1200 hundred perished today here in America that’s like 4 plane crashes in one day, I’m not sure how anyone in this nation is not taking this seriously like those 8 republican governors..
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My understanding is that in each of those states schools are closed, non-essential businesses are closed, and gatherings of ten or more aren't permitted. If there's anything that says the contrary, I'd be interested to see it. They just haven't specifically issued a "stay at home order."
That's what happened here in MA. When Charlie Baker issued the order it made no practical difference. Everything was already locked down anyway. I think the only incremental thing was you couldn't walk into a restaurant for takeout - they had to bring it out curbside.
I like your t-shirt. You should wear it to a show!
I thought I read somewhere that that hot politician said Swedish citizens are responsible to make good choices independently? You have heard US findings of transmission in the air through talking?
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
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I am getting anxiety just looking at this. The horror!
No shit. That beer looks awful
Has to say something negative. But got nothing to say. So reaches for something about the beer while hoping no one mentions that he himself comes from the country famous for LiteDietLightPiss
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
To go to a cafe, to the hairdresser or go shopping, it would not be wrong to continue with that kind of activity?
- No, I think you should keep doing that. Definitely. The only ones who should not do it are those who are old and sick. They should not move too much in the community.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Johan Giesecke, former state epidemiologist and now adviser to the World Health Organization WHO, tells Expressen that there is always a delay in the number of cases reported, highlighting the great work done by the healthcare staff.
- I think reporting will be better. But it is important for all of us who are into statistics to remember that it all starts with a nurse or doctor who has to fill out a form while having dying people in the room next door.
He believes that Sweden will have reached the peak of the number of dead later in April.
- A lot of people will die in this disease. In two or three weeks we have reached the apex, I am pretty sure. But there will be a few thousand people dying, I think that is pretty clear. This can be seen on curves and comparing with other countries.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I am getting anxiety just looking at this. The horror!
No shit. That beer looks awful
Has to say something negative. But got nothing to say. So reaches for something about the beer while hoping no one mentions that he himself comes from the country famous for LiteDietLightPiss
Sorry man was just trying to make a lighthearted ribbing. No offense was meant.
I miss doing exactly what you were doing. It looks like a cool place and a good time.
https://twitter.com/joenbc/status/1246619182604734466?s=21 Remember that travel ban the Baffoon touted as him being out in front of the virus, who’s enforcing it? If this virus originated in Mexico he would of had all of our armed forces at the border and at airports..
On March 25, a total of 42 deaths were reported, but after a retrospective revision, the figure was in reality 97. On March 26, 66 people were reported dead, but after a revision, the figure was 124, according to TT.
In the future it will not be like that, says state epidemiologist Anders Tegnell. He also believes that the number of corona deaths reported will be higher than in other countries.
- It's a difficult area. Above all, there are uncertainties in the initial period. But in the long run, within a few days, we probably have the world's most exact death statistics in this area because we can follow people at the social security number level.
The infected persons are compared to the Swedish death register.
- We coordinate all cases and see if they show up in the death register, which is not possible in all countries. Sweden and some other countries can do that. Thus, our death statistics will probably be higher and more exact than any other country, I would argue.
In Denmark, 161 people have been reported dead, in Norway 62, and in Finland 25 people, according to Worldometers. It is difficult to compare between countries, Anders Tegnell believes, partly because countries indicate the cause of death in different ways.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
I would pick anyone when pared against those morons, but I will choose option 3 which is a long list of doctors and scientists I have read on slowing the spread. I agree that those guys are idiots but I fear for Sweden that these beliefs are causing more deaths in your country. Hope I'm wrong.
I hope you and your family are safe, SC. Seems like a country behaving like our biggest idiots here..
Who would you rather trust the advice of for any given question - former Swedish state epidemiologist Johan Giesecke --
-- or the trio of Mike Pence, Jared and Donald?
Except that those aren't the two options. Would you trust the mandatory lockdown behaviour that every country struggling with CoVID-19 has suggested is the right move, or the advice of Giesecke?
Also, the video you shared called "Explained: Sweden's no-lockdown approach to coronavirus" offered absolutely zero explanations from Sweden's leaders about why they feel justifiable in responding differently than the rest of the world, and in fact ended with a scientist saying that she feels the government ought to mandate more. This is a level of exceptionalism from you on par with what you would criticize those from the USA for having.
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Would you trust the mandatory lockdown behaviour that every country struggling with CoVID-19 has suggested is the right move, or the advice of Giesecke?
I don't blindly trust Giesecke at all. But I have no problems putting my trust in the combined knowledge of the Swedish Public Health Authority on a similar level to most of the rest of the world.
With the information that the Danish and Norwegian Public Health Authorities being in line with the swedish (but their politicians not following their advice) it tips it all over to the option of "we're probably not doing stuff that is all that crazy".
As someone said, "keeping the whole country on lockdown for a extensive amount of time would be the experient, not what we are doing"
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
Also, the video you shared called "Explained: Sweden's no-lockdown approach to coronavirus" offered absolutely zero explanations from Sweden's leaders about why they feel justifiable in responding differently than the rest of the world, and in fact ended with a scientist saying that she feels the government ought to mandate more. This is a level of exceptionalism from you on par with what you would criticize those from the USA for having.
Where is this exceptionalism exactly? That I posted a video where criticism was allowed to be brought up? Is that the sign of swedish exceptionalism? I'm sorry that I come from a country where debate is exceptionally allowed... and not from a world far, far away ruled by Kato or wherever you are typing from.
And sorry for finding and posting a video in english covering Sweden.
Here is another one, from BBC with sweden's state epidemiologist, look for your answers there truthseeker
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
That's what happened here in MA. When Charlie Baker issued the order it made no practical difference. Everything was already locked down anyway. I think the only incremental thing was you couldn't walk into a restaurant for takeout - they had to bring it out curbside.
I thought I read somewhere that that hot politician said Swedish citizens are responsible to make good choices independently? You have heard US findings of transmission in the air through talking?
Anyhow, when in Rome... Cheers!
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
To go to a cafe, to the hairdresser or go shopping, it would not be wrong to continue with that kind of activity?
Explained: Sweden’s no-lockdown approach to coronavirus
https://youtu.be/zdZAZRiFq24
I miss doing exactly what you were doing. It looks like a cool place and a good time.
Remember that travel ban the Baffoon touted as him
being out in front of the virus, who’s enforcing it? If this virus originated in Mexico he would of had all of our armed forces at the border and at airports..
I hope you and your family are safe, SC.
Seems like a country behaving like our biggest idiots here..
why oh why is this idiot even getting aired all tv stations should just ignore him all except faux off course!
-- or the trio of Mike Pence, Jared and Donald?
I agree that those guys are idiots but I fear for Sweden that these beliefs are causing more deaths in your country.
Hope I'm wrong.
Also, the video you shared called "Explained: Sweden's no-lockdown approach to coronavirus" offered absolutely zero explanations from Sweden's leaders about why they feel justifiable in responding differently than the rest of the world, and in fact ended with a scientist saying that she feels the government ought to mandate more. This is a level of exceptionalism from you on par with what you would criticize those from the USA for having.
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With the information that the Danish and Norwegian Public Health Authorities being in line with the swedish (but their politicians not following their advice) it tips it all over to the option of "we're probably not doing stuff that is all that crazy".
As someone said, "keeping the whole country on lockdown for a extensive amount of time would be the experient, not what we are doing"
And sorry for finding and posting a video in english covering Sweden.
Here is another one, from BBC with sweden's state epidemiologist, look for your answers there truthseeker
https://www.facebook.com/bbcnews/videos/995730507487515/