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  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,074
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    I agree with you there.  A lot of philosophical questions will be buzzing around and have to be answered. 
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Exactly.

    It being deemed unpalatable but necessary (as has been mentioned) doesn't fly with me.
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,074
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Additionally I’m not advocating selecting anyone to die that is crazy. I’m more for if we are on the verge of societal collapse due to the economics of a shut down maybe the best answer is to just let nature run it’s course.  This would only be a worst case scenario decision.
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • tempo_n_groove
    tempo_n_groove Posts: 41,359
    mace1229 said:
    tish said:
    Going back to Trumps statement: After 15 days the country will assess if the cure is worse than the disease.

    This sounds reasonable and maybe hearing this will help all the stir crazy people at home who are doing the right thing.

    An argument for economy over disease:

    With earth's population saturated, perhaps the elderly, who helped run the environment into the ground, could sacrifice for the next generations, giving youth a better chance of survival?
    You do realize killing or letting old people die will do nothing for the overall population, right? 
    If your goal is really population control you’d have to kill people before they reproduce.
    This has been attempted before. Maybe I should give you time to research Hitler and see how that turned out.
    China had that 1 baby only rule for a while too.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    static111 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Additionally I’m not advocating selecting anyone to die that is crazy. I’m more for if we are on the verge of societal collapse due to the economics of a shut down maybe the best answer is to just let nature run it’s course.  This would only be a worst case scenario decision.
    This reminds of Auschwitz.  They are old, they can’t contribute, please go to the left.  You are healthy, you can work, go to the right.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Additionally I’m not advocating selecting anyone to die that is crazy. I’m more for if we are on the verge of societal collapse due to the economics of a shut down maybe the best answer is to just let nature run it’s course.  This would only be a worst case scenario decision.
    This reminds of Auschwitz.  They are old, they can’t contribute, please go to the left.  You are healthy, you can work, go to the right.  
    Agreed, and we're not even close to that point.  We value all lives in our culture. 
  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Places in Italy are making those decisions as we speak, like if you're over 60 you don't get a ventilator.

    I don't think that makes them bad people.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    edited March 2020
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Additionally I’m not advocating selecting anyone to die that is crazy. I’m more for if we are on the verge of societal collapse due to the economics of a shut down maybe the best answer is to just let nature run it’s course.  This would only be a worst case scenario decision.
    This reminds of Auschwitz.  They are old, they can’t contribute, please go to the left.  You are healthy, you can work, go to the right.  
    Agreed, and we're not even close to that point.  We value all lives in our culture. 
    I think that can be debated. 

    But anyhow --

    -- We have reached the milestone of  100,000 people getting free from Corona in the world!

    https://youtu.be/pyQF7lUaZfQ

    Now lets get to 200,000!!
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,074
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Additionally I’m not advocating selecting anyone to die that is crazy. I’m more for if we are on the verge of societal collapse due to the economics of a shut down maybe the best answer is to just let nature run it’s course.  This would only be a worst case scenario decision.
    This reminds of Auschwitz.  They are old, they can’t contribute, please go to the left.  You are healthy, you can work, go to the right.  
    Agreed, and we're not even close to that point.  We value all lives in our culture. 
    You must not live in America.  
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,470
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Additionally I’m not advocating selecting anyone to die that is crazy. I’m more for if we are on the verge of societal collapse due to the economics of a shut down maybe the best answer is to just let nature run it’s course.  This would only be a worst case scenario decision.
    This reminds of Auschwitz.  They are old, they can’t contribute, please go to the left.  You are healthy, you can work, go to the right.  
    Agreed, and we're not even close to that point.  We value all lives in our culture. 
    You must not live in America.  
    I think he's from Sweden. Not sure though.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    dignin said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Places in Italy are making those decisions as we speak, like if you're over 60 you don't get a ventilator.

    I don't think that makes them bad people.
    That sucks but doesn’t seem the same to me. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    New Jersey has the second most cases in the nation.   Holy shit.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,074
    DewieCox said:
    dignin said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Places in Italy are making those decisions as we speak, like if you're over 60 you don't get a ventilator.

    I don't think that makes them bad people.
    That sucks but doesn’t seem the same to me. 
    the only thing different is the scale
    Scio me nihil scire

    There are no kings inside the gates of eden
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Additionally I’m not advocating selecting anyone to die that is crazy. I’m more for if we are on the verge of societal collapse due to the economics of a shut down maybe the best answer is to just let nature run it’s course.  This would only be a worst case scenario decision.
    This reminds of Auschwitz.  They are old, they can’t contribute, please go to the left.  You are healthy, you can work, go to the right.  
    Agreed, and we're not even close to that point.  We value all lives in our culture. 
    You must not live in America.  

    Where do you live?  Here in California, our governor and others have been doing great work to look out for everyone including the more vulnerable- those with health problems, us "senior citizens", and the homeless.  I'm sorry if you live in a state where those people are being shoved in the furnace, so to speak.  But that's not all of America.
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,382
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Additionally I’m not advocating selecting anyone to die that is crazy. I’m more for if we are on the verge of societal collapse due to the economics of a shut down maybe the best answer is to just let nature run it’s course.  This would only be a worst case scenario decision.
    This reminds of Auschwitz.  They are old, they can’t contribute, please go to the left.  You are healthy, you can work, go to the right.  
    Agreed, and we're not even close to that point.  We value all lives in our culture. 

    not so sure about that.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,218
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  • DewieCox
    DewieCox Posts: 11,432
    edited March 2020
    static111 said:
    DewieCox said:
    dignin said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Places in Italy are making those decisions as we speak, like if you're over 60 you don't get a ventilator.

    I don't think that makes them bad people.
    That sucks but doesn’t seem the same to me. 
    the only thing different is the scale
    No, one scenario seems necessitated by a lack of preparedness, one with a total indifference for human life.
    Post edited by DewieCox on
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,114
    We now have a drive up testing center at the school I work at.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Lizard
    Lizard So Cal Posts: 12,091
    tempo_n_groove said:
    Anybody following the link between ibuprofen and the virus?
    https://www.ecowatch.com/ibuprofen-and-covid-19-2645558875.html
    anyone see that loss of sense of smell/taste could mean you are a carrier even if no other symptoms...
    https://www.sciencealert.com/mild-covid-19-might-cause-a-lost-of-smell-or-taste
    So I'll just lie down and wait for the dream
    Where I'm not ugly and you're lookin' at me
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,879
    static111 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    static111 said:
    DewieCox said:
    It doesn’t take a best case scenario regarding  a cure to ovecome the worst case scenario for outbreak and managing the virus. 

    If it comes to selecting a demographic to die then either we have need of a massive restructuring of society or to let the world burn. 
    Additionally I’m not advocating selecting anyone to die that is crazy. I’m more for if we are on the verge of societal collapse due to the economics of a shut down maybe the best answer is to just let nature run it’s course.  This would only be a worst case scenario decision.
    This reminds of Auschwitz.  They are old, they can’t contribute, please go to the left.  You are healthy, you can work, go to the right.  
    Agreed, and we're not even close to that point.  We value all lives in our culture. 
    You must not live in America.  
    I actually do.  And the doctors, nurses, representatives and people I interact with every day live in a culture where we value all lives.  So if you want to make the argument to separate the weak from the strong, go ahead and make the argument.  I don't want to hear about Trump, or Rand Paul or any other bullshit unless you want to start the rationing of services argument.  Is that where you are?  Full out fucking panic mode?
    WTF is wrong with some of you people and your unmitigated cynicism and willingness the throw everything out the window as soon as stress starts.  
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