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I can't deal with all this S O C I A L I S M.
Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
The poster doesn't seem to be defending anything?Thoughts_Arrive said:
Btw. You defending a regime with a record of human rights violations says a lot more about you than me.CM189191 said:Thoughts_Arrive said:Too bad. I cannot control people taking my memes as right wing extremist. I know what I mean.
You misspelled propaganda....
...and misinformation"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:
I think reopening the economy today is a bad idea, and I haven’t seen anyone suggest that. Trump said “soon” but who knows what that means, soon is all relevant.Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:
I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open.josevolution said:
Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..mickeyrat said:
I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway.We're all worried about our financial future, which is more or less fucked regardless, in the short term.
What do you think the economy is going to look like in four months with an unchecked & highly contagious virus that kills hundreds of thousands, if not more?
What happens to the doctors and nurses on the front lines between now & then?
I think experts need to look at small businesses, find out how long before they start closing for good. Look at big businesses, find out how many layoffs they will make after 1 month, 2 months, etc. When those small businesses close those people and everyone they employ are out of work. There will like be far more people looking for work than jobs available. Many will not recover from that.
Then talk with medical experts, predict when this will spike. The goal wouldn’t be to eradicate the virus, but to even out the cases so hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. Find out when those 2 lines cross, the line of irreparable damage to the economy and the virus.Younger, healthier people have close to a 100% survival rate. So younger, healthy people can go back to work and live more or less normal lives. Certain things will change for a very long time, that’s why I said more or less.
High risk people continue to self quarantine and utilize senior hours.It won’t be this week. But it may be next month or the month after. But if we continue like this for 6 months I predict the economy will do more damage than the virus will.I think right now 100% of the energy and focus should be on containment, and giving the healthcare professionals a fighting chance, and reassess in 2-3 weeks.
But there are far too many voices crying about the economy, and the long term impact on it, and not enough worried about the doctors and nurses on the front lines.
If only we could implement what could be an effective measure of virus spread through national lockdown instead wasting all of this time being inefficient because the Feds don't have the fucking balls to try and implement this everywhere....everyone should agree that a long term lock in is not something that will be good and actually follow the rules in place now to try and save lives.The love he receives is the love that is saved0 -
@Thoughts_ArriveDon’t you have University studies to attend to instead of deliberately trying to aggravate people with your inane posts0
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Knock it off, already.Thoughts_Arrive said:Do not blame China!Blame China = Racist!0 -
I don’t agree at all sorry but I’m listening to MD’s I work with fuck the politicians I’m not going to go on their advice they can screw themselves! Like I said let him go and volunteer at a senior center or at testing stations let’s see him get close to the fire..mace1229 said:
I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open.josevolution said:
Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..mickeyrat said:I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
F Me In The Brain said:Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:
I think reopening the economy today is a bad idea, and I haven’t seen anyone suggest that. Trump said “soon” but who knows what that means, soon is all relevant.Merkin Baller said:mace1229 said:
I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open.josevolution said:
Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..mickeyrat said:I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway.We're all worried about our financial future, which is more or less fucked regardless, in the short term.
What do you think the economy is going to look like in four months with an unchecked & highly contagious virus that kills hundreds of thousands, if not more?
What happens to the doctors and nurses on the front lines between now & then?
I think experts need to look at small businesses, find out how long before they start closing for good. Look at big businesses, find out how many layoffs they will make after 1 month, 2 months, etc. When those small businesses close those people and everyone they employ are out of work. There will like be far more people looking for work than jobs available. Many will not recover from that.
Then talk with medical experts, predict when this will spike. The goal wouldn’t be to eradicate the virus, but to even out the cases so hospitals aren’t overwhelmed. Find out when those 2 lines cross, the line of irreparable damage to the economy and the virus.Younger, healthier people have close to a 100% survival rate. So younger, healthy people can go back to work and live more or less normal lives. Certain things will change for a very long time, that’s why I said more or less.
High risk people continue to self quarantine and utilize senior hours.It won’t be this week. But it may be next month or the month after. But if we continue like this for 6 months I predict the economy will do more damage than the virus will.I think right now 100% of the energy and focus should be on containment, and giving the healthcare professionals a fighting chance, and reassess in 2-3 weeks.
