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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,353
    JimmyV said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    Vox was still pushing this horseshit last night. They doubled down and made the tweet even worse than the headline.


    The injustice, I weep for Hannity.
    It's not even about Hannity. You read the headline then read the story and it's journalism that we should be weeping for. 
    If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here. 
    Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point. 
    Embarrassing. I was embarrassed for him. Nobody talks about stuff like that though. If trump made that video, forget it. That’s a big problem. People arent stupid, even though certain posters here make it seem like anyone who isn’t a Biden supporter is dumb. People notice things like that , and it only helps Trump. This whole attitude is counterproductive towards getting him out of office. 

    Chris Cuomo is a cable new anchor. Donald Trump is President of the United States. Comparing the two is odd. Hannity would be a fair comparison in this case, and probably better illustrate the point. But reaching for Trump kind of shows why defending Fox News is seen as defending Trump.
    I never defended Fox News. 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,353
    JimmyV said:
    Has anyone here experienced loved ones dealing with other health issues while this is going on? My mom needs to go in for heart surgery in the next few weeks. She is in Florida, I am in Massachusetts. I can't travel to her for risk of infection. Can't get in to visit her if I could. Can't be there to help with recovery. Can't really help at all. And god knows what Florida will be like a month from now once these states start opening up.
    Sorry to hear. I wish a had a solution but that’s a tough situation. I hope it all works out. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,826
    JimmyV said:
    Has anyone here experienced loved ones dealing with other health issues while this is going on? My mom needs to go in for heart surgery in the next few weeks. She is in Florida, I am in Massachusetts. I can't travel to her for risk of infection. Can't get in to visit her if I could. Can't be there to help with recovery. Can't really help at all. And god knows what Florida will be like a month from now once these states start opening up.
    Damn yeah I’m not sure how it is in Florida but here in NY at this hospital it would not be a good idea there’s too much cross infection specially in a hospital that was full of Covid19 patients like this one ,I don’t wanna make you panic just stating that I would not recommend coming to this hospital at this point in this crisis.
    Hoping for the best to your mom & you ..
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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,594
    Another one to file under "if you're looking for a glimmer of hope"


  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,598
    pjl44 said:
    Another one to file under "if you're looking for a glimmer of hope"



    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,965
    pjl44 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    Vox was still pushing this horseshit last night. They doubled down and made the tweet even worse than the headline.


    The injustice, I weep for Hannity.
    It's not even about Hannity. You read the headline then read the story and it's journalism that we should be weeping for. 
    If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here. 
    Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point. 
    You mean the one where he came up the stairs like he was Rocky Balboa after a fight? 

  • Ledbetterman10
    Ledbetterman10 Posts: 17,005
    edited April 2020
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Sounds like Chris has some anger issues. Didn't he also snap when someone called him "Fredo"
    Snapping because someone in the streets is harassing you in public is understandable. Can't blame him for that. What I didn't like was Cuomo OF COURSE playing the race card and suggesting that to call someone "Fredo" is racist against Italian-Americans. Give me a fucking break. When someone makes reference to Fredo Corleone, they're suggesting you're the stupid brother, nothing more. 
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  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,075
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
    In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."

    Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
    He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".

    Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
    - People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
    - The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.

    Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.

    - Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.

    Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.

    - The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.

    In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.


    - People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
    - The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
    money over humans??
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,598
    Ledbetterman10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Sounds like Chris has some anger issues. Didn't he also snap when someone called him "Fredo"
    Snapping because someone in the streets is harassing you in public is understandable. Can't blame him for that. What I didn't like was Cuomo OF COURSE playing the race card and suggesting that to call someone "Fredo" is racist against Italian-Americans. Give me a fucking break. When someone makes reference to Fred Corleone, they're suggesting you're the stupid brother, nothing more. 
    Don't have any problems with this take. 

    Strengthening the argument of himself as the victim with a "race card" is as cringy as reality-soap-opera-yourself in your basement with pointless "the beast comes out at night" updates when you catch corona. 
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,075

    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,826
    https://twitter.com/karainfla/status/1252941719626186752?s=21
    So how would a haircut get done? I guess the hairdresser could use a hedge trimmers they come in 4’ blades ..
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,594
    bbiggs said:
    pjl44 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    Vox was still pushing this horseshit last night. They doubled down and made the tweet even worse than the headline.


    The injustice, I weep for Hannity.
    It's not even about Hannity. You read the headline then read the story and it's journalism that we should be weeping for. 
    If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here. 
    Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point. 
    You mean the one where he came up the stairs like he was Rocky Balboa after a fight? 

