Ticketmaster fan club seats at $125 each: Hard to imagine this in 1995

sdharv1919

CantKeepmedown said:

There are A LOT of things happening in 2020 that would've been hard to imagine in 1995

Yeah, like the Dow pushing 30,000.

Ledbetterman10

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

My friend was raging against this price on Saturday night. He actually proved me wrong on one account when I swore tickets to Philly 2016 were over $100, but they were actually $86. So forget 1995, the tickets went up $36 from a 2016 arena show to a 2020 one. 

But what’s $36 right? 

And that's without the ticketmaster charges?

I guessing so because those were fanclub tix bought here on PJ.com. 

Spiritual_Chaos

Ledbetterman10 said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

My friend was raging against this price on Saturday night. He actually proved me wrong on one account when I swore tickets to Philly 2016 were over $100, but they were actually $86. So forget 1995, the tickets went up $36 from a 2016 arena show to a 2020 one. 

But what’s $36 right? 

And that's without the ticketmaster charges?

I guessing so because those were fanclub tix bought here on PJ.com. 

Then, I would say inflation is not the only factor in play. Haha. @Kelly Curtis

Lerxst1992

JG108535 said:

Its 2020....1995 was 25 years ago! PJ has done well keeping ticket prices reasonable over the years.
One would pay $140 to see Billie Eilish who just started touring a year ago or so.
Also, none of us will walk out of that building thinking that we didn't get our moneys worth.
Worth every penny.

Eilish or PJ? Because if it’s the former I respectfully disagree.

igotid88

It was 116 in 2018. It's still cheaper than other artists

pjsteelerfan

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjsteelerfan said:

Wish Gas prices would go back to 1995 

Why? It would fuck up nature even more. 

You should wish you could bike instead.

I wan't being serious. But as another example, I wish bikes cost what they did in 1995. or cars, or houses. Or rent. 

Gibson

Rent, college tuition, food, hookers probably...

The cost of living goes up, my friend.

Live in the now...

mcgruff10

How the hell was 1995 twenty five years ago?!  We are talking a quarter of a century ago I was a junior in high school   Wow.  

Spiritual_Chaos

pjsteelerfan said:

Spiritual_Chaos said:

pjsteelerfan said:

Wish Gas prices would go back to 1995 

Why? It would fuck up nature even more. 

You should wish you could bike instead.

I wan't being serious. But as another example, I wish bikes cost what they did in 1995. or cars, or houses. Or rent. 

I know. I just wanted to get a chance to say, people should bike more.

But electronics and Nintendo games has gone down atleast. Compare buying a TV now and in the 80s.

Lerxst1992

pjl44 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

My friend was raging against this price on Saturday night. He actually proved me wrong on one account when I swore tickets to Philly 2016 were over $100, but they were actually $86. So forget 1995, the tickets went up $36 from a 2016 arena show to a 2020 one. 

But what’s $36 right? 

It's what arena shows cost now. I'll pay it for Pearl Jam, but I've been priced out of most bigger shows at this point. Have to make these decisions as a consumer.

That is everybody’s right

It sucks what concerts cost these days but since the late 90s the younger generations thought they were being brilliant by pirating  music.

the net sum effect of this wide scale theft is it significantly devalued the cost of recorded music

The artists did not do this, the younger generations changed a marketplace that had existed for decades.

these are facts, not opinion, not lamenting.

so in the wake of this devalued market, WTF are musicians to do, give people free or cheap shows?

FFS, PJ is one of the cheapest concert tickets from a premium artist.

FFS they are selling next to the stage access for $98

do fans Not want ticket fees now? So they want the process of running the lotteries and distributing the tickets for free?

the level of entitlement in the fan base can be disgusting.

KN219077

I think PJ is reasonably priced, in comparison to the market for A level acts. The band also delivers a huge bang for the buck with most shows coming in between 2:30-3;00. I couldn’t imagine making per year what I do now, even 15 years ago. I would have said don’t be ridiculous.All thing equal, I think the value per dollar / money made per hour ratio is pretty equal now to what is was 25 years ago 

bootlegger10

It isn’t  hard to imagine because this is discussed every tour.

RP112579

Looking forward to when this tour lottery stuff dies down, and people go back to posting this crap on Facebook.

