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  • kce8kce8 Posts: 1,636
    I mean seriously, for what have we been sitting at home alone for weeks when we risk screwing it up in just a few days ???
    No need to wait for another wave in the fall, we will get it as soon as possible with these m..f .. underexposed selfish idiots. 

    I have to stop reading the news for today, it only will ruin my free day. :(
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,412
    I went to Kroger yesterday around 1pm and was shocked at how many people were not wearing masks.  I would put it at 40% without masks.  We are so fucked.
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  • SmellymanSmellyman Posts: 4,524
    When you have tremendous leadership.

    “With the masks, it’s going to be really a voluntary thing. You can do it, you don’t have to do it. I’m choosing not to do it, but some people may want to do it and that’s OK,” Trump said.

  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,211
    I know it’s HuffPost but read it anyway and in particular, Team Trump Treason’s tweets. Just gotta shake my head.

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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,946
    I went to Kroger yesterday around 1pm and was shocked at how many people were not wearing masks.  I would put it at 40% without masks.  We are so fucked.
    I think a lot of these people are using this as an opportunity to make a statement and show their position.  The people in the "open everything up now" camp won't wear masks to prove their point.  Luckily, in IL, it's required to wear one in stores (I see some smaller stores not enforcing it).  There were people all over Chicagoland protesting this weekend.  The town I live in had roughly a couple hundred people protesting to end the stay at home order. 

  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,589
    kce8 said:
    Aside from the virus, the incidents in Germany are now really worrying.

    Many people are already behaving as if nothing has happened.
    The craziest conspiracy theories are on the way and are being systematically distributed to set people to fight. The demonstrations are piling up and apparently most of the reasons are weak and people are just rehearsing the uprising.
    One group is now called "Resistance".

    WTF is wrong with people??? ... as if we weren't already having enough problems. And of course the number of infections increases again. People are just so selfish - and stupid! 

    Oh, Germany!  :frowning:  You have done so well-- don't blow it now.  This really worries me for my German friends.

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  • kce8kce8 Posts: 1,636
    Exactly Brian, this bad behaviour and upcoming protests against all and everything is really scaring me more right now than that virus. 
  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,312
    I know it’s HuffPost but read it anyway and in particular, Team Trump Treason’s tweets. Just gotta shake my head.

    https://apple.news/AArgj9lCNRgO05vef_esltQ
    I read it earlier, crazy.  And HuffPo is not terrible when it's reporting.  It was the outrageous campaigning it was doing for certain candidates.  
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,589
    kce8 said:
    Exactly Brian, this bad behaviour and upcoming protests against all and everything is really scaring me more right now than that virus. 

    It truly is sad, kce, when it feels like people are more scary and dangerous than a killer virus.  It's almost as though this huge portion of the human race is hell bent on it's own destruction.  It boggles the mind.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,491
    there was a sparsely-attended rally at the manitoba legislature over the weekend, maga types wearing maga hats with "canada" written over top "america". signs of fake news and garbage like that. wanting us to reopen. seriously, we are in phase 1 of reopening, phase 2 is june 1st if everything goes smoothly. and it includes probably larger gatherings being allowed, restaurants being allowed to open to 50 percent capacity. 

    fuck these losers. going to keep us at phase 1 or all the way back to lockdown if they don't stop this shit. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,589
    there was a sparsely-attended rally at the manitoba legislature over the weekend, maga types wearing maga hats with "canada" written over top "america". signs of fake news and garbage like that. wanting us to reopen. seriously, we are in phase 1 of reopening, phase 2 is june 1st if everything goes smoothly. and it includes probably larger gatherings being allowed, restaurants being allowed to open to 50 percent capacity. 

    fuck these losers. going to keep us at phase 1 or all the way back to lockdown if they don't stop this shit. 

