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Spiritual_Chaos said:Sounds like Chris has some anger issues. Didn't he also snap when someone called him "Fredo"Kinda like how Swedes might get angry because their govt is trying to kill them?0
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I think most districts are doing that. We are required to post lessons and assignments for the week on Monday at 2:00 to allow flexibility. Some parents are still working, many aren’t. Most parents are taking care of kids that would normally be in school, so a rigid structure with online meetings just would’t work in most cases.dankind said:
The "educators" here just send us links either late Sunday night/early Monday morning. And then they just fuck off for the rest of the week as far as teaching is concerned. They do make one Zoom social call once a week. No education happening in those, though, it's just a wellness check of sorts, I think.what dreams said:
I'm in a very, very small district surrounded by very, very large districts. We were told to do absolutely nothing for several week before the leaders came up with a unified plan. The most consistently viable plan from what I can tell in all my reading is what we are doing -- pre-recorded lessons, one activity following up on the lesson, feedback, office hours once a week. Zoom has worked to modify its security features to assist schools with that.F Me In The Brain said:
I wondered how many teachers put up work assignments once a week vs taught classes online. Seems different things happening even in the same schools.what dreams said:
Yes, I am still getting paid. At the same time I feel grateful, I feel terribly guilty about it, knowing how much others are suffering who've lost their jobs. I am technically "working" until the end of May, which is when school was out for me in a normal year. By "working" -- I mean creating and posting weekly assignments that only 1/4 of my students are completing, answering a handful of emails a day, meeting once a week with my department. Dreaming big about next year when we go back. My district has been very reasonable about work-at-home structures and requirements, so compared to what a normal workday was like in my trauma flooded school pre-Covid, this is really not hard for me. I know teachers in other districts are being slammed and really not coping well. My main stressor right now is I can't stop imagining the horror shows that must be occurring in many of my students' homes while they are stuck there. My instructional coach told me today that they've already had several CPS reports going in by teachers who have been on Zoom calls with students and had to report things they saw in the background. My first Zoom "office hour" is Friday, and I have mixed feelings about it.mcgruff10 said:
You aren’t getting paid for May and June?what dreams said:
I'm a teacher. I get laid off two months every year anyway, so I'm used it. This year it's four. No biggie.Meltdown99 said:How long are some of you willing to be locked down for? As long as it takes?
The larger districts around me tried to go big with synchronous distance learning and it's been a complete disaster for them. One of them I previously worked for is a so-called premier leader of the nation- haha, bells and whistles I can attest to. Their Superintendent for IT just lost her job yesterday, it's been that bad. The ones who are successfully transitioning to true distance learning contracted out with companies like K-12 who have been doing it for decades. Yes, schools have been using tech in classrooms for a while in "blended learning" models. But no school system in this nation has the capacity to do what corporations like K-12 do. Nobody was ready for a situation like this. I guess we will moving forward :-).
And we're supposed to be in a good district.
It's why we chose this shitty nowhere town over other towns that actually have cultural institutions and other such things that make life worth living.
I've basically just told my kids that the school year is over and to do whatever the fuck they want. I'm sure they'll learn more from doing just that than they will by looking at IXL or Epic or whatever other bullshit websites these people try to come up with and send to us to feel as though they're worth a fuck. I've been on a mission to get the superintendent fired since well before the pandemic crisis hit. She's garbage.
As parents who did not study education, we're doing our part by trying to show them how school subjects apply to things we do, observe or sometimes don't even think about in our daily lives (e.g., cooking, gardening, playing music, Wiffle ball, four square, etc.). Besides, I was teaching math all wrong; they don't solve math problems in the same way we did when we were in school.