But there are far too many voices crying about the economy, and the long term impact on it, and not enough worried about the doctors and nurses on the front lines.
If only we could implement what could be an effective measure of virus spread through national lockdown instead wasting all of this time being inefficient because the Feds don't have the fucking balls to try and implement this everywhere....everyone should agree that a long term lock in is not something that will be good and actually follow the rules in place now to try and save lives.I'm with you. We have an impotent federal government with a man baby at the helm who is completely incapable of rising any where close to what this nation needs as a leader.
An immediate nationwide 3 week shutdown would hurt, big time... but we would recover.
The longer the virus spreads, the worse the immediate impact to EVERYTHING, including the recovery, is going to be... how do people not understand this?0 -
I don't see how that is financially possible. 1 month of covering salaries has got to be eat up the budget for the entire year. Its all nice to hear and sounds great, but where does that money come from? DO they pay these salaries for a month then government shuts down for the rest of the year? I just don't see how that is possible.Spiritual_Chaos said:I can't deal with all this S O C I A L I S M.0 -
Better to pay to keep people employed than to pay for the disruption caused by mass layoffs and unemployment, the government has said.mace1229 said:
I don't see how that is financially possible. 1 month of covering salaries has got to be eat up the budget for the entire year. Its all nice to hear and sounds great, but where does that money come from? DO they pay these salaries for a month then government shuts down for the rest of the year? I just don't see how that is possible.Spiritual_Chaos said:I can't deal with all this S O C I A L I S M.
/.../While countries like Denmark have famously robust safety nets, even the Conservative government in Britain has, after years of austerity, adopted a similar approach. “For the first time in our history, the government is going to step in and pay people’s wages,” the British chancellor of the Exchequer, Rishi Sunak, said last week. The plan, which is still being developed, will pay up to about $2,900 a month to workers who have lost hours but are not laid off.The center-right government in Germany will spend more than $40 billion to help small businesses cover basic needs to stay afloat during the crisis. That is in addition to a program aimed at larger companies, called “kurzarbeit,” or “short-time working,” that covers lost wages for employees who are sent home, to avoid laying them off. Economists expect about two million workers to receive aid under the program, more than during the financial crisis a decade ago.“We have a security net, and people don’t fall below the security net,” said Dierk Hirschel, the chief economist of ver.di, one of Germany’s largest trade unions. “But people are going to lose income, and in a traumatic way.”"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
josevolution said:
I don’t agree at all sorry but I’m listening to MD’s I work with fuck the politicians I’m not going to go on their advice they can screw themselves! Like I said let him go and volunteer at a senior center or at testing stations let’s see him get close to the fire..mace1229 said:
I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open.josevolution said:
Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..mickeyrat said:I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway.
I'm with you on this. I don't work in a hospital, but a good percentage of my clients are doctors and I'm gathering information directly from them. I base my thoughts on what medical experts are saying and nobody else.
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It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't spend 55% of your entire budget on war.mace1229 said:
I don't see how that is financially possible. 1 month of covering salaries has got to be eat up the budget for the entire year. Its all nice to hear and sounds great, but where does that money come from? DO they pay these salaries for a month then government shuts down for the rest of the year? I just don't see how that is possible.Spiritual_Chaos said:I can't deal with all this S O C I A L I S M.Monkey Driven, Call this Living?0 -
THIS^^^bbiggs said:josevolution said:
I don’t agree at all sorry but I’m listening to MD’s I work with fuck the politicians I’m not going to go on their advice they can screw themselves! Like I said let him go and volunteer at a senior center or at testing stations let’s see him get close to the fire..mace1229 said:
I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open.josevolution said:
Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..mickeyrat said:I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway.
I'm with you on this. I don't work in a hospital, but a good percentage of my clients are doctors and I'm gathering information directly from them. I base my thoughts on what medical experts are saying and nobody else.I LOVE MUSIC.
