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  • Mike D88
    Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 767
    edited April 2020
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Kat said:
    There are some real monsters out there. :(



    Wasn't it the republican that were screaming about "death panels"?  Maybe I'm jumping to conclusions on guessing which side of the aisle they sit on though?
    It was. Now they're literally advocating for conditions to continue the spread of a disease that's highly discriminatory against the elderly.
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  • dankind
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    edited April 2020
    So after the weak protest was dispersed because no one could find a place to park, all that was left was this angry dude who sped around the neighborhood, honking his horn and otherwise behaving like a douchelord. 

    (Photo courtesy of a neighbor)

    :lol:

    My town and the city that borders us have blocked street parking for weeks now to keep ignoramuses from overcrowding the beaches.
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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,649
    edited April 2020
    what dreams said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
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    pjl44 said:
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    dignin said:
    pjl44 said:
    Vox was still pushing this horseshit last night. They doubled down and made the tweet even worse than the headline.


    The injustice, I weep for Hannity.
    It's not even about Hannity. You read the headline then read the story and it's journalism that we should be weeping for. 
    If you complain here about journalism nowadays, then you’re automatically a trump supporter. There are news outlets just as bad as Fox News, but for the other side. It’s just not brought up here. 
    Totally. Did you see the CNN video of Chris Cuomo emerging from quarantine? Even though he had been out in the Hamptons (while infectious) and got into an argument with a cyclist? It's hard to avoid nihilism at this point. 
    Embarrassing. I was embarrassed for him. Nobody talks about stuff like that though. If trump made that video, forget it. That’s a big problem. People arent stupid, even though certain posters here make it seem like anyone who isn’t a Biden supporter is dumb. People notice things like that , and it only helps Trump. This whole attitude is counterproductive towards getting him out of office. 
    This Gallup poll tells you all you need to know about the state of our relationship with the media. We all understand that Fox is full of shit. But, like you said, try to explain that the same applies to MSNBC, CNN, etc. and you'll get well-akshually'd into oblivion. There's a reason the "fake news" thing sticks, unfortunately.


    Last night I watched Anderson Cooper call the Mayor of Las Vegas an "idiot." Flat out just said, you are an idiot. 

    The mayor was making the argument that it's up to private businesses to put social distancing practices in place if they wish to open, not her job as mayor. At this point I do tend to feel that "letting the market decide" is a viable option, so I didn't disagree with the mayor, even though she seemed a bit like a nut in other ways. I tend to believe that businesses who choose to open probably won't see much business and eat the cost of opening, because "the market" -- that would be US, people -- don't want to go anywhere.

    BUT, to have gotten to a point where "news anchors", even someone like Anderson Cooper whom I have always admired, to call a mayor an idiot as part of the interview -- it just isn't journalism anymore. It's all commentary, celebrity, ratings, sensationalism, all the time, on every channel. Our free press is in a crisis and I worry about the fate of our nation without responsible journalism.
    You need to put his comment in the context of what he was asking and showing her. He was using the dining room map of a Chinese study that illustrated how one infected person at a table infected diners at nearby tables and the study saying the virus was carried by the air current of the dining room's AC system. After he asked if she would be going from casino to casino to ensure proper social distancing per CDC and Team Trump Treason's recommendations. Her reply? "I don't gamble," and "Anderson, we're not in China." 

    So yea, she's a fucking idiot and if I was employed by one of those casinos, I wouldn't go back to work and probably be denied unemployment for doing so and if I were a gambler, I'd stay home and gamble online. She's a fucking idiot.
    Her being a fucking idiot is for us to decide. It's not Anderson Cooper's job to decide for us. His job is to present the facts -- the diagram of the  Chinese dining table  -- and to ask her to comment on it. If he doesn't agree with her answer, he needs to keep that to himself, or risk being forever labeled a biased reporter. Like I said, she showed herself to be a nut case in some respects. Give the viewers credit for understanding that. Nobody in the media even pretends to be objective anymore, and that's a major problem.

    Just some empathy, not an endorsement -- but you have a mayor looking at the possibility of her town becoming a 21st century ghost town because of its reliance on a single industry. Nutso or not in her response to Cooper's questions, I feel for her and the people in Las Vegas. At this point, I am on the "let the markets decide" side of the fence, for a variety of reasons, some of which are not appropriate to say out loud.
    Did he call her an "idiot," or what she was claiming as "idiocy?" If I recall, he didn't call her an "idiot," but rather what she was trying to claim, "let Las Vegas be a control group," as idiocy. Particularly after he tried to reason with her.

    Like Team trump Treason, these "idiots," "morons," "bullshit artists," need to be called out on their stupidity because the problem is, many viewers are too stupid to do so themselves.

    Are you okay with opening up Las Vegas to the large Asian cliental that previously flocked from China, Singapore, Malaysia and other parts of Asia to gamble in Las Vegas? Direct flights from Beijing? I mean, if we're going to open up America "again," lets open her up, right?
    HTM:  "Many viewers are too stupid to do so themselves."
    You're a real piece of work. You're basically arguing that we need the media to tell us what to think.