Our principal told us we have parents complaining there isn’t enough work and just as many complaining there’s too much. So that probably means there’s a good balance.We’ve tried several things and just had a meeting yesterday. The only think kids are consistently doing right now is a reading/worksheet. We’ve tried projects, research topics, virtual labs, etc. I’ll get maybe 25% of kids participate on those. I get about 70% participation in a reading and worksheet assignment. We usually accompany the reading with a video or recorded PowerPoint going over things too.0 -
Nice..Lerxst1992 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:Sounds like Chris has some anger issues. Didn't he also snap when someone called him "Fredo"Kinda like how Swedes might get angry because their govt is trying to kill them?Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
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In my district we are supposed to give twenty minutes of work a day per subject. I use QuickTime player to record my voice and explain each lesson. I did zoom twice a week but I would only have 5-10 kids show up out of a class of 26.Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0
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Is Mondays lesson for the following week provided? Monday at 2 seems an odd deadline for the week....but perhaps the lessons are provided for Tues-Mon?mace1229 said:
I think most districts are doing that. We are required to post lessons and assignments for the week on Monday at 2:00 to allow flexibility. Some parents are still working, many aren’t. Most parents are taking care of kids that would normally be in school, so a rigid structure with online meetings just would’t work in most cases.dankind said:
The "educators" here just send us links either late Sunday night/early Monday morning. And then they just fuck off for the rest of the week as far as teaching is concerned. They do make one Zoom social call once a week. No education happening in those, though, it's just a wellness check of sorts, I think.what dreams sa hiid:
I'm in a very, very small district surrounded by very, very large districts. We were told to do absolutely nothing for several week before the leaders came up with a unified plan. The most consistently viable plan from what I can tell in all my reading is what we are doing -- pre-recorded lessons, one activity following up on the lesson, feedback, office hours once a week. Zoom has worked to modify its security features to assist schools with that.F Me In The Brain said:
I wondered how many teachers put up work assignments once a week vs taught classes online. Seems different things happening even in the same schools.what dreams said:
Yes, I am still getting paid. At the same time I feel grateful, I feel terribly guilty about it, knowing how much others are suffering who've lost their jobs. I am technically "working" until the end of May, which is when school was out for me in a normal year. By "working" -- I mean creating and posting weekly assignments that only 1/4 of my students are completing, answering a handful of emails a day, meeting once a week with my department. Dreaming big about next year when we go back. My district has been very reasonable about work-at-home structures and requirements, so compared to what a normal workday was like in my trauma flooded school pre-Covid, this is really not hard for me. I know teachers in other districts are being slammed and really not coping well. My main stressor right now is I can't stop imagining the horror shows that must be occurring in many of my students' homes while they are stuck there. My instructional coach told me today that they've already had several CPS reports going in by teachers who have been on Zoom calls with students and had to report things they saw in the background. My first Zoom "office hour" is Friday, and I have mixed feelings about it.mcgruff10 said:
You aren’t getting paid for May and June?what dreams said:
I'm a teacher. I get laid off two months every year anyway, so I'm used it. This year it's four. No biggie.Meltdown99 said:How long are some of you willing to be locked down for? As long as it takes?
The larger districts around me tried to go big with synchronous distance learning and it's been a complete disaster for them. One of them I previously worked for is a so-called premier leader of the nation- haha, bells and whistles I can attest to. Their Superintendent for IT just lost her job yesterday, it's been that bad. The ones who are successfully transitioning to true distance learning contracted out with companies like K-12 who have been doing it for decades. Yes, schools have been using tech in classrooms for a while in "blended learning" models. But no school system in this nation has the capacity to do what corporations like K-12 do. Nobody was ready for a situation like this. I guess we will moving forward :-).
And we're supposed to be in a good district. It's why we chose this shitty nowhere town over other towns that actually have cultural institutions and other such things that make life worth living.
I've basically just told my kids that the school year is over and to do whatever the fuck they want. I'm sure they'll learn more from doing just that than they will by looking at IXL or Epic or whatever other bullshit websites these people try to come up with and send to us to feel as though they're worth a fuck. I've been on a mission to get the superintendent fired since well before the pandemic crisis hit. She's garbage.
As parents who did not study education, we're doing our part by trying to show them how school subjects apply to things we do, observe or sometimes don't even think about in our daily lives (e.g., cooking, gardening, playing music, Wiffle ball, four square, etc.). Besides, I was teaching math all wrong; they don't solve math problems in the same way we did when we were in school.
Our principal told us we have parents complaining there isn’t enough work and just as many complaining there’s too much. So that probably means there’s a good balance.We’ve tried several things and just had a meeting yesterday. The only think kids are consistently doing right now is a reading/worksheet. We’ve tried projects, research topics, virtual labs, etc. I’ll get maybe 25% of kids participate on those. I get about 70% participation in a reading and worksheet assignment. We usually accompany the reading with a video or recorded PowerPoint going over things too.
