The coronavirus

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F Me In The Brain

cutz said:

https://youtu.be/GLcNStHTDjM

Wow.  I won't even comment on his stance (which is not a bad one) but his energy....wow.  o kept waiting for the signs of a stroke but he made it through.

bbiggs

F Me In The Brain said:

cutz said:

https://youtu.be/GLcNStHTDjM

Wow.  I won't even comment on his stance (which is not a bad one) but his energy....wow.  o kept waiting for the signs of a stroke but he made it through.

I thought his never ending spit shower at the camera was the most impressive part. 

hedonist

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/Shine_McShine/status/1253048714408660992?s=20

Helpful! And an absolute pleasure to watch. 

Halifax2TheMax

That mayor of Vegas is whack, yo!

dignin

Halifax2TheMax said:

That mayor of Vegas is whack, yo!

https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/1253041723510587394?s=12

She doesn't sound crazy at all.

pjl44

tbergs said:

pjl44 said:

bbiggs said:

pjl44 said:

bbiggs said:

A study suggesting Sean Hannity’s shows helped to spread Covid-19.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2020/4/22/21229360/coronavirus-covid-19-fox-news-sean-hannity-misinformation-death

Alternate headline: 

Watching Tucker Carlson saved lives

Yes.  Forgive me.  I'm not trying to put a biased spin on anything.  If you've followed my comments over time, you'll know I'm much more in the middle than most.  I don't have a problem with Tucker Carlson for the most part.  My post was about the study that focused on Hannity's show.  There are a lot of media outlets/ reporting that could have saved lives, like the suggestion that Tucker Carlson's did.  Not as many that were as reckless (in my opinion) as Hannity's with downplaying the severity of the disease.

For sure, man. I think we've agreed on a bunch of stuff previously. I just think Vox framed that in a very misleading way to get a predictable response. I'm not sure how useful a study is that compares Hannity and Tucker. It's set up to essentially produce the same headline, regardless of which way the data fell.

I stopped reading most of what Vox put out a few years back because it was usually skewed. Still sometimes find it interesting, but in the same way I find Fox interesting.

Too true. Jane Coaston writes some great stuff for Vox and hopefully too many people don't miss it because they're so wonky.

pjl44

JimmyV said:

JimmyV said:

We are officially closed down through 5/4, but the schools - which usually get out the third or fourth week of June - have been closed through the end of the school year.

So I missed this part yesterday but apparently daycares are closed until 6/29. Makes sense given the school closures but I don't see how many parents will be able to return to work full-time without some kind of childcare.

For what it's worth, daycares are not thrilled about this and are working on collectively lobbying Baker for a plan to dial that date back. It struck me as kinda crazy...there are different considerations vs. schools. We'll see what happens. 

pjl44

Ledbetterman10 said:

pjl44 said:

bbiggs said:

pjl44 said:

bbiggs said:

A study suggesting Sean Hannity’s shows helped to spread Covid-19.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.vox.com/platform/amp/policy-and-politics/2020/4/22/21229360/coronavirus-covid-19-fox-news-sean-hannity-misinformation-death

Alternate headline: 

Watching Tucker Carlson saved lives

Yes.  Forgive me.  I'm not trying to put a biased spin on anything.  If you've followed my comments over time, you'll know I'm much more in the middle than most.  I don't have a problem with Tucker Carlson for the most part.  My post was about the study that focused on Hannity's show.  There are a lot of media outlets/ reporting that could have saved lives, like the suggestion that Tucker Carlson's did.  Not as many that were as reckless (in my opinion) as Hannity's with downplaying the severity of the disease.

For sure, man. I think we've agreed on a bunch of stuff previously. I just think Vox framed that in a very misleading way to get a predictable response. I'm not sure how useful a study is that compares Hannity and Tucker. It's set up to essentially produce the same headline, regardless of which way the data fell.

Carlson was talking about the dangers of the disease going back to January when countries outside of China first began having infections. His coverage of it has been night-and-day compared to Hannity, who’s just being a Trump cheerleader as always. 

The hyperbole of “Carlson saves lives while Hannity kills” or whatever that study suggested actually isn’t that far off. Maybe Carlson doesn’t deserve a medal for it, because it’s not like other cable news outlets weren’t reporting on the dangers of the virus too (though I do think Carlson was ahead of most of them). But if you’re just a typical Fox News viewer who tuned in for information on the virus in this time of crisis, Carlson gave you news and Hannity fed you bullshit. 

Carlson’s even been critical of Trump during the last month. He won’t come out and name him (gotta keep your job I guess), but he’s lamented the “federal government” and our “leadership” as problems during the pandemic. Last night or the night before, he did actually call out Trump’s most recent executive order as something that won’t help anything. Carlson’s no prize, but at least he’s not hopeless like Hannity. 

