just made the decision to stay away from my parents till Christmas. Cases are going through the roof here in Germany and I just learned that a couple I know and at my age are both positive now. They are living in the same small town like my parents. Time for them to let me take care of their needs again and stay at home for the rest of the year. I'm sure we'll get another hard lock-down again on Wednesday anyway. Just too late for being safe around Xmas!

    Stay safe all!
  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    kce8 said:
    23scidoo said:
    How long should I quarantine for, before going to stay with riskgorupperson?

    Trying to figure out when I will do my last grocery shopping.
    @lastexitlondon is right..you will break quarantine by taking the train..
    I know the train ride will break quarantine. That is one risk I will take. Or if I can get my brother to come pick me up.

    But I have my covid-19 certified mask, I will travel mid-day and not on a weekend when there are the least amount of passengers. Etc.
    Sorry, but that's the risk your Mom will have to take!
    mcgruff10 is absolutely right - just rent a car, I'm sure your Mom is worth it. :)

    I just made the decision to stay away from my parents till Christmas. Cases are going through the roof here in Germany and I just learned that a couple I know and at my age are both positive now. They are living in the same small town like my parents. Time for them to let me take care of their needs again and stay at home for the rest of the year. I'm sure we'll get another hard lock-down again on Wednesday anyway. Just too late for being safe around Xmas!

    Stay safe all!
    I am really curious how Canada is getting vaccines out to the public before you guys in Germany are able to do. Looks like it will only be weeks apart if that but we are getting our shipment from Germany any day now and just find it odd that the country making the vaccine is not using first or the very least at the same time as the countries they are selling it to. Hope you guys can make it through the next month and this vaccine starts putting a decline in hospitalizations and deaths. Stay safe to you as well!
  • kce8 said:
    Sorry, but that's the risk your Mom will have to take! 
    We'll she's the one telling me to come, so yes. She doesn't want to be all alone over christmas. We have cancelled being at my sisters place (like we use to) and with her kids, and my brothers etc.

    Will just be me and mom. And my cat.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,652
    Your cat, the superspeader   =)
  • tish said:
    Your cat, the superspeader   =)

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,652
    edited December 2020
    Edit for content.
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  • Where’s the plateau? Or the corner?


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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    edited December 2020
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/first-doses-covid-19-vaccine-1.5839614

    8% of our population will be vaccinated by the end of March in Canada just by the Pfizer vaccine alone. That is a lot more than I expected. For those that thought we had to wait until the countries that were making the vaccine to get all of theirs first what do you think now about how the Trudeau government is handling this? 
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    Que sera,sera.
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    A link to more information on the Health Canada website regarding the anaphylaxis issue and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

    From my read, there's no mention that the vaccine or manufacturing process includes any of the common allergens, so the anaphylaxis is probably either due to the subunit proteins themselves, or possibly a spurious result unrelated to the vaccine itself. 

    https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2020/74543a-eng.php
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  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    PJNB said:
    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/first-doses-covid-19-vaccine-1.5839614

    8% of our population will be vaccinated by the end of March in Canada just by the Pfizer vaccine alone. That is a lot more than I expected. For those that thought we had to wait until the countries that were making the vaccine to get all of theirs first what do you think now about how the Trudeau government is handling this? 
    Are 8% vaccinated now?  When it comes to Trudeau I’ll wait and see...he his a lier and the CBC is his lap dog

    after-all the carbon tax was not going to increase according to Trudeau and his lapdogs...and here we are.

    Trudeau is just a corrupt creep.


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  • SpunkieSpunkie Posts: 6,652
    A link to more information on the Health Canada website regarding the anaphylaxis issue and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

    From my read, there's no mention that the vaccine or manufacturing process includes any of the common allergens, so the anaphylaxis is probably either due to the subunit proteins themselves, or possibly a spurious result unrelated to the vaccine itself. 

    https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2020/74543a-eng.php
    Thanks for the primary source link. I hadn't checked out that section yet. I forget what part of medicine your specialty is, but this sure seems up your alley Hope you've been getting some rock wall climbing in!
  • oftenreadingoftenreading Posts: 12,845
    tish said:
    A link to more information on the Health Canada website regarding the anaphylaxis issue and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine.

    From my read, there's no mention that the vaccine or manufacturing process includes any of the common allergens, so the anaphylaxis is probably either due to the subunit proteins themselves, or possibly a spurious result unrelated to the vaccine itself. 

    https://healthycanadians.gc.ca/recall-alert-rappel-avis/hc-sc/2020/74543a-eng.php
    Thanks for the primary source link. I hadn't checked out that section yet. I forget what part of medicine your specialty is, but this sure seems up your alley Hope you've been getting some rock wall climbing in!
    No climbing, sadly. The gym is open but I’ve been staying away with the hope of remaining healthy for the few people I will see in person this Christmas. I sure miss it. 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    A big day today in the fight against the Corona Virus in North America. Both the USA and Canada are having their first day of vaccinations being distributed to the healthcare workers and part of the vulnerable population. 