I'm sure there are lots of issues ...sounds like you are doing more than our district is asked to.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
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Did he call her an "idiot," or what she was claiming as "idiocy?" If I recall, he didn't call her an "idiot," but rather what she was trying to claim, "let Las Vegas be a control group," as idiocy. Particularly after he tried to reason with her.what dreams said:
Her being a fucking idiot is for us to decide. It's not Anderson Cooper's job to decide for us. His job is to present the facts -- the diagram of the Chinese dining table -- and to ask her to comment on it. If he doesn't agree with her answer, he needs to keep that to himself, or risk being forever labeled a biased reporter. Like I said, she showed herself to be a nut case in some respects. Give the viewers credit for understanding that. Nobody in the media even pretends to be objective anymore, and that's a major problem.Halifax2TheMax said:
You need to put his comment in the context of what he was asking and showing her. He was using the dining room map of a Chinese study that illustrated how one infected person at a table infected diners at nearby tables and the study saying the virus was carried by the air current of the dining room's AC system. After he asked if she would be going from casino to casino to ensure proper social distancing per CDC and Team Trump Treason's recommendations. Her reply? "I don't gamble," and "Anderson, we're not in China."what dreams said:
Last night I watched Anderson Cooper call the Mayor of Las Vegas an "idiot." Flat out just said, you are an idiot.pjl44 said:
This Gallup poll tells you all you need to know about the state of our relationship with the media. We all understand that Fox is full of shit. But, like you said, try to explain that the same applies to MSNBC, CNN, etc. and you'll get well-akshually'd into oblivion. There's a reason the "fake news" thing sticks, unfortunately.nicknyr15 said:
Embarrassing. I was embarrassed for him. Nobody talks about stuff like that though. If trump made that video, forget it. That’s a big problem. People arent stupid, even though certain posters here make it seem like anyone who isn’t a Biden supporter is dumb. People notice things like that , and it only helps Trump. This whole attitude is counterproductive towards getting him out of office.pjl44 said:
Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point.nicknyr15 said:
If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here.pjl44 said:
The mayor was making the argument that it's up to private businesses to put social distancing practices in place if they wish to open, not her job as mayor. At this point I do tend to feel that "letting the market decide" is a viable option, so I didn't disagree with the mayor, even though she seemed a bit like a nut in other ways. I tend to believe that businesses who choose to open probably won't see much business and eat the cost of opening, because "the market" -- that would be US, people -- don't want to go anywhere.
BUT, to have gotten to a point where "news anchors", even someone like Anderson Cooper whom I have always admired, to call a mayor an idiot as part of the interview -- it just isn't journalism anymore. It's all commentary, celebrity, ratings, sensationalism, all the time, on every channel. Our free press is in a crisis and I worry about the fate of our nation without responsible journalism.
So yea, she's a fucking idiot and if I was employed by one of those casinos, I wouldn't go back to work and probably be denied unemployment for doing so and if I were a gambler, I'd stay home and gamble online. She's a fucking idiot.
Just some empathy, not an endorsement -- but you have a mayor looking at the possibility of her town becoming a 21st century ghost town because of its reliance on a single industry. Nutso or not in her response to Cooper's questions, I feel for her and the people in Las Vegas. At this point, I am on the "let the markets decide" side of the fence, for a variety of reasons, some of which are not appropriate to say out loud.
Like Team trump Treason, these "idiots," "morons," "bullshit artists," need to be called out on their stupidity because the problem is, many viewers are too stupid to do so themselves.
Are you okay with opening up Las Vegas to the large Asian cliental that previously flocked from China, Singapore, Malaysia and other parts of Asia to gamble in Las Vegas? Direct flights from Beijing? I mean, if we're going to open up America "again," lets open her up, right?