    I hate to break it to ya, but yes, we are going top open up soon. We have no fucking choice. Whether it's tomorrow, two weeks, August -- whatever. THE MARKET WILL DECIDE. Every single state in America could go full open tomorrow, and I guarantee you, nobody -- or very few people  -- will go anywhere. Businesses that open too early without safety measures in place will fail anyway. Smart business people will know that and will wait to open when they know they can protect their workers and customers. To do the opposite will be financial ruin for them, those that aren't ruined already. This idea that there is this magical date in the near future when we will all be safe from this disease is lunacy. Do you suppose we wait two fucking years for a vaccine, none of which are 100% effective, before we open up again?

    Darwin: "It's not the strongest of the species that survive, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change."  I personally will support the businesses who adapt to change. 
    First, thank you for teaching. You're not compensated well enough for what you have to try and accomplish.

    I watched Anderson Cooper last night and I have an issue with how you've framed this particular issue on reporting. I didn't hear him call her an "idiot," but rather what she was claiming as "idiocy," in light of the fact based evidence he was presenting to her. "Arguing that we need media to tell us what to think?" Hardly. Anderson was calling her out. You can still choose for yourself whether she's an "idiot," or what she was espousing was "idiocy." There's no finality to the debate. In how Anderson presented the evidence, and her claims of denial, yes, she's an idiot. And Anderson didn't tell me to think that. I witnessed it. Do you think the mayor's argument was valid, fact based? Or do you think we should be like Sweden? "Smart business people," are infectious disease experts, too? I didn't realize that was something they taught in business school, or the school of hard knocks, Pandemic Response Business Continuity 101?

    "Let the market decide." Well, the fucking advocates for re-opening the economy and letting America go back to work, should practice what they preach and do what they advocate for. Like Randy Paul screeching about "going back to normal" but advocating for remote voting for himself. Or the dipshit mayor of Las Vegas who won't visit casinos because, "she doesn't gamble."  So, all those employers who tell their employees to return to work, and either A) don't have anything to do because there's no customers or B) get sick and cant work, what about them? Can they decide to stay home and collect unemployment?

    Is Las Vegas open to everyone or just Americans? Seeing how the mayor wants her citizens to be a "control group?"

    Hate to break it to you but get ready for the second wave of infections and deaths and see what that does for "business."

    (Edit: I didn't realize a B ) gets you a cool dude emoticon)
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  • mfc2006
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    Kat said:
    There are some real monsters out there. :(



    Unreal. Every single day I see something that really gets to me.....ugh.

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  • Mike D88
    Mike D88 Tampa Posts: 767
    edited April 2020
    I missed this yesterday, because time is immaterial now:


    The head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), which is overseeing vaccine development, was sacked because he wouldn't blindly endorse the use of hydroxychloroquine, a drug that now appears to do more harm than good when used to treat COVID-19.
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  • josevolution
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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/04/23/dhs-increase-in-coronavirus-inspired-violence-205221
    How long before someone gets killed ..
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
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    Mike D88 said:
    I missed this yesterday, because time is immaterial now:


    The head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), which is overseeing vaccine development, was sacked because he wouldn't blindly endorse the use of hydroxychloroquine, a drug that now appears to do more harm than good when used to treat COVID-19.
    So, you are saying he might have gotten a bit angry because the govt is trying to kill their people? 

    Lerxst1992 you need to check this out
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • pjl44
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    Mike D88 said:
    I missed this yesterday, because time is immaterial now:


    The head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), which is overseeing vaccine development, was sacked because he wouldn't blindly endorse the use of hydroxychloroquine, a drug that now appears to do more harm than good when used to treat COVID-19.
    And in the interim a lot more details to the contrary have come out.

    https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/22/hhs-ousts-vaccine-expert-as-covid-19-threat-grows-201642?__twitter_impression=true


  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    pjl44 said:
    Mike D88 said:
    I missed this yesterday, because time is immaterial now:


    The head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), which is overseeing vaccine development, was sacked because he wouldn't blindly endorse the use of hydroxychloroquine, a drug that now appears to do more harm than good when used to treat COVID-19.
    And in the interim a lot more details to the contrary have come out.

    https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/22/hhs-ousts-vaccine-expert-as-covid-19-threat-grows-201642?__twitter_impression=true


    Both can be true. He has said that he doesn’t support use as a treatment without evidence and was pushed to approve use anyway. He has also reported that he agreed to having trials performed, which would require presence of the drug. 
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  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases.  This thing is 99.999% harmless.  Lets fucking get shit open.  This is the dumbest shit ever.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,571
    edited April 2020
    jimjam1982 said:
     This is the dumbest shit ever.
    Or your post is.


