The coronavirus

Spunkie

Jesus Mic, going to the hospital is one of my top 5 c19 fears. Glad she made it in-out with a respirator quickly! I keep telling my kid to play safe n am projecting this fear and perpetuating the anxiety. Crap, I try not to!

Edit: also thanks OP for canada athletic update. Think I'll skip the news tonight.

Sweet dreams.

Lizard

glad your wife is home safe, Mickey.  She's gonna be hurting a good while.
Bravo on eating the pink coleslaw

damn this last week was the LONGEST in my life.  time seemed to have stopped....took a drive and walk in the California poppy fields today...almost seemed like a normal world for a bit.

stay safe E1

brianlux

My wife wanted to cut up some branches (a mix of oak, manzanita and pine branches) for a friend who is dirt poor and need wood for heat.  I hate cutting wood, even with an electric chain saw, because even electrics are still a bit noisy and they're dangerous.  We got the branches cut up and boxed with no injuries and oh man, was I glad.  The last place I want to go to right now is a hospital. 

brianlux

I was thinking this evening about how this is one of those major times in history.  We're living in one of those big events- things like wars, pestilence, the dust bowl, the great depression- and it really sunk in as to how this is our time.  The people as a whole get through these things and how they do it is a sharp measure of their character.  This is our time to be the best we can be, by doing what we can and what we have to do as best we can and as smart as we can.  We'll get over the shock and this will be what we do now and hopefully, once we can get more of us back to work, we'll work hard, work smart, and help those less fortunate than us. 

Damn Corona virus.  I hope we fucking rock this shit.   I want us to look good in the history books the way my G.I. generation parents look good in the history books.  If we want to, we can do this. 

Thoughts_Arrive

Thoughts_Arrive

Spiritual_Chaos

Fuck the corona virus.

cincybearcat

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Fuck the corona virus.

Agree.

CM189191

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/762739172054601728?s=20

pjl44

If you need a laugh to break up the monotony...

https://twitter.com/protectheflames/status/1241696164782669824?s=19

Spiritual_Chaos

Mom is completely broken down. Laid off today after 30 years and the restaurant is closed down. Had my brother, who is off work, call and talk to her. At her age she won't get another job.

The economic crisis and what it will bring - will cause way larger effects than the people dying right now from the disease. It will be crazy.

Thoughts_Arrive

Same is happening in Australia. So worrying seeing very long queues outside social security offices around the country waiting to ask for money after losing their jobs. It's the depression again.

nicknyr15

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Mom is completely broken down. Laid off today after 30 years and the restaurant is closed down. Had my brother, who is off work, call and talk to her. At her age she won't get another job.

The economic crisis and what it will bring - will cause way larger effects than the people dying right now from the disease. It will be crazy.

I’m so sorry to hear. 

F Me In The Brain

First, I'm sorry to hear this about your mom, SC
Second, I'm guessing if she or someone else in your family died from the disease it would have a way larger effect for you.

F Me In The Brain

(I would rather be jobless than have someone in my family die)

Spiritual_Chaos

F Me In The Brain said:

(I would rather be jobless than have someone in my family die)

Isn't that a given? Or what are you trying to say here? 

pjl44

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

We should avoid making cruelly smug posts if someone we don't like tests positive yet also freely acknowledge that Rand Paul is a colossal asshole for not quarantining until he got his results

I absolutely do not want any harm to anyone. If harm must come, if it were towards a libertarian who stood against the initial relief package, who was publicly against stay at home orders, who cries for liberty in the face of a deadly pandemic, I’m not sure if “good” is the right word, it  isn’t, but perhaps that’s a lesson for all in this time of crisis. IIRC your views are supportive of libertarianism and I need to be respectful of that. I don’t think the govt is interested in permanently taking away our liberty, I think their priority is saving lives. But some do have frustration with excessive loyalty to beliefs in face of facts and logic that’s difficult to communicate appropriately 

below is a comment I pulled from a right leaning libertarian forum I posted here the other day . Interesting to consider -



“ It certainly seems like the Constitution is not currently in effect; with the freedom to assemble and the liberty to move about savagely curtailed, and our fundamental rights eroding to nil in the name of public safety. Hardly anyone seems to care either. Fear has swept the country, and the will of the people to resist the hamfist of state has crumpled.

So what threshold did we really cross? How many people need to be in danger before we just quit? Who gets to decide when enough is enough? The media? The trending hashtags? At what point does the constitution no longer impede our collective demands for reactionary government? Do we get a line in the sand?

Going forward, will every flu season inspire quarantines? Will every scary news story demand compliance to the powers that be? Do we just mark the constitution up with a big asterisk that says "Only when things are OK.", or do we just shred the thing altogether?

It's disheartening to see fear as the chief motivating factor for modern society at this point. We are totally vulnerable to the wills of any power capable of convincing the masses that they are in grave danger. We've supplanted self determination and personal responsibility with compliance to a shared narrative framework.

We've come full circle from the age of enlightenment to the dark ages. All it took was the threat of plague. And that's the real cost here.

Lives will be lost, grief will be suffered. But it's the liberty we choose to give away that stains our generation."

There's so much here that I don't know where to start. All I'll say is you are (per usual) dancing around the callous thing you support because you know how bad it sounds to say it plainly (here it's feeling like this is comeuppance for Rand, formerly it was stop-and-frisk). It's using politics as a channel for anger that is exceptionally crueller than any libertarian policy position. 

static111

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Mom is completely broken down. Laid off today after 30 years and the restaurant is closed down. Had my brother, who is off work, call and talk to her. At her age she won't get another job.

The economic crisis and what it will bring - will cause way larger effects than the people dying right now from the disease. It will be crazy.

Agreed and it seems like people think this is less important somehow.  If it goes on with no economic protections the income gap will grow  more will go into poverty and people will spend years digging themselves out of this.  If we don’t revolt once it gets too bad.  Meanwhile the wealthy and upper classes will largely be insulated. 

F Me In The Brain

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

(I would rather be jobless than have someone in my family die)

Isn't that a given? Or what are you trying to say here? 

Go back and read your post.

Spiritual_Chaos

F Me In The Brain said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

F Me In The Brain said:

(I would rather be jobless than have someone in my family die)

Isn't that a given? Or what are you trying to say here? 

Go back and read your post.

Well, have fun counting the dead bodies and the destruction following the next depression:



And "effect" can be more in a society, than "person dead in hospital bed"