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Dankind, the things you are doing with your children are what we should be doing in public schools. The canned technology and the standards-based Common Core testing regime was foisted on us all by corporations and politicians who know as little about education "as parents who did not study education." Teachers have long been left out of the equation in designing curriculum. I've been teaching since 1993, and I have not been asked -- TRUSTED -- to design my own curriculum since 2003 when NCLB went into law. I totally feel your frustration, but it's a political issue that goes well above your Superintendent's head. You should be directing your energies at firing your state and your federal elected leaders and your state board of education. Your superintendent is appointed by your local school board, and those people are accountable to the state who is accountable the feds who have been bought and paid for by big tech corporations and conservative think tanks. For the record, Obama was no better for public education than GW Bush. We thought he would fix things, but he made it worse by tying federal money to requiring states to tie teachers' evaluations to these stupid standardized tests. Those of us smart enough to game the system -- i.e., teach to the test so we can keep our jobs -- live with the guilt everyday knowing we need to do better for our kids. Teachers are absolutely powerless pawns in this process.dankind said:
The "educators" here just send us links either late Sunday night/early Monday morning. And then they just fuck off for the rest of the week as far as teaching is concerned. They do make one Zoom social call once a week. No education happening in those, though, it's just a wellness check of sorts, I think.what dreams said:
I'm in a very, very small district surrounded by very, very large districts. We were told to do absolutely nothing for several week before the leaders came up with a unified plan. The most consistently viable plan from what I can tell in all my reading is what we are doing -- pre-recorded lessons, one activity following up on the lesson, feedback, office hours once a week. Zoom has worked to modify its security features to assist schools with that.F Me In The Brain said:
I wondered how many teachers put up work assignments once a week vs taught classes online. Seems different things happening even in the same schools.what dreams said:
Yes, I am still getting paid. At the same time I feel grateful, I feel terribly guilty about it, knowing how much others are suffering who've lost their jobs. I am technically "working" until the end of May, which is when school was out for me in a normal year. By "working" -- I mean creating and posting weekly assignments that only 1/4 of my students are completing, answering a handful of emails a day, meeting once a week with my department. Dreaming big about next year when we go back. My district has been very reasonable about work-at-home structures and requirements, so compared to what a normal workday was like in my trauma flooded school pre-Covid, this is really not hard for me. I know teachers in other districts are being slammed and really not coping well. My main stressor right now is I can't stop imagining the horror shows that must be occurring in many of my students' homes while they are stuck there. My instructional coach told me today that they've already had several CPS reports going in by teachers who have been on Zoom calls with students and had to report things they saw in the background. My first Zoom "office hour" is Friday, and I have mixed feelings about it.mcgruff10 said:
You aren’t getting paid for May and June?what dreams said:
I'm a teacher. I get laid off two months every year anyway, so I'm used it. This year it's four. No biggie.Meltdown99 said:How long are some of you willing to be locked down for? As long as it takes?
The larger districts around me tried to go big with synchronous distance learning and it's been a complete disaster for them. One of them I previously worked for is a so-called premier leader of the nation- haha, bells and whistles I can attest to. Their Superintendent for IT just lost her job yesterday, it's been that bad. The ones who are successfully transitioning to true distance learning contracted out with companies like K-12 who have been doing it for decades. Yes, schools have been using tech in classrooms for a while in "blended learning" models. But no school system in this nation has the capacity to do what corporations like K-12 do. Nobody was ready for a situation like this. I guess we will moving forward :-).
And we're supposed to be in a good district. It's why we chose this shitty nowhere town over other towns that actually have cultural institutions and other such things that make life worth living.
I've basically just told my kids that the school year is over and to do whatever the fuck they want. I'm sure they'll learn more from doing just that than they will by looking at IXL or Epic or whatever other bullshit websites these people try to come up with and send to us to feel as though they're worth a fuck. I've been on a mission to get the superintendent fired since well before the pandemic crisis hit. She's garbage.
As parents who did not study education, we're doing our part by trying to show them how school subjects apply to things we do, observe or sometimes don't even think about in our daily lives (e.g., cooking, gardening, playing music, Wiffle ball, four square, etc.). Besides, I was teaching math all wrong; they don't solve math problems in the same way we did when we were in school.
Please be patient with your kids' teachers right now. I am blessed to be a single woman at home with a mom who sits in her recliner all day. All I've got to do is make sure she eats and takes her medicine, so I have time to reach out to my students. My problem is their parents don't speak English, so when I call and they hear my English voice, they hang up on me. No lie. My colleagues have a variety of family situations. Most of them are trying to home-school their own young children whose teachers are posting work while also doing their own jobs. In other words, your kids' teachers are doing exactly the same thing you're trying to manage yourself: work at home and educate their own kids while trying to stay healthy and find toilet paper.