Can't disagree with any of that. Tucker's a weird cat. There is some shit where he is dead on, often flying in the face of any Republican orthodoxy (Trumpist or otherwise). Then other times he will have some bonkers/horrific guest or position that it negates everything else. He's like the Rand Paul of cable news.

GlowGirl

bbiggs said:

F Me In The Brain said:

cutz said:

https://youtu.be/GLcNStHTDjM

Wow.  I won't even comment on his stance (which is not a bad one) but his energy....wow.  o kept waiting for the signs of a stroke but he made it through.

I thought his never ending spit shower at the camera was the most impressive part. 

That guy needs a mask ASAP.

Jason P

gimmesometruth27

i covered an elective surgery in columbia, mo today. they are going to start easing restrictions on elective surgeries late next week, but are going to take baby steps. i guess it wasn't technically elective since the bone graft was set to expire next week. I am glad we were able to get it done and hopefully the patient does well.

st louis and southern illinois still have no timeline to resume elective cases that i have heard.

pjl44

Well that is interesting 

https://twitter.com/ABC/status/1253090662817370122?s=19

dankind

Word is a bunch of Massholes are going to protest in front of our governor’s house tomorrow. Not the State House, but his private home. It’s really fine people who do a thing like that. 

Oh, and guess who lives five or six houses away from the governor?

Fuck. A. Duck. 

Oh yeah, and I believe the highest daily death toll (and possibly new cases) in the commonwealth came out today, so great timing, folks. 

Halifax2TheMax

dankind said:

Word is a bunch of Massholes are going to protest in front of our governor’s house tomorrow. Not the State House, but his private home. It’s really fine people who do a thing like that. 

Oh, and guess who lives five or six houses away from the governor?

Fuck. A. Duck. 

Oh yeah, and I believe the highest daily death toll (and possibly new cases) in the commonwealth came out today, so great timing, folks. 

Water ballon launchers can be a beautiful thing. Need three friends though, two to hold and one to spot and call in the range/angle. 

brianlux

dankind said:

brianlux said:

pjl44 said:

brianlux said:

SHZA said:

bbiggs said:

Here's what I don't understand about the U.S.'s approach.  Just about every state bought in to the stay at home orders.  This lasted 4-5 weeks or so and many states are now starting to get antsy and want to open back up.  In the meantime, the virus cases and deaths continue to rise, so we haven't seen the peak.  What was the point in locking down to begin with if you weren't going to at least ride it out until after the peak?  Seems pretty pointless to me.  It's the wild west around here with no sense of direction.  Buckle up.

I believe it's inaccurate to say the US hasn't hit a peak -- the daily death toll has declined since April 15. But I agree that easing up too soon would surely cause a fresh spike.  

My understanding is the peak has/ will occur at different times in different places.  For example, last I heard, California will not peak until sometime in May, possibly even late May.  Governor Newsom will be on in 1/2 hour and will probably update that.

And what constitutes "peak" may be treacherously deceiving.  A second wave could eclipse the first one.  It blows my mind when I hear people think we are "almost out of the woods".  I sure wish it were so, but we're not.  We're not even all the way into the woods yet.

I think it's a slow walk out of the woods and we're close to taking the first few steps. For instance, I think it won't be too long before you can (with precautions) visit in small groups with family/friends or get a haircut. On the other hand I think we're a ways away from filling an arena for a concert or basketball game. Although I'd LOVE to be wrong on the latter.

Oh my- getting out and being with people again will be soooooooo good!

Speak for yourself, man!

This introvert is loving life right now!

bbiggs said:

dankind said:

brianlux said:

pjl44 said:

brianlux said:

SHZA said:

bbiggs said:

Here's what I don't understand about the U.S.'s approach.  Just about every state bought in to the stay at home orders.  This lasted 4-5 weeks or so and many states are now starting to get antsy and want to open back up.  In the meantime, the virus cases and deaths continue to rise, so we haven't seen the peak.  What was the point in locking down to begin with if you weren't going to at least ride it out until after the peak?  Seems pretty pointless to me.  It's the wild west around here with no sense of direction.  Buckle up.

I believe it's inaccurate to say the US hasn't hit a peak -- the daily death toll has declined since April 15. But I agree that easing up too soon would surely cause a fresh spike.  

My understanding is the peak has/ will occur at different times in different places.  For example, last I heard, California will not peak until sometime in May, possibly even late May.  Governor Newsom will be on in 1/2 hour and will probably update that.

