The coronavirus

gimmesometruth27

Ray J. T. said:

tempo_n_groove said:

bbiggs said:

There are reports of the virus damaging not only the lungs, but the heart muscle as well. 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/khn.org/news/mysterious-heart-damage-not-just-lung-troubles-befalling-covid-19-patients/amp/

My 83 year old cousin just succumbed to this in that way.  His heart just stopped beating.
We are still getting details but from what we know he was sick for a week and his heart just stopped.  He did have Covid.

Sorry to hear about this. 

me too. i am so sorry T&G.

A friend of mine in England lost his father to covid last weekend,

mcgruff10

Nearly four weeks later my old neighbor is finally breathing on his own.  Small improvements.  How do you tell someone who has been in a coma for four weeks that your three siblings and mom all died? Could the stress from this news actually kill him ?

oftenreading

mcgruff10 said:

Nearly four weeks later my old neighbor is finally breathing on his own.  Small improvements.  How do you tell someone who has been in a coma for four weeks that your three siblings and mom all died? Could the stress from this news actually kill him ?

Best of luck to him, and to everyone who is dealing with the loss of family or friends or others who are important to them. It's impossible not to worry that we'll all be in that boat at some point. 

oftenreading

I know there has been some info posted about the American personal payment, whatever that program is called, but I don't think we've posted about Canada's CERB, applications for which opened yesterday. I know someone who applied and indeed it apparently is as easy as the story below says - less than 5 minutes, and the website didn't freeze. The proof will come when the money arrives, though, and many are waiting to see what/if is done for seasonal workers.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/coronavirus-covid-19-cerb-aid-federal-bc-1.5524183

Federal COVID-19 benefit a blessing to many, but critics say some falling through the cracks

Liam Britten · CBC News · Posted: Apr 06, 2020 7:38 PM PT | Last Updated: 11 hours ago

Since Monday morning, over half a million Canadians facing unemployment due to the coronavirus pandemic have applied for a new federal aid program.

The Canada emergency response benefit (CERB) offers $2,000 per month for up to four months to people left unemployed by the crisis.

Keisha Cleaver of Vancouver applied online for the benefit first thing in the morning and said it took her only a few clicks.

"It said we will send you $2,000 in three to five days," Cleaver said. "That was it. I took a picture of the screen because I couldn't believe that was it."

Keshia Cleaver spent the past year on maternity leave after giving birth to Barlow. That left her family's financial situation in a challenging position even before the coronavirus emergency began. (Maggie MacPherson/CBC)

Cleaver said getting the money is "huge." She and her partner pay almost half their income as rent. She was on maternity leave for the past year and had just returned to work, starting a new job as a server.

Without the CERB money, she said, the family was planning to live in a trailer on her father's property on Vancouver Island.

In B.C., there are plenty of happy applicants but also concerns some people are still falling through the cracks.

Without the money from CERB, Cleaver said, she, her son Barlow and partner were likely going to leave Vancouver to live on her father's property on Vancouver Island. (Maggie MacPherson/CBC)

'People are really confused'

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau said there would be adjustments coming to CERB for those who are still employed but are making less than they normally would because of the crisis as well as for gig workers, contractors and other types of workers.

B.C. Federation of Students chairperson Tanysha Klassen says those changes can't come soon enough for some workers, including some post-secondary students she represents.

Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has acknowledged the CERB program is not helping all Canadians, including students, and said more relief will be announced. (Justin Tang/Canadian Press)

Some students work only in the summer and would not have accrued enough hours or income last year to qualify. Others are facing the problem of their summer jobs simply not existing in 2020.

"People are really confused … about what we qualify and what we don't qualify for," Klassen said, adding her group is waiting "excitedly" for updates to help students.

Taylor Bachrach, NDP MP for Skeena-Bulkley Valley in northwestern B.C., said he has been hearing from constituents who don't qualify, like seasonal commercial fishermen.

Bachrach and the NDP are advocating for an approach based on the idea of universal basic income. Pay every adult Canadian $2,000 now, Bachrach explained, and then claw the money back from people who don't need it at tax time.

"Our feeling is there might be a better approach," Bachrach said. "We need to get help to the people who need it and we need to do that as quickly as possible."

Linda Winterton is pictured in her Pilates studio in North Vancouver. She thinks she may have to close the studio as a result of the pandemic. (Maggie MacPherson/CBC)

Hope today

The office of Employment Minister Carla Qualtrough said 642,000 Canadians had applied for CERB by late Monday afternoon.

This brings the total number of applications for Employment Insurance and CERB to 3.18 million since March 15.

Linda Winteron of North Vancouver said she's glad she was able to qualify for CERB today but is worried about tomorrow.

She has been a self-employed Pilates instructor for 21 years. The money she gets for CERB will help with groceries and her mortgage but won't leave her enough to pay for her commercial lease on May 1.

"I can't start a new business at 57," Winteron said. "This might be the end for me."

A bigger help for her, she said, would be a freeze on commercial evictions during the crisis as is being done for residential tenants in B.C.

mfc2006

mcgruff10 said:

Nearly four weeks later my old neighbor is finally breathing on his own.  Small improvements.  How do you tell someone who has been in a coma for four weeks that your three siblings and mom all died? Could the stress from this news actually kill him ?