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.pjl44 said:Another one to file under "if you're looking for a glimmer of hope"What does a Sag Harbor pizzeria in a region much harder hit than China have to do with China and why would we trust one word that comes out of China anyway?0 -
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Nice..Lerxst1992 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:Sounds like Chris has some anger issues. Didn't he also snap when someone called him "Fredo"Kinda like how Swedes might get angry because their govt is trying to kill them?
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He shouldn't be out and about if he has covid. I thought there were some things we could all agree on.Lerxst1992 said:pjl44 said:
Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point.nicknyr15 said:
If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here.pjl44 said:Did C. Cuomo lie or did he publicly exhibit stressed out behavior while suffering from life threatening disease?0 -
I can’t give one shred of credence to these fuckers. Hopefully not many do.Kat said:There are some real monsters out there. :(0 -
I'm guessing the picture is related to his point on restaurants serving outdoors. Point taken on China but Scott Gottlieb has a solid background and has been a good source of info so I'm taking that he scrutinized it to some degree.Lerxst1992 said:.
.pjl44 said:Another one to file under "if you're looking for a glimmer of hope"What does a Sag Harbor pizzeria in a region much harder hit than China have to do with China and why would we trust one word that comes out of China anyway?
With the glimmer of hope stuff I post, I totally understand if someone wants to brush off some or all of them. Most feel like longshots right now. I'm just trying to find stuff that could be pointing in a positive direction and is coming from a credible source.0 -
You mean getting angry like this? Or another kind of angry?Lerxst1992 said:Spiritual_Chaos said:Sounds like Chris has some anger issues. Didn't he also snap when someone called him "Fredo"Kinda like how Swedes might get angry because their govt is trying to kill them?
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HTM: "Many viewers are too stupid to do so themselves."Halifax2TheMax said:
Did he call her an "idiot," or what she was claiming as "idiocy?" If I recall, he didn't call her an "idiot," but rather what she was trying to claim, "let Las Vegas be a control group," as idiocy. Particularly after he tried to reason with her.what dreams said:
Her being a fucking idiot is for us to decide. It's not Anderson Cooper's job to decide for us. His job is to present the facts -- the diagram of the Chinese dining table -- and to ask her to comment on it. If he doesn't agree with her answer, he needs to keep that to himself, or risk being forever labeled a biased reporter. Like I said, she showed herself to be a nut case in some respects. Give the viewers credit for understanding that. Nobody in the media even pretends to be objective anymore, and that's a major problem.Halifax2TheMax said:
You need to put his comment in the context of what he was asking and showing her. He was using the dining room map of a Chinese study that illustrated how one infected person at a table infected diners at nearby tables and the study saying the virus was carried by the air current of the dining room's AC system. After he asked if she would be going from casino to casino to ensure proper social distancing per CDC and Team Trump Treason's recommendations. Her reply? "I don't gamble," and "Anderson, we're not in China."what dreams said:
Last night I watched Anderson Cooper call the Mayor of Las Vegas an "idiot." Flat out just said, you are an idiot.pjl44 said:
This Gallup poll tells you all you need to know about the state of our relationship with the media. We all understand that Fox is full of shit. But, like you said, try to explain that the same applies to MSNBC, CNN, etc. and you'll get well-akshually'd into oblivion. There's a reason the "fake news" thing sticks, unfortunately.nicknyr15 said:
Embarrassing. I was embarrassed for him. Nobody talks about stuff like that though. If trump made that video, forget it. That’s a big problem. People arent stupid, even though certain posters here make it seem like anyone who isn’t a Biden supporter is dumb. People notice things like that , and it only helps Trump. This whole attitude is counterproductive towards getting him out of office.pjl44 said:
Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point.nicknyr15 said:
If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here.pjl44 said:
The mayor was making the argument that it's up to private businesses to put social distancing practices in place if they wish to open, not her job as mayor. At this point I do tend to feel that "letting the market decide" is a viable option, so I didn't disagree with the mayor, even though she seemed a bit like a nut in other ways. I tend to believe that businesses who choose to open probably won't see much business and eat the cost of opening, because "the market" -- that would be US, people -- don't want to go anywhere.
BUT, to have gotten to a point where "news anchors", even someone like Anderson Cooper whom I have always admired, to call a mayor an idiot as part of the interview -- it just isn't journalism anymore. It's all commentary, celebrity, ratings, sensationalism, all the time, on every channel. Our free press is in a crisis and I worry about the fate of our nation without responsible journalism.