And what constitutes "peak" may be treacherously deceiving.  A second wave could eclipse the first one.  It blows my mind when I hear people think we are "almost out of the woods".  I sure wish it were so, but we're not.  We're not even all the way into the woods yet.

I think it's a slow walk out of the woods and we're close to taking the first few steps. For instance, I think it won't be too long before you can (with precautions) visit in small groups with family/friends or get a haircut. On the other hand I think we're a ways away from filling an arena for a concert or basketball game. Although I'd LOVE to be wrong on the latter.

Oh my- getting out and being with people again will be soooooooo good!

Speak for yourself, man!

This introvert is loving life right now!

I've jokingly said that I've been practicing social-distancing my entire life.   

LOL both. I get it!  I'm mainly an introvert myself but there are times when I emerge from my shell and really dig being around people.  Then I'm satiated with peopleness and crawl back into my hole!   

hedonist

Halifax2TheMax said:

dankind said:

Word is a bunch of Massholes are going to protest in front of our governor’s house tomorrow. Not the State House, but his private home. It’s really fine people who do a thing like that. 

Oh, and guess who lives five or six houses away from the governor?

Fuck. A. Duck. 

Oh yeah, and I believe the highest daily death toll (and possibly new cases) in the commonwealth came out today, so great timing, folks. 

Water ballon launchers can be a beautiful thing. Need three friends though, two to hold and one to spot and call in the range/angle. 

And a fourth for bail. 

Introvert here too. It’s working for my guy and me. 

Halifax2TheMax

hedonist said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

dankind said:

Word is a bunch of Massholes are going to protest in front of our governor’s house tomorrow. Not the State House, but his private home. It’s really fine people who do a thing like that. 

Oh, and guess who lives five or six houses away from the governor?

Fuck. A. Duck. 

Oh yeah, and I believe the highest daily death toll (and possibly new cases) in the commonwealth came out today, so great timing, folks. 

Water ballon launchers can be a beautiful thing. Need three friends though, two to hold and one to spot and call in the range/angle. 

And a fourth for bail. 

Introvert here too. It’s working for my guy and me. 

From the proper distance, you can get 5 or 6 off and they’d not have a clue. Unless you filmed it and posted it on social media. Bail can be arranged.

what dreams

mcgruff10 said:

what dreams said:

Meltdown99 said:

How long are some of you willing to be locked down for? As long as it takes? 

I'm a teacher. I get laid off two months every year anyway, so I'm used it. This year it's four. No biggie.

You aren’t getting paid for May and June?

Yes, I am still getting paid. At the same time I feel grateful, I feel terribly guilty about it, knowing how much others are suffering who've lost their jobs. I am technically "working" until the end of May, which is when school was out for me in a normal year. By "working" -- I mean creating and posting weekly assignments that only 1/4 of my students are completing, answering a handful of emails a day, meeting once a week with my department. Dreaming big about next year when we go back. My district has been very reasonable about work-at-home structures and requirements, so compared to what a normal workday was like in my trauma flooded school pre-Covid, this is really not hard for me. I know teachers in other districts are being slammed and really not coping well. My main stressor right now is I can't stop imagining the horror shows that must be occurring in many of my students' homes while they are stuck there. My instructional coach told me today that they've already had several CPS reports going in by teachers who have been on Zoom calls with students and had to report things they saw in the background. My first Zoom "office hour" is Friday, and I have mixed feelings about it.

F Me In The Brain

what dreams said:

mcgruff10 said:

what dreams said:

Meltdown99 said:

How long are some of you willing to be locked down for? As long as it takes? 

I'm a teacher. I get laid off two months every year anyway, so I'm used it. This year it's four. No biggie.

You aren’t getting paid for May and June?

Yes, I am still getting paid. At the same time I feel grateful, I feel terribly guilty about it, knowing how much others are suffering who've lost their jobs. I am technically "working" until the end of May, which is when school was out for me in a normal year. By "working" -- I mean creating and posting weekly assignments that only 1/4 of my students are completing, answering a handful of emails a day, meeting once a week with my department. Dreaming big about next year when we go back. My district has been very reasonable about work-at-home structures and requirements, so compared to what a normal workday was like in my trauma flooded school pre-Covid, this is really not hard for me. I know teachers in other districts are being slammed and really not coping well. My main stressor right now is I can't stop imagining the horror shows that must be occurring in many of my students' homes while they are stuck there. My instructional coach told me today that they've already had several CPS reports going in by teachers who have been on Zoom calls with students and had to report things they saw in the background. My first Zoom "office hour" is Friday, and I have mixed feelings about it.

I wondered how many teachers put up work assignments once a week vs taught classes online.   Seems different things happening even in the same schools.