    Its so damn frustrating what some of these knuckleheads are doing.  Its too bad the virus doesn't just attack stupidity only. 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,491
    i hope people are just venting here when they utter things like "i hope they get the virus", because honestly, i understand the frustration. but i don't honestly hope that anyone gets it. 

    otherwise the phrase "how very christian of you" may never be uttered ironically ever again. 
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,589
    i hope people are just venting here when they utter things like "i hope they get the virus", because honestly, i understand the frustration. but i don't honestly hope that anyone gets it. 

    otherwise the phrase "how very christian of you" may never be uttered ironically ever again. 

    I wouldn't wish this virus on anyone because if it gets one person, it can get others.  I just wish those who are making the situation worse would stop doing that or be whisked off by aliens or something. 
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  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 16,316
    i hope people are just venting here when they utter things like "i hope they get the virus", because honestly, i understand the frustration. but i don't honestly hope that anyone gets it. 

    otherwise the phrase "how very christian of you" may never be uttered ironically ever again. 
    I hear ya...but just think...if trump gets it maybe he changes his tune and maybe lives are saved because of it
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,946
    I did some driving around on Saturday and was kind of surprised at what I was observing.  A decent percentage of drivers were in their cars with masks on.  Some were the only passengers in the vehicle.  This was on main roads, so it isn't like they just pulled out of a Home Depot parking lot and left it on for a minute.  It was a sunny, mid-60's day, so driving around with windows down or open was common, so maybe these people were being super cautious because of this?  I don't know.  I can't find a valid reason for this many people to be driving in their vehicles with masks on (and sometimes windows all the way up).  Weird times we are living in.
  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,589
    bbiggs said:
    I did some driving around on Saturday and was kind of surprised at what I was observing.  A decent percentage of drivers were in their cars with masks on.  Some were the only passengers in the vehicle.  This was on main roads, so it isn't like they just pulled out of a Home Depot parking lot and left it on for a minute.  It was a sunny, mid-60's day, so driving around with windows down or open was common, so maybe these people were being super cautious because of this?  I don't know.  I can't find a valid reason for this many people to be driving in their vehicles with masks on (and sometimes windows all the way up).  Weird times we are living in.

    I've noticed the same thing.  I'm super cautious about going out and do so minimally, but I don't see any reason to drive with a mask on.  That seems beyond cautious to me.  Wearing a mask is uncomfortable as it is- I see no reason to do so when it isn't necessary.
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  • KatKat Posts: 4,831
    Reminder:  Just as it's never ok here to wish death on anyone, no matter how much you dislike them or their politics or whatever, it's not ok to wish illness or tragedy or anything negative like that on people, ever. Don't do it. It's not within the Posting Guidelines and doesn't belong here, thank you.

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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,135
    edited May 2020
    https://twitter.com/realdonaldtrump/status/522394479429689344?s=21
    how many families or 1st responders has he offered his condolences or any kind words ,some one needs to ask him..

    Post edited by josevolution on
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 Posts: 4,970
    I neither hope that anyone gets the virus nor laugh at those that do.  That said, when someone rails against wearing masks, distancing, etc. and gets it, it's important to share...even knowing that the irony will be too much for some to be able to take the high road.  As it goes through the West Wing, the more people (and more high-profile) that get it, the more important the cautionary tale.  I'm not going to celebrate it, but I am going to share it.
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  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,114
    Alabama wants to use $200 million of coronavirus recovery money to build a new state house. When you read these stories think about the politicians who got vilified for daring to push back on the CARES Act.

    https://www.al.com/news/2020/05/its-not-alabamas-state-house-that-needs-replacing.html?outputType=amp&__twitter_impression=true
  • Gern BlanstenGern Blansten Posts: 19,412
    i hope people are just venting here when they utter things like "i hope they get the virus", because honestly, i understand the frustration. but i don't honestly hope that anyone gets it. 

    otherwise the phrase "how very christian of you" may never be uttered ironically ever again. 
    I hear ya...but just think...if trump gets it maybe he changes his tune and maybe lives are saved because of it
    It is the only way they learn.  Whenever I meet a republican that is for gay rights I know immediately that they have a friend or family member that is gay.  Otherwise they don't understand.
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  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 29,135
    Here’s Pence again acting like a dick 
    https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1259884555969929218?s=21

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  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 30,063
    edited May 2020
    If positive examples fail - then what is left?