So yea, she's a fucking idiot and if I was employed by one of those casinos, I wouldn't go back to work and probably be denied unemployment for doing so and if I were a gambler, I'd stay home and gamble online. She's a fucking idiot.
Just some empathy, not an endorsement -- but you have a mayor looking at the possibility of her town becoming a 21st century ghost town because of its reliance on a single industry. Nutso or not in her response to Cooper's questions, I feel for her and the people in Las Vegas. At this point, I am on the "let the markets decide" side of the fence, for a variety of reasons, some of which are not appropriate to say out loud.
Like Team trump Treason, these "idiots," "morons," "bullshit artists," need to be called out on their stupidity because the problem is, many viewers are too stupid to do so themselves.
Are you okay with opening up Las Vegas to the large Asian cliental that previously flocked from China, Singapore, Malaysia and other parts of Asia to gamble in Las Vegas? Direct flights from Beijing? I mean, if we're going to open up America "again," lets open her up, right?
You're a real piece of work. You're basically arguing that we need the media to tell us what to think.
I hate to break it to ya, but yes, we are going top open up soon. We have no fucking choice. Whether it's tomorrow, two weeks, August -- whatever. THE MARKET WILL DECIDE. Every single state in America could go full open tomorrow, and I guarantee you, nobody -- or very few people -- will go anywhere. Businesses that open too early without safety measures in place will fail anyway. Smart business people will know that and will wait to open when they know they can protect their workers and customers. To do the opposite will be financial ruin for them, those that aren't ruined already. This idea that there is this magical date in the near future when we will all be safe from this disease is lunacy. Do you suppose we wait two fucking years for a vaccine, none of which are 100% effective, before we open up again?
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This is a pretty naive view of journalism. It's been commentary, celebrity, ratings, sensationalism since the beginning of time.what dreams said:
Last night I watched Anderson Cooper call the Mayor of Las Vegas an "idiot." Flat out just said, you are an idiot.pjl44 said:
This Gallup poll tells you all you need to know about the state of our relationship with the media. We all understand that Fox is full of shit. But, like you said, try to explain that the same applies to MSNBC, CNN, etc. and you'll get well-akshually'd into oblivion. There's a reason the "fake news" thing sticks, unfortunately.nicknyr15 said:
Embarrassing. I was embarrassed for him. Nobody talks about stuff like that though. If trump made that video, forget it. That’s a big problem. People arent stupid, even though certain posters here make it seem like anyone who isn’t a Biden supporter is dumb. People notice things like that , and it only helps Trump. This whole attitude is counterproductive towards getting him out of office.pjl44 said:
Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point.nicknyr15 said:
If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here.pjl44 said:
The mayor was making the argument that it's up to private businesses to put social distancing practices in place if they wish to open, not her job as mayor. At this point I do tend to feel that "letting the market decide" is a viable option, so I didn't disagree with the mayor, even though she seemed a bit like a nut in other ways. I tend to believe that businesses who choose to open probably won't see much business and eat the cost of opening, because "the market" -- that would be US, people -- don't want to go anywhere.
BUT, to have gotten to a point where "news anchors", even someone like Anderson Cooper whom I have always admired, to call a mayor an idiot as part of the interview -- it just isn't journalism anymore. It's all commentary, celebrity, ratings, sensationalism, all the time, on every channel. Our free press is in a crisis and I worry about the fate of our nation without responsible journalism.
https://littlevillagemag.com/a-true-history-of-fake-news-part-one/
Any news organization claiming to be 'fair and balanced' is just pulling the wool over your eyes.