    Ha ha. Yeah, someone needs to dub that music over it if they haven't already. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,598
    edited April 2020
    23scidoo said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
    In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."

    Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
    He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".

    Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
    - People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
    - The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.

    Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.

    - Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.

    Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.

    - The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.

    In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.


    - People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
    - The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
    money over humans??

     First, Giesecke is not a spokesperson for the swedish Public Health Agency.

    Second, "destroying economy" from a public health perspective is not about money, it's about humans. 

    The holistic approach to public health.

    Notice the last part: " In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says." - if that is the perception, then wrecking the economy and all that comes with that could be a measure to not take.
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,934
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    Vox was still pushing this horseshit last night. They doubled down and made the tweet even worse than the headline.


    The injustice, I weep for Hannity.
    It's not even about Hannity. You read the headline then read the story and it's journalism that we should be weeping for. 
    If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here. 
    Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point. 
    Embarrassing. I was embarrassed for him. Nobody talks about stuff like that though. If trump made that video, forget it. That’s a big problem. People arent stupid, even though certain posters here make it seem like anyone who isn’t a Biden supporter is dumb. People notice things like that , and it only helps Trump. This whole attitude is counterproductive towards getting him out of office. 
    Haha I just watched it. My favorite part is how he intentionally coughs on his wife, then says that he I are still taking it seriously and doesn’t hug anyone and just gives a little wave.
  • 23scidoo
    23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 20,075
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    23scidoo said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
    In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."

    Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
    He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".

    Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
    - People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
    - The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.

    Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.

    - Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.

    Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.

    - The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.

    In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.


    - People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
    - The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
    money over humans??

     First, Giesecke is not a spokesperson for the swedish Public Health Agency.

    Second, "destroying economy" from a public health perspective is not about money, it's about humans. 

    The holistic approach to public health.

    Notice the last part: " In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says." - if that is the perception, then wrecking the economy and all that comes with that could be a measure to not take. " In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says."
    that is tottaly wrong..do you think at the end of this for example, Italy will be at the same level with my country??..
    i'm not working for 40 days and i know very well the economy impact..
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,353
    edited April 2020
    mace1229 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    pjl44 said:
    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    Vox was still pushing this horseshit last night. They doubled down and made the tweet even worse than the headline.


    The injustice, I weep for Hannity.
    It's not even about Hannity. You read the headline then read the story and it's journalism that we should be weeping for. 
    If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here. 
    Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point. 
    Embarrassing. I was embarrassed for him. Nobody talks about stuff like that though. If trump made that video, forget it. That’s a big problem. People arent stupid, even though certain posters here make it seem like anyone who isn’t a Biden supporter is dumb. People notice things like that , and it only helps Trump. This whole attitude is counterproductive towards getting him out of office. 
    Haha I just watched it. My favorite part is how he intentionally coughs on his wife, then says that he I are still taking it seriously and doesn’t hug anyone and just gives a little wave.
    You are mistaken. You must’ve missed the best part. Which is him saying something like:
    im sorry I’m sweating, I just worked out, it happens 😂😂
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,676
    File under____________.


    It’s a good time to be in the water business: as the coronavirus outbreak spread in the US throughout March, bottled water sales increased 57% over the same period last year.

    But among the products, like toilet paper or hand sanitizer, that Americans are panic-buying, bottled water is unusual: there is no shortage of safe drinking water, and health officials have tried to assure people that public water supplies are not contaminated by the coronavirus. Hoarding bottled water simply isn’t necessary for most people.

    What’s more, most bottled water sold in the US comes from the same municipal sources that supply tap water – a fact probably unknown to most consumers.



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  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,636
    If you didn't get a chance to hear cuomo detract a reporter here you go.
    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/gov-cuomo-to-the-unemployed-get-an-essential-job-you-bums
  • jeffbr
    jeffbr Seattle Posts: 7,177
    josevolution said:
    https://twitter.com/karainfla/status/1252941719626186752?s=21
    So how would a haircut get done? I guess the hairdresser could use a hedge trimmers they come in 4’ blades ..
    Here's how it is done in the Netherlands, lol.

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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,892
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.
    In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."

    Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.
    He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".

    Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.
    - People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.
    - The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.

    Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.

    - Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.

    Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.

    - The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.

    In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.


    Is that like Mario Cart all the way strawberry road to a cafeteria where mom serves rainbows but doesn’t lose her job? Because covid? Or KISS?
    Sweden appears to be playing Mario Kart against someone they know they can't beat.  They just gave up to protect the economy.  Sacrificing people along the way to the Gods...er Virus.


     You don't know what you are talking about. Or you haven't been paying attention.

    But keep it up. Hahaha project much?
    hippiemom = goodness
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