BizzzyBozzzy

Inflation at 3% basically doubles the price from 1995 just as a start. Then you factor in how many people PJ employs and their salaries and benefits, rising expenses from bigger venues charging more, travel expenses, and their right to actually make a healthy profit. After that you've got (in my opinion only of course), a very reasonably priced concert ticket. It is also my opinion that the extra $20 (or whatever it is) in TM fees is a fair price to pay for the extra TC seats getting in the hands of real people regardless of whether I get one, the ease and comfort of fan to fan sale (assuming), and the single tickets. A healthy benefit to the masses, but perhaps not to a few individuals.

I wouldn't necessarily call it entitlement by the fan base. I understand exactly where they are coming from. All anyone wants is to go see something they care a lot about, and not have it be stressful or financially draining. That being said, I do believe that some people need to reframe their minds and expectations, and take a few deep breaths.

darwinstheory

I am so over this discussion. I'll just leave it at that.

BennyLaRue

Yup. It's an advanced version of https://www.reddit.com/r/ChoosingBeggars/

They have huge operating costs to run a tour and on top of that, they're entitled to make some money off of the art they make that we enjoy so much. And if they didn't, they'd have little incentive to do it again.

Spiritual_Chaos

BennyLaRue said:

Yup. It's an advanced version of https://www.reddit.com/r/ChoosingBeggars/

They have huge operating costs to run a tour and on top of that, they're entitled to make some money off of the art they make that we enjoy so much. And if they didn't, they'd have little incentive to do it again.

"some money"

Gibson

darwinstheory said:

I am so over this discussion. I'll just leave it at that.

  

pjl44

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

My friend was raging against this price on Saturday night. He actually proved me wrong on one account when I swore tickets to Philly 2016 were over $100, but they were actually $86. So forget 1995, the tickets went up $36 from a 2016 arena show to a 2020 one. 

But what’s $36 right? 

It's what arena shows cost now. I'll pay it for Pearl Jam, but I've been priced out of most bigger shows at this point. Have to make these decisions as a consumer.

That is everybody’s right

It sucks what concerts cost these days but since the late 90s the younger generations thought they were being brilliant by pirating  music.

the net sum effect of this wide scale theft is it significantly devalued the cost of recorded music

The artists did not do this, the younger generations changed a marketplace that had existed for decades.

these are facts, not opinion, not lamenting.

so in the wake of this devalued market, WTF are musicians to do, give people free or cheap shows?

FFS, PJ is one of the cheapest concert tickets from a premium artist.

FFS they are selling next to the stage access for $98

do fans Not want ticket fees now? So they want the process of running the lotteries and distributing the tickets for free?

the level of entitlement in the fan base can be disgusting.

On all of this, we agree. I see plenty of great shows for under $30. There are excellent bands playing 500-2000 person rooms every night. If all of one's favorite bands have been around 20+ years, chances are you have to do a lot of ponying up.

PB11041

pjl44 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

pjl44 said:

Ledbetterman10 said:

My friend was raging against this price on Saturday night. He actually proved me wrong on one account when I swore tickets to Philly 2016 were over $100, but they were actually $86. So forget 1995, the tickets went up $36 from a 2016 arena show to a 2020 one. 

But what’s $36 right? 

It's what arena shows cost now. I'll pay it for Pearl Jam, but I've been priced out of most bigger shows at this point. Have to make these decisions as a consumer.

That is everybody’s right

It sucks what concerts cost these days but since the late 90s the younger generations thought they were being brilliant by pirating  music.

the net sum effect of this wide scale theft is it significantly devalued the cost of recorded music

The artists did not do this, the younger generations changed a marketplace that had existed for decades.

these are facts, not opinion, not lamenting.

so in the wake of this devalued market, WTF are musicians to do, give people free or cheap shows?

FFS, PJ is one of the cheapest concert tickets from a premium artist.

FFS they are selling next to the stage access for $98

do fans Not want ticket fees now? So they want the process of running the lotteries and distributing the tickets for free?

the level of entitlement in the fan base can be disgusting.

On all of this, we agree. I see plenty of great shows for under $30. There are excellent bands playing 500-2000 person rooms every night. If all of one's favorite bands have been around 20+ years, chances are you have to do a lot of ponying up.

this is not just to be blamed on younger generations, there were plenty of boomers and gen x (my faux label) that enabled this behavior, see Jobs, Steve and his devices, and others assisted in this race to the bottom.