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This is a false equivalency. There is nothing on the opposite side of the spectrum that resembles Fox News in terms extremism or popularity. Part of that is probably owed to the fact that a vacuum exists between centrist sources and far-right Fox News. If you're a conservative, your like-minded options are a party propaganda network that has eagerly embraced post-truth and cult worship, or pounding sand and reading the WSJ; there are no center-right sources. Left of center, meanwhile, is peppered with a healthy spread of center-left sources, including the oft-maligned and obnoxiously centrist NYT and WaPo. Those center-left sources are far more popular than any far-left sources, which remain relegated to relatively obscure internet operations (and certainly not "MSM").nicknyr15 said:
If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here.pjl44 said:Post edited by Mike D88 on
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I don't disparage my kids' teachers too much. I do disparage the superintendent, though.what dreams said:
Dankind, the things you are doing with your children are what we should be doing in public schools. The canned technology and the standards-based Common Core testing regime was foisted on us all by corporations and politicians who know as little about education "as parents who did not study education." Teachers have long been left out of the equation in designing curriculum. I've been teaching since 1993, and I have not been asked -- TRUSTED -- to design my own curriculum since 2003 when NCLB went into law. I totally feel your frustration, but it's a political issue that goes well above your Superintendent's head. You should be directing your energies at firing your state and your federal elected leaders and your state board of education. Your superintendent is appointed by your local school board, and those people are accountable to the state who is accountable the feds who have been bought and paid for by big tech corporations and conservative think tanks. For the record, Obama was no better for public education than GW Bush. We thought he would fix things, but he made it worse by tying federal money to requiring states to tie teachers' evaluations to these stupid standardized tests. Those of us smart enough to game the system -- i.e., teach to the test so we can keep our jobs -- live with the guilt everyday knowing we need to do better for our kids. Teachers are absolutely powerless pawns in this process.dankind said:
The "educators" here just send us links either late Sunday night/early Monday morning. And then they just fuck off for the rest of the week as far as teaching is concerned. They do make one Zoom social call once a week. No education happening in those, though, it's just a wellness check of sorts, I think.what dreams said:
I'm in a very, very small district surrounded by very, very large districts. We were told to do absolutely nothing for several week before the leaders came up with a unified plan. The most consistently viable plan from what I can tell in all my reading is what we are doing -- pre-recorded lessons, one activity following up on the lesson, feedback, office hours once a week. Zoom has worked to modify its security features to assist schools with that.F Me In The Brain said:
I wondered how many teachers put up work assignments once a week vs taught classes online. Seems different things happening even in the same schools.what dreams said:
Yes, I am still getting paid. At the same time I feel grateful, I feel terribly guilty about it, knowing how much others are suffering who've lost their jobs. I am technically "working" until the end of May, which is when school was out for me in a normal year. By "working" -- I mean creating and posting weekly assignments that only 1/4 of my students are completing, answering a handful of emails a day, meeting once a week with my department. Dreaming big about next year when we go back. My district has been very reasonable about work-at-home structures and requirements, so compared to what a normal workday was like in my trauma flooded school pre-Covid, this is really not hard for me. I know teachers in other districts are being slammed and really not coping well. My main stressor right now is I can't stop imagining the horror shows that must be occurring in many of my students' homes while they are stuck there. My instructional coach told me today that they've already had several CPS reports going in by teachers who have been on Zoom calls with students and had to report things they saw in the background. My first Zoom "office hour" is Friday, and I have mixed feelings about it.mcgruff10 said:
You aren’t getting paid for May and June?what dreams said:
I'm a teacher. I get laid off two months every year anyway, so I'm used it. This year it's four. No biggie.Meltdown99 said:How long are some of you willing to be locked down for? As long as it takes?
The larger districts around me tried to go big with synchronous distance learning and it's been a complete disaster for them. One of them I previously worked for is a so-called premier leader of the nation- haha, bells and whistles I can attest to. Their Superintendent for IT just lost her job yesterday, it's been that bad. The ones who are successfully transitioning to true distance learning contracted out with companies like K-12 who have been doing it for decades. Yes, schools have been using tech in classrooms for a while in "blended learning" models. But no school system in this nation has the capacity to do what corporations like K-12 do. Nobody was ready for a situation like this. I guess we will moving forward :-).
And we're supposed to be in a good district. It's why we chose this shitty nowhere town over other towns that actually have cultural institutions and other such things that make life worth living.
I've basically just told my kids that the school year is over and to do whatever the fuck they want. I'm sure they'll learn more from doing just that than they will by looking at IXL or Epic or whatever other bullshit websites these people try to come up with and send to us to feel as though they're worth a fuck. I've been on a mission to get the superintendent fired since well before the pandemic crisis hit. She's garbage.
As parents who did not study education, we're doing our part by trying to show them how school subjects apply to things we do, observe or sometimes don't even think about in our daily lives (e.g., cooking, gardening, playing music, Wiffle ball, four square, etc.). Besides, I was teaching math all wrong; they don't solve math problems in the same way we did when we were in school.