    New cases in China and South Korea. Increased spread of infection in Germany which just lifted restrictions. Some disheartening examples of how difficult it can be to shut down and then open up without the corona virus coming back. A second wave now would be demoralizing.


    Wuhan has been seen as a successful example of how China managed to keep the corona virus away. Even though it was done with extremely harsh measures. Therefore, it is extra worrying that a number of new cases were found right there. If several months of the most severe of "lockdown" cannot overcome the virus in one of the countries where citizens are controlled most severely, how then should the Western world succeed?

    /.../

    We see the conflict increase in Germany where there were demonstrations this weekend. We see it in the UK where a pale Boris Johnson is trying to navigate between those who want to open up and those who want to continue the tougher restrictions. We see it in the US where a large part of the population in opinion polls say no to open up but where Donald Trump is still pushing to do so.

    These conflicts will increase and spread across the world as the virus harvests new victims. The longer the crisis continues, the more the patience of citizens will be eroded and replaced by camps that are firmly convinced that they have the right solution.

    To put it mildly, there are few lights at the end of the corona tunnel. So when the few who do exist meet setbacks it feel extra sad. Although a second wave of infection hardly comes as a surprise, it is equally as unwelcome.

    And, what if it is as the former state epidemiologist and WHO adviser Johan Giesecke says that in the end, an equal share of the population will die regardless of the strategy chosen by the countries?

    https://www.aftonbladet.se/nyheter/kolumnister/a/QozWVP/om-positiva-exempel-fallerar--vad-aterstar-da
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,035
    NYT is reporting that fauci has stated that he is going to testify to the senate about the dangers of reopening things too early. trump may have known this so that is why he exploded today and has forbid fauci from testifying to the house.

    at any rate, i am betting trump will fire fauci after tomorrow.
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  • brianluxbrianlux Posts: 41,589
    NYT is reporting that fauci has stated that he is going to testify to the senate about the dangers of reopening things too early. trump may have known this so that is why he exploded today and has forbid fauci from testifying to the house.

    at any rate, i am betting trump will fire fauci after tomorrow.

    I'm surprised Fauci hasn't been canned already.  Most likely the only reason is that Trump knows that doing so would probably result is a lot of bad press for him yet again. 

    I sure hope Fauci gets his day in front of the Senate. 
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  • bbiggsbbiggs Posts: 6,946
    Osterholm again predicting that 60-70% of the entire planet gets infected with Covid-19.  I'd much rather be in the 30-40% camp, but ominous predictions like this really make me wonder if all of this effort is simply prolonging the inevitable. 


  • pjl44pjl44 Posts: 9,114
    bbiggs said:
    Osterholm again predicting that 60-70% of the entire planet gets infected with Covid-19.  I'd much rather be in the 30-40% camp, but ominous predictions like this really make me wonder if all of this effort is simply prolonging the inevitable. 


    Vaccine(s) and/or highly effective treatment(s) are, I think, the biggest wildcards in this whole thing. If we wind up with one or both by the fall, the low end looks like reality and we'll feel pretty great about lockdown efforts. If we're looking back 18 months from now and neither materialized, we're probably looking at the higher end and wondering if we ultimately would have been better off accepting more risk. This is what drives me nuts about people angrily arguing for a particular approach - each one comes with risk and trade-offs. I don't see an objectively correct (or even most likely correct) path.
  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 Posts: 23,035
    brianlux said:
    NYT is reporting that fauci has stated that he is going to testify to the senate about the dangers of reopening things too early. trump may have known this so that is why he exploded today and has forbid fauci from testifying to the house.

    at any rate, i am betting trump will fire fauci after tomorrow.

