Ticketmaster fan club seats at $125 each: Hard to imagine this in 1995

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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    $125 tickets is surprising but what's more surprising to me is that PJ never does "tiered" pricing. So the person in the nosebleeds furthest from the stage also paid $125, which seems like a total rip to me.
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
    I think it is a poor comparison. I don't think Bad Religion is on remotely the same level as Pearl Jam and it makes sense that their ticket prices indicate that. 
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  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    High Fidelity 2000 said:
    $125 tickets is surprising but what's more surprising to me is that PJ never does "tiered" pricing. So the person in the nosebleeds furthest from the stage also paid $125, which seems like a total rip to me.
    I don't find $125 surprising, but I do think the bad seats should not be priced the same as the good ones.

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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    Always the most import (sic) factor is total subjectivity.

    Also, Bad Religion called, said Hi we opened for Pearl Jam 4x as recently as 2009 when they had fallen off your cliff.
    His eminence has yet to show. 
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  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    edited January 2020
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
    I think it is a poor comparison. I don't think Bad Religion is on remotely the same level as Pearl Jam and it makes sense that their ticket prices indicate that. 

    Terrible comparison. If Bad Religion could charge more than $35, they would. There's no way they're making more than chump change after paying out staff given the size of the venues they play. Makes financial sense for musicians at the start of their career who are trying to grow an audience. Not old hats.
  • foodboy
    foodboy Posts: 988
    if they did tiered pricing then you would find the better seats probably closer to 200 .00 so that the average would meet the required amount needed. most people wouldn't like that . and still even with tiered pricing other bands who charge more their tiered prices are still higher for the most part.  you can't compare bad religion to this band. there is no demand for their product hence the price of 35.00. 
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
    I think it is a poor comparison. I don't think Bad Religion is on remotely the same level as Pearl Jam and it makes sense that their ticket prices indicate that. 
    Exactly... You're proving my point...Its easy to say you stand for something than to actually do it.

  • BennyLaRue
    BennyLaRue Posts: 751
    Blockhead said:
    Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Pretension, the ugliest part of being a punk fan
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
    I think it is a poor comparison. I don't think Bad Religion is on remotely the same level as Pearl Jam and it makes sense that their ticket prices indicate that. 
    Exactly... You're proving my point...Its easy to say you stand for something than to actually do it.

    So if Bad Religion could sell out The Garden, or Wrigley, or San Siro, they would still charge $35 a ticket? 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    I like Bad Religion
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    PB11041 said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    Always the most import (sic) factor is total subjectivity.

    Also, Bad Religion called, said Hi we opened for Pearl Jam 4x as recently as 2009 when they had fallen off your cliff.
    So popularity = quality of music??? 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,450
    AlaG said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
    I think it is a poor comparison. I don't think Bad Religion is on remotely the same level as Pearl Jam and it makes sense that their ticket prices indicate that. 

    Terrible comparison. If Bad Religion could charge more than $35, they would. There's no way they're making more than chump change after paying out staff given the size of the venues they play. Makes financial sense for musicians at the start of their career who are trying to grow an audience. Not old hats.
    Maybe more than 35.

    But also, maybe they wouldn't charge 125 even if they could?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    edited January 2020
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
    I think it is a poor comparison. I don't think Bad Religion is on remotely the same level as Pearl Jam and it makes sense that their ticket prices indicate that. 
    Exactly... You're proving my point...Its easy to say you stand for something than to actually do it.

    Except I'm not. Bad Religion being unable to get more than $35 for their tickets proves nothing. Show me a band on Pearl Jam's level charging $35. 

    It's willful ignorance to pretend the music business in 2020 is what it was in 1995. 
    Post edited by JimmyV on
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  • Blockhead
    Blockhead Posts: 1,538
    pjsteelerfan said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
    I think it is a poor comparison. I don't think Bad Religion is on remotely the same level as Pearl Jam and it makes sense that their ticket prices indicate that. 
    Exactly... You're proving my point...Its easy to say you stand for something than to actually do it.

    So if Bad Religion could sell out The Garden, or Wrigley, or San Siro, they would still charge $35 a ticket? 
    Again with the excuse making... So your saying that since PJ can sell those places out, that justifies whatever price they want?
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,753


    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
    I think it is a poor comparison. I don't think Bad Religion is on remotely the same level as Pearl Jam and it makes sense that their ticket prices indicate that. 
    Exactly... You're proving my point...Its easy to say you stand for something than to actually do it.

    Except I'm not. Bad Religion being unable to get more than $35 for their tickets proves nothing. Show me a band on Pearl Jam's level charging $35. 

    It's willful ignorance to pretend the music business in 2020 is what it was in 1995. 


    To further this point, It's also ignorant to pretend people & their priorities don't change over the course of 25 years.

    I feel like a lot of people around here wouldn't be too keen on being held to some thing they said 25 years ago... ESPECIALLY something said in advance about an industry that underwent changes that absolutely no one could have predicted in the 2-1/2 decades that followed.


    But go have fun at your Bad Religion show, people... I'm sure there will be plenty of tickets available for you.

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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    I appreciate this thread (more or less) returning to its topic, but are we ever gonna hear back from the white supremacist?
  • pjsteelerfan
    pjsteelerfan Maryland Posts: 9,905
    Blockhead said:
    pjsteelerfan said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    JimmyV said:
    Blockhead said:
    Just like anything in life, when you like something, involved, part of a tribe or a club you tend to ignore the hypocritical acts of whatever it is your invested in... 
    PJ is no different and as the posts indicate, you guys will excuse them for any price... 
    Take a look at the 3rd post pictures posted and check out the other band... Bad Religion - an actual punk band, not a band fronting as one.
    Ticket price 1995 - $21.50
    Bad Religion Ticket Price 2020 - 35.00

    PJ Doesn't have to charge this much to make money, and you don't have to make excuses for PJ. Accept that they put making money over being true to what they've said in the past... AKA "Hypocrites" 

    And the most import factor in all of this is that Bad Religions music hasn't fallen off a cliff since 2003.
    I wouldn't pay $35 to see Bad Religion in 1995 or 2020. 
    No one is asking you too... Is that supposed to mean something?
    I think it is a poor comparison. I don't think Bad Religion is on remotely the same level as Pearl Jam and it makes sense that their ticket prices indicate that. 
    Exactly... You're proving my point...Its easy to say you stand for something than to actually do it.

    So if Bad Religion could sell out The Garden, or Wrigley, or San Siro, they would still charge $35 a ticket? 
    Again with the excuse making... So your saying that since PJ can sell those places out, that justifies whatever price they want?
    No excuse. Just curious as to you argument. Compared to their peers, PJ prices are not that outrageous.  Compare their prices to say Tool over the summer. Or the Stones. I paid more for both. I paid more for Phish, and Dave Mathews. Black Keys were more. NIN were about the same last time I saw them.

    Also, I don't think you know what is the break even point or profit margin for their shows. There is a lot more cost that goes into shows the the size of PJ vs. playing small clubs the Bad Religion are. Maybe bad religion has a high profit margin with those prices at those venues. Doubtful, but none of us know. I doubt they are touring to lose money. 
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  • Ryan_WFC
    Ryan_WFC Posts: 1,353
    foodboy said:
    if they did tiered pricing then you would find the better seats probably closer to 200 .00 so that the average would meet the required amount needed. most people wouldn't like that . and still even with tiered pricing other bands who charge more their tiered prices are still higher for the most part.  you can't compare bad religion to this band. there is no demand for their product hence the price of 35.00. 

    And the fan club prices would be way higher for the most part than all of the rest of the tickets, which is a bad look.
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