Please be patient with your kids' teachers right now. I am blessed to be a single woman at home with a mom who sits in her recliner all day. All I've got to do is make sure she eats and takes her medicine, so I have time to reach out to my students. My problem is their parents don't speak English, so when I call and they hear my English voice, they hang up on me. No lie. My colleagues have a variety of family situations. Most of them are trying to home-school their own young children whose teachers are posting work while also doing their own jobs. In other words, your kids' teachers are doing exactly the same thing you're trying to manage yourself: work at home and educate their own kids while trying to stay healthy and find toilet paper.
She has had a spate of terrible decision making on her part in the 5 years that I've lived here. These were her decisions alone; they did not come from anywhere higher in the chain. The school board loves her because she keeps the budget down by not paying teachers more and blocking unions. They don't care that she hired a few sexual predators (including the high school principal) and made racist comments during her tenure. As long as the budget looks good, she's got a job.
I had a member of the school board offer to Zoom with me to address my concerns, and I shot her an email back saying that I don't know what good that would do other than for her to cross addressing my concerns off her list, which she would most certainly fail to do if the superintendent was still considered exemplary and kept her position after our chat. I am going to take it higher when it seems more prudent to do so. Now is not the time.
As for teaching to the test, this is an area in which I feel as though educators themselves, especially those who actually liked working for a living (read: coming up with their own curricula and teaching students that curricula at a pace that develops organically throughout the school year), have a prime opportunity to push back. They can no longer teach to the bullshit test right now. And I think that this is their chance to fight it again as an unnecessary strain on students, educators, and the system at large. You are not powerless pawns. When my daughter was coming apart last year to study for this test, I told her that she can answer C for every question and she would be totally fine. It's not a measurement of her; it's a measurement of the system. And the system is fucked! I did tell her that if she liked her teacher, she she try to do well, though. Otherwise, tank it on purpose.I SAW PEARL JAM0 -
Wasn't it the republican that were screaming about "death panels"? Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions on guessing which side of the aisle they sit on though?Kat said:There are some real monsters out there. :(0 -
People dying NOW..23scidoo said:Spiritual_Chaos said:
" In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says."23scidoo said:Spiritual_Chaos said:23scidoo said:Spiritual_Chaos said:
Former state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke again praises the Swedish Corona line.In an interview with German Bild, he says that "the difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now."Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and current WHO adviser, participated in a large interview this weekend with British UnHerd.He highlighted the Swedish path as more science-based, and that Britain did the same - before Prime Minister Boris Johnson made "a 180-degree turn".Now the former state epidemiologist is being interviewed by the German tabloid Bild. He says there is no scientific evidence that "lockdowns" have an actual effect.- People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.- The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
Giesecke says that there have been exaggerated forecasts of death rates and places of care, and that most EU countries have adequate healthcare capacity.- Our healthcare system has not collapsed and will not collapse, says Giesecke.Instead, the former state epidemiologist believes that death rates between different countries can only be compared in a couple of years, and that deaths will increase in countries that have had severe restrictions and in different ways open up.- The only difference with Sweden is that the deaths in these countries will occur later, after they have eased their measures.In the interview with British UnHerd, Giesecke resembled the corona eruption with a tsunami that swept across Europe, and that countries will need to test different paths when it comes time to ease restrictions. If an eased action leads to more deaths, it is withdrawn. Then one must test another route until restrictions can be lifted without death. In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says.- People are not stupid, Johan Giesecke tells the magazine.- The difference is that Germany is destroying its economy right now.
money over humans??
First, Giesecke is not a spokesperson for the swedish Public Health Agency.
Second, "destroying economy" from a public health perspective is not about money, it's about humans.
The holistic approach to public health.
Notice the last part: " In the end, all European countries will be affected about the same, Giesecke says." - if that is the perception, then wrecking the economy and all that comes with that could be a measure to not take.
that is tottaly wrong..do you think at the end of this for example, Italy will be at the same level with my country??..
i'm not working for 40 days and i know very well the economy impact..
No I do not.
Okey, 40 days. Add a few years, and then lets see where different Europeans countries stand in relations to how they combated the virus.
Sounds to me like you are not taking in what Giesecke is saying."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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