    It is estimated now that everyone that will want to be vaccinated will have been done so by September way ahead of what was previously said. The numbers seem to always be conservative so fingers crossed we can be ahead of that timeline as well. 
  • PJNB said:
    A big day today in the fight against the Corona Virus in North America. Both the USA and Canada are having their first day of vaccinations being distributed to the healthcare workers and part of the vulnerable population. 

    It is estimated now that everyone that will want to be vaccinated will have been done so by September way ahead of what was previously said. The numbers seem to always be conservative so fingers crossed we can be ahead of that timeline as well. 
    i'm really fucking disappointed in humans today. the MB government set up a phone line for those first in line for the vaccine to call and make their appointment; this number was only distributed internally to health care workers. we have 900 doses at the ready. 

    the phone line got 100,000 calls in the first day (Manitoba's population is only 1.3 million). yeah, obviously the phone number leaked and selfish pricks who aren't on the front lines in health care called to try to weasel their way to the front of the vaccination line. there were stories of so many people deserving of the front of the line (ICU doctors and nurses) that couldn't get through to make their appointment. 

    i guess this was to be expected. but just so disappointing. 
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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,498
    edited December 2020
    Failure (by the world) having to be rescued by a vaccine, instead of managing the pandemic without it and  having a vaccine to stop it from blowing again in the future.

    Except for New Zealand and some asian countries, or whatever. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Meltdown99Meltdown99 Posts: 10,739
    edited December 2020
    Failure (by the world) having to be rescued by a vaccine, instead of managing the pandemic without it and  having a vaccine to stop it from blowing again in the future.

    Except for New Zealand and some asian countries, or whatever. 
    Failure by China by not informing the world soon enough

    Failure by the west not to hold China accountable 

    but hey you can get 75 inch tv for 200

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  • Im not sure its a failure  to need a vaccine. Look at polio as one example 
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,430
    edited December 2020
    Im not sure its a failure  to need a vaccine. Look at polio as one example 

    Yeah, if I was going to make a list of failures in response to this pandemic, "having to be rescued by a vaccine" wouldn't even be considered. 
  • Im not sure its a failure  to need a vaccine. Look at polio as one example 
    i see what he's saying. all we all had to do was get 7 billion people from all walks of life to agree to not leave their house for 3 weeks and not panic. 
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  • dignin said:
    Rich nations, like Canada, have bought too many coronavirus vaccines: Amnesty International - National | Globalnews.ca

    Math is not the Prime Minister's strength.  Corruption is more of his strength....
    You're upset that Trudeau acquired too many vaccines? 
    Conservatives here were raging that he didn't get enough, now they are raging that he got too much. Even though it has been explicitly stated that we will be giving to less fortunate countries.

    Turns out conservatives in Canada share many characteristics as conservatives in the US. One of them being no shame.
    And more on that theme - conservatives last week were irate that Canada wouldn't receive vaccine until the first quarter of 2021, complaining that government incompetency meant we were destined to be one of the "have not" countries. Now that the process of review and approval  has gone smoother than expected and vaccine is expected to arrive next week, the conservatives are screaming that the federal government "lied" to the public about the timeline so "how can the public trust them on anything?". Getting your digs in supersedes being pleased about a positive outcome for the country. 
    advice: don't follow Theo Fleury on twitter. he's the Aubrey Huff of Canadian social media athlete politics. 

    advice: don't assume anyone else is on twitter.
    Unfollowing AOC and Obama now!
    If it makes you happy. 
    You missed the sarcasm apparently...
    You did too 
    Mine was clearly sarcastic, with you, no one knows?

    This was also sarcastic and looking for a song lyric to follow...



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  • static111static111 Posts: 4,889
    tish said:
    Your cat, the superspeader   =)

    What a sweet cat!
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  • We are now in the highest restrictions.  
    This shit is real. The  virus has mutated in the south here. They  say 1000 cases of new strain
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  • seeing the footage of front line workers getting the vaccine makes me very happy. hopefully it is as safe and effective as the studies reported.
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  • Failure (by the world) having to be rescued by a vaccine, instead of managing the pandemic without it and  having a vaccine to stop it from blowing again in the future.

    Except for New Zealand and some asian countries, or whatever. 
    Failure by China by not informing the world soon enough

    Failure by the west not to hold China accountable 

    but hey you can get 75 inch tv for 200

    Lol. Now why did you go to that talking point immediately.... hmmmmmmmmmmmmm--

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  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,415
    Ridiculous imo. 
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