Glad he's doing better. That news will be tough for him to hear...ugh.

Spiritual_Chaos

nvm.

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static111

RideRick said:

static111 said:

don't make a Brexit joke...don't make a Brexit joke...don't make a brexit joke....Pheewwwwww 

Well... Boris is not shaking any hands now is he..  

https://www.theguardian.com/world/video/2020/mar/27/i-shook-hands-with-everybody-says-boris-johnson-weeks-before-coronavirus-diagnosis-video

Looks like he might get his very own Brexit after all.

pjl44

The next time someone moans about Republicans being uniquely heartless, remember all the ghouls that come out to mock Boris Johnson, Rand Paul, etc. when they fall ill.

bbiggs

pjl44 said:

The next time someone moans about Republicans being uniquely heartless, remember all the ghouls that come out to mock Boris Johnson, Rand Paul, etc. when they fall ill.

Don't forget Rush Limbaugh.  Maybe compassion is conditional.

josevolution

pjl44 said:

The next time someone moans about Republicans being uniquely heartless, remember all the ghouls that come out to mock Boris Johnson, Rand Paul, etc. when they fall ill.

Who here has mocked either I know some including myself have said karma is a bitch but anything more than that I haven’t seen it ..Republicans are heartless though see kids in cages and standing by a total idiot peice of shit human while thousands have died..

mfc2006

josevolution said:

pjl44 said:

The next time someone moans about Republicans being uniquely heartless, remember all the ghouls that come out to mock Boris Johnson, Rand Paul, etc. when they fall ill.

Who here has mocked either I know some including myself have said karma is a bitch but anything more than that I haven’t seen it ..Republicans are heartless though see kids in cages and standing by a total idiot peice of shit human while thousands have died..

BINGO.

pjl44

josevolution said:

pjl44 said:

The next time someone moans about Republicans being uniquely heartless, remember all the ghouls that come out to mock Boris Johnson, Rand Paul, etc. when they fall ill.

Who here has mocked either I know some including myself have said karma is a bitch but anything more than that I haven’t seen it ..Republicans are heartless though see kids in cages and standing by a total idiot peice of shit human while thousands have died..

Yes, going out of your way to exclaim karma is a bitch just because you have different politics demonstrates one's visceral cruelty

CM189191

pjl44 said:

The next time someone moans about Republicans being uniquely heartless, remember all the ghouls that come out to mock Boris Johnson, Rand Paul, etc. when they fall ill.

As people around here will surely be surprised to hear, I have no empathy or sympathy for people like Johnson/Paul/Limbaugh/etc who have made a career out of damaging our society.

The world will be a better place without them, and their mockery serves as a warning to those who hope to fill their shoes when they're gone.

josevolution

pjl44 said:

josevolution said:

pjl44 said:

The next time someone moans about Republicans being uniquely heartless, remember all the ghouls that come out to mock Boris Johnson, Rand Paul, etc. when they fall ill.

Who here has mocked either I know some including myself have said karma is a bitch but anything more than that I haven’t seen it ..Republicans are heartless though see kids in cages and standing by a total idiot peice of shit human while thousands have died..

Yes, going out of your way to exclaim karma is a bitch just because you have different politics demonstrates one's visceral cruelty

Yeah ok if someone is posting of tweeting that the virus is a hoax and they in turn become infected I guess you could say bad luck or karma is a bitch either fits..

nicknyr15

CM189191 said:

pjl44 said:

The next time someone moans about Republicans being uniquely heartless, remember all the ghouls that come out to mock Boris Johnson, Rand Paul, etc. when they fall ill.

As people around here will surely be surprised to hear, I have no empathy or sympathy for people like Johnson/Paul/Limbaugh/etc who have made a career out of damaging our society.

The world will be a better place without them, and their mockery serves as a warning to those who hope to fill their shoes when they're gone.

Psycho. Not surprised at all though. You’re right about that at least 

Spiritual_Chaos

On the topic of public health choices made:

Calls to US helpline jump 891%, as White House is warned of mental health crisis^

The national hotline providing emergency help to people suffering from emotional distress has received nearly nine times more calls than it did this time last year, with tens of thousands of Americans reaching out for assistance amid the coronavirus crisis, according to U.S. officials.

Federal officials on the front lines of the U.S. government’s pandemic response have privately warned members of the White House and Department of Homeland Security that many more Americans will find themselves in “dire straits” over the coming weeks, and that U.S. agencies have yet to properly prepare for the unfolding “mental health crisis.”

“I am very concerned,” said one U.S. official.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/calls-us-helpline-jump-891-white-house-warned/story?id=70010113

DewieCox

Not offering sympathy for a psychopath isn’t psychotic. Karma doesn’t exist or someone like Rush Limbaugh and others so blindly extremely one sided would’ve been wiped from the earth long ago. 

brianlux

Just in case no one has said it yet:  Fuck the coronavirus.

Spiritual_Chaos

DewieCox said:

Not offering sympathy for a psychopath isn’t psychotic. Karma doesn’t exist or someone like Rush Limbaugh and others so blindly extremely one sided would’ve been wiped from the earth long ago. 

DewieCox said:

This is borderline psychotic.

mfc2006

brianlux said:

Just in case no one has said it yet:  Fuck the coronavirus.

YES.