    AND IM FROM CORONA-RECKLESS SWEDEN


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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,144
    edited April 2020
    jimjam1982 said:
    27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases.  This thing is 99.999% harmless.  Lets fucking get shit open.  This is the dumbest shit ever.
    15,740 dead in New York State.   So fucking dumb.  
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  • pjl44
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    oftenreading said:
    pjl44 said:
    Mike D88 said:
    I missed this yesterday, because time is immaterial now:


    The head of the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority (BARDA), which is overseeing vaccine development, was sacked because he wouldn't blindly endorse the use of hydroxychloroquine, a drug that now appears to do more harm than good when used to treat COVID-19.
    And in the interim a lot more details to the contrary have come out.

    https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2020/04/22/hhs-ousts-vaccine-expert-as-covid-19-threat-grows-201642?__twitter_impression=true


    Both can be true. He has said that he doesn’t support use as a treatment without evidence and was pushed to approve use anyway. He has also reported that he agreed to having trials performed, which would require presence of the drug. 
    The point of the Politico piece is that it's much more complex than the Times presents it, which is basically Do This - No - You're Fired
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases.  This thing is 99.999% harmless.  Lets fucking get shit open.  This is the dumbest shit ever.
    15,740 dead in New York State.   So fucking dumb.  
    The downfall of western civilization vs. 50,000 deaths.  Seems legit.  GO on though.  Talk about how important everyone is in the scheme of human history. 
  • Halifax2TheMax
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    I just re-watched the complete interview Anderson Cooper had with that idiot Las Vegas Mayor. Guess what? He never called her an idiot. He called a statement that she made, "ignorant." Is it possible CNN edited the interview they posted on their website? Sure, I guess. I found it on my phone and can't find it on CNN's page. If you can find it, watch it. Then decide for yourself if the mayor of Las Vegas is an idiot. Don't think what Anderson Cooper wants you to.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/23/politics/carolyn-goodman-anderson-cooper-las-vegas/index.html
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  • mcgruff10
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    jimjam1982 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases.  This thing is 99.999% harmless.  Lets fucking get shit open.  This is the dumbest shit ever.
    15,740 dead in New York State.   So fucking dumb.  
    The downfall of western civilization vs. 50,000 deaths.  Seems legit.  GO on though.  Talk about how important everyone is in the scheme of human history. 
    Did you hold up your “sacrifice the weak” sign today?  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases.  This thing is 99.999% harmless.  Lets fucking get shit open.  This is the dumbest shit ever.
    15,740 dead in New York State.   So fucking dumb.  
    The downfall of western civilization vs. 50,000 deaths.  Seems legit.  GO on though.  Talk about how important everyone is in the scheme of human history. 
    Did you hold up your “sacrifice the weak” sign today?  
    Nope but there is a point where sacrifices will need to be made.  Maybe I will die, I am okay with that if I die having fun doing things I want to do.  We all gotta go someday.  I won't go quietly at home alone. Sorry. 
  • pjl44
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    jimjam1982 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases.  This thing is 99.999% harmless.  Lets fucking get shit open.  This is the dumbest shit ever.
    15,740 dead in New York State.   So fucking dumb.  
    The downfall of western civilization vs. 50,000 deaths.  Seems legit.  GO on though.  Talk about how important everyone is in the scheme of human history. 
    Did you hold up your “sacrifice the weak” sign today?  
    Nope but there is a point where sacrifices will need to be made.  Maybe I will die, I am okay with that if I die having fun doing things I want to do.  We all gotta go someday.  I won't go quietly at home alone. Sorry. 
    Do you live near Georgia? You could lift and get a mustache wax tomorrow. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,571
    edited April 2020
    jimjam1982 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases.  This thing is 99.999% harmless.  Lets fucking get shit open.  This is the dumbest shit ever.
    15,740 dead in New York State.   So fucking dumb.  
    The downfall of western civilization vs. 50,000 deaths.  Seems legit.  GO on though.  Talk about how important everyone is in the scheme of human history. 
    Did you hold up your “sacrifice the weak” sign today?  
    Nope but there is a point where sacrifices will need to be made.  Maybe I will die, I am okay with that if I die having fun doing things I want to do.  We all gotta go someday.  I won't go quietly at home alone. Sorry. 

    Do you know why there are lockdowns, and what that will happen to healthcare if you "fucking get shit open"?
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,144
    jimjam1982 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    27% herd immunity in NY with 2.7million positive tests for antibodies. Extrapolated globally thats over 2 billion Rona cases.  This thing is 99.999% harmless.  Lets fucking get shit open.  This is the dumbest shit ever.
    15,740 dead in New York State.   So fucking dumb.  
    The downfall of western civilization vs. 50,000 deaths.  Seems legit.  GO on though.  Talk about how important everyone is in the scheme of human history. 
    Did you hold up your “sacrifice the weak” sign today?  
    Nope but there is a point where sacrifices will need to be made.  Maybe I will die, I am okay with that if I die having fun doing things I want to do.  We all gotta go someday.  I won't go quietly at home alone. Sorry. 
    So what do you miss doing? What could be so important that you would risk your life for? 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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