    I'm surprised Fauci hasn't been canned already.  Most likely the only reason is that Trump knows that doing so would probably result is a lot of bad press for him yet again. 

    I sure hope Fauci gets his day in front of the Senate. 
    trump does not care about bad press. he craves any press.

    fauci is testifying in the senate today.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 38,211
    brianlux said:
    NYT is reporting that fauci has stated that he is going to testify to the senate about the dangers of reopening things too early. trump may have known this so that is why he exploded today and has forbid fauci from testifying to the house.

    at any rate, i am betting trump will fire fauci after tomorrow.

    I'm surprised Fauci hasn't been canned already.  Most likely the only reason is that Trump knows that doing so would probably result is a lot of bad press for him yet again. 

    I sure hope Fauci gets his day in front of the Senate. 
    trump does not care about bad press. he craves any press.

    fauci is testifying in the senate today.
    He’s testifying remotely via video conferencing because his boss is a knucklehead and doesn’t follow his own CDC’s recommendations regarding precautionary measures in the Age of Covid-19.
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 37,649
      A lot of people have been asking me what it's like being on the COVID wards in the hospital, so I figured I'd share what a typical day looks like for me:

    6am - Wake up. Roll off of my pile of money that Big Pharma gave me. Softly weep as it doesn’t put a dent in my medical school loans

    6:30am - Make breakfast, using only foods from the diet that gives me everlasting life by avoiding all fats, sugars, carbs, and proteins. For details buy my book and check out my shop.

    7am - Get to work, load up my syringes with coronavirus before rounds.

    8am - See my patients for the day. Administer the medications that the government tells me to. Covertly rub essential oils on the ones I want to get better.

    9:30am - Call Bill Gates to check how 5G tower construction is going, hoping for more coronavirus soon. He tells me they’re delayed due to repairs on the towers used to spread the Black Plague. Curse the fact that this is the most efficient way to spread infectious diseases.

    10am - One patient tells me he knows “the truth” about coronavirus. I give him a Tdap booster. He becomes autistic in front of my eyes. He’ll never conspire against me again.

    11am - Tend to the secret hospital garden of St. John’s wort and ginkgo leaves that we save for rich patients and donors.

    12:30pm - Pick up my briefcase of money from payroll, my gift from Pfizer for the incomprehensible profits we make off of the free influenza vaccine given every year.

    1pm - Conference call with Dr. Fauci and the lab in Wuhan responsible for manufacturing viruses. Tell them my idea about how an apocalypse-style zombie virus would be a cool one to try for the next batch.

    2pm - A patient starts asking me about getting rid of toxins. I ask her if she has a liver and kidneys. She tells me she knows “the truth” about Big Anatomy and that the only way to detoxify herself is to eat nothing but lemon wedges and mayonnaise for weeks. I give her a Tdap booster.

    2:45pm - Help the FBI, CIA, and CDC silence the masses. Lament the fact that I can only infringe on one or two of their rights. Oh well, there’s always tomorrow.

    4pm - One of my rich patients begins to crash. Laugh as I realize I’ve mismatched her spirit animal and zodiac moon sign. I switch out the Purple Amethyst above her bed for a Tiger’s Eye geode. She stabilizes. I throw some ginkgo leaves on her for good measure

    6pm - Go onto YouTube and see coronavirus conspiracy videos everywhere. Curse my all powerful government for how inept they are at keeping people from spreading “the truth”

    6:10pm - Go onto Amazon and see that a book about “the truth” is the #1 seller this week. Question the power of my all powerful government. Make a reminder to myself to get more Tdap boosters from the Surgeon General next time we talk.

    7pm - Time to go home. Before I leave, sacrifice a goat to Dr. Fauci and say three Hippocratic Oaths.

    9pm - Take a contented sigh as I snuggle under the covers made of the tinfoil hats of my enemies, realizing that my 4 years of medical school and 3 years of residency training have been put to good use today.

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