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Whoa, we have a center-right government in Germany? They got that wrong, thank goodness. Center, yes. Center-right, no.0
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Me too bro this shit is real I’m living it and the fear is real I see it on the nurses faces the doctors faces everyday I walk into work!bbiggs said:josevolution said:
I don’t agree at all sorry but I’m listening to MD’s I work with fuck the politicians I’m not going to go on their advice they can screw themselves! Like I said let him go and volunteer at a senior center or at testing stations let’s see him get close to the fire..mace1229 said:
I thought it was idiotic when I heard heard about this comment. I finally just watched the clip. And I don’t think that’s what he was actually saying. I don’t think he did a good job of talking about it. But I think he was just saying destroying the economy is going to have a bigger impact and seniors can worry about themselves. He didn’t say reopen the economy today and let seniors die. He said if it’s closed more than 3 months we may have irreparable damage to the economy. I agree with that. And that Seniors can take care of themselves. I wouldn’t have phrased it that way, but I also agree. Many stores already have senior hours before they open.josevolution said:
Fuck him let him go and volunteer at one of the hospitals put your money where your mouth is asshole , I’m sorry but I despise 99.9% of Republicans staring with asshole #1 you know the one who wants to just start up everything because the economy dictates it fuck you and your whole party I take it bake I despise every Republican..mickeyrat said:I would say before we destroy our economy and create more harm, the economy should reopen. And those who are high risk, including seniors and those with immuno diseases, should continue to self quarantine and utilize things like senior shopping hours. Because at some point destroying the economy will destroy lives too, we need to get back to more of a normal before we get to that point. That doesn’t mean just sacrifice seniors.
Listening to his entire segment that’s what my take was on it anyway.
I'm with you on this. I don't work in a hospital, but a good percentage of my clients are doctors and I'm gathering information directly from them. I base my thoughts on what medical experts are saying and nobody else.jesus greets me looks just like me ....0 -
By the way folks can we somehow just stop attacking each other here please everyone deserves to be heard! It’s Hard to Imagine comes to mind..jesus greets me looks just like me ....0
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True, but what is the income tax in Denmark?rgambs said:
It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't spend 55% of your entire budget on war.mace1229 said:
I don't see how that is financially possible. 1 month of covering salaries has got to be eat up the budget for the entire year. Its all nice to hear and sounds great, but where does that money come from? DO they pay these salaries for a month then government shuts down for the rest of the year? I just don't see how that is possible.Spiritual_Chaos said:I can't deal with all this S O C I A L I S M.I just googled it, average over the last 20 years was 65%. It’s also amazing what you can afford when you tax your citizens an astonishing 65%.That didn’t seem right, but saw it posted in several sites.
and if they pay 75% of their salary, then tax them 65%, they really are paying less than half.0 -
Whatever they pay. Post some metrics where how they do it in Denmark, in relations to the security and care for their citizens and care for the planet, would be worse than a "yippie - low taxes"-country.mace1229 said:
True, but what is the income tax in Denmark?rgambs said:
It's amazing what you can accomplish when you don't spend 55% of your entire budget on war.mace1229 said:
I don't see how that is financially possible. 1 month of covering salaries has got to be eat up the budget for the entire year. Its all nice to hear and sounds great, but where does that money come from? DO they pay these salaries for a month then government shuts down for the rest of the year? I just don't see how that is possible.Spiritual_Chaos said:I can't deal with all this S O C I A L I S M.I just googled it, average over the last 20 years was 65%. It’s also amazing what you can afford when you tax your citizens an astonishing 65%.That didn’t seem right, but saw it posted in several sites.
and if they pay 75% of their salary, then tax them 65%, they really are paying less than half.
So in , in what way way is their income tax of negative effect? Seems like they e.g. can make it a tad better for their citizens during corona.
EDIT: Maybe that was not the point of your post.
Anyway: my point: STOP WARS.Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
distract deflect divideThoughts_Arrive said:
Btw. You defending a regime with a record of human rights violations says a lot more about you than me.CM189191 said:Thoughts_Arrive said:Too bad. I cannot control people taking my memes as right wing extremist. I know what I mean.
You misspelled propaganda....
...and misinformation
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Australia closing bit by bit for anyone interested.. still refuse to shut us down completely. Yes we are just as confused as most would be reading this🙄 They didn't give us new figures with the update except that the positive covid19 numbers are rising fast. I expect new numbers tomorrow.
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I don't get it. what is wrong about voting blue no matter who?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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