Andrew Yang's Humanity Forward Movement

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  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
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    cincybearcat said:
    Man you certainly love labels and name calling in order to not have a discussion.

    @brianlux I think I see how you got with this guy.
    You don’t get to converse about this. Go read about it and keep your mouth shut. 
    Go read about what? Abortion? I’m going to ask once nicely what you are talking about. 


    Abortion, bodily autonomy, sexism, feminism, et al. You can stop reading when you learn that you don’t get an opinion. 
    So, trying to keep it somewhat non-confrontational...why do I not get an opinion, in your opinion? 
    You don’t get an opinion about what women can/should do with their bodies. Neither do I. 
    Ok, gotcha. I understand that point of view. I disagree in this topic 
    I gathered. That makes you a misogynist. 
    No, I don’t think so. Cause I think there is another life. But, as I said, the country has decided and so has the Supreme Court. So I think anyone that is anti-abortion should be so by encouraging proper sex education, access to birth control, etc. trying to minimize the need for a medical procedure to end a pregnancy.

    Honestly I think your labeling is bullshit and you do it a lot to try and not have discussion.
    I don’t think I’ve ever heard a misogynist admit to being a misogynist.    




    Well since I’m not...seriously stop being a 10 year old. 


    Less talking, more reading. 
    Don’t be so pompous.
    I’m pompous when I point out I’m an expert in a field and I’m pompous when I say I don’t get an opinion. Can’t win. 

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    cincybearcat said:
    brianlux said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Man you certainly love labels and name calling in order to not have a discussion.

    @brianlux I think I see how you got with this guy.

    With Yang or ecdanc?

    F Me In The Brain said:
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    The classic train wreck  emoji:

    the brady label maker 

    Ah yes.  I've had a few of his labels applied to my forehead with Gorilla Glue yet even they they don't stick.  Must be my Teflon personality! :smiley:
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    -Roberto Benigni

  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    ecdanc said:
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    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Man you certainly love labels and name calling in order to not have a discussion.

    @brianlux I think I see how you got with this guy.
    You don’t get to converse about this. Go read about it and keep your mouth shut. 
    Go read about what? Abortion? I’m going to ask once nicely what you are talking about. 


    Abortion, bodily autonomy, sexism, feminism, et al. You can stop reading when you learn that you don’t get an opinion. 
    So, trying to keep it somewhat non-confrontational...why do I not get an opinion, in your opinion? 
    You don’t get an opinion about what women can/should do with their bodies. Neither do I. 
    Ok, gotcha. I understand that point of view. I disagree in this topic 
    I gathered. That makes you a misogynist. 
    No, I don’t think so. Cause I think there is another life. But, as I said, the country has decided and so has the Supreme Court. So I think anyone that is anti-abortion should be so by encouraging proper sex education, access to birth control, etc. trying to minimize the need for a medical procedure to end a pregnancy.

    Honestly I think your labeling is bullshit and you do it a lot to try and not have discussion.
    I don’t think I’ve ever heard a misogynist admit to being a misogynist.    




    Well since I’m not...seriously stop being a 10 year old. 


    Less talking, more reading. 
    Don’t be so pompous.
    I’m pompous when I point out I’m an expert in a field and I’m pompous when I say I don’t get an opinion. Can’t win. 

    You are just pompous all the time maybe? 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
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    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    ecdanc said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Man you certainly love labels and name calling in order to not have a discussion.

    @brianlux I think I see how you got with this guy.
    You don’t get to converse about this. Go read about it and keep your mouth shut. 
    Go read about what? Abortion? I’m going to ask once nicely what you are talking about. 


    Abortion, bodily autonomy, sexism, feminism, et al. You can stop reading when you learn that you don’t get an opinion. 
    So, trying to keep it somewhat non-confrontational...why do I not get an opinion, in your opinion? 
    You don’t get an opinion about what women can/should do with their bodies. Neither do I. 
    Ok, gotcha. I understand that point of view. I disagree in this topic 
    I gathered. That makes you a misogynist. 
    No, I don’t think so. Cause I think there is another life. But, as I said, the country has decided and so has the Supreme Court. So I think anyone that is anti-abortion should be so by encouraging proper sex education, access to birth control, etc. trying to minimize the need for a medical procedure to end a pregnancy.

    Honestly I think your labeling is bullshit and you do it a lot to try and not have discussion.
    I don’t think I’ve ever heard a misogynist admit to being a misogynist.    




    Well since I’m not...seriously stop being a 10 year old. 


    Less talking, more reading. 
    Don’t be so pompous.
    I’m pompous when I point out I’m an expert in a field and I’m pompous when I say I don’t get an opinion. Can’t win. 

    You are just pompous all the time maybe? 
    I find you far more arrogant than me. 
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    ecdanc said:
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    ecdanc said:
    oftenreading said:
    As someone who is strongly pro-choice, I disagree with the term  “tragedy”, but let’s be realistic here - no medical or surgical procedure is risk-free so it’s always better to avoid an unwanted pregnancy where possible, rather than consider abortion as just another means of contraception. 
    No birth control is risk free. 
    Sure, but some have more risks than others, and a surgical procedure involving anaesthesia will generally have a higher risk than many of the alternative contraception options. 
    That’s fair. I just think your suggestion that something is “always better” than abortion has unintended consequences. 

    No. I work with facts and I'm not interested in providing half-truth narratives when it comes to people's health, so I don't buy this line of reasoning.

    For conversations where you think you might want to use that argument, better to just point out that pregnancy and childbirth are far more dangerous to a woman's health than abortion or any of the legitimate contraception methods. 
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    Yeah, I've had some labels tossed at me too, even just recently!  We all have.  Not very nice but if they're not true, fuck it - ultimately means nothing.

    As to the bickering, could you folks please take it to pm's already?
  • oftenreading
    oftenreading Victoria, BC Posts: 12,856
    Do the rest of us get to vote on who is more arrogant/pompous?

    Asking for a friend ;)
    my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    oftenreading said:
    ecdanc said:
    oftenreading said:
    ecdanc said:
    oftenreading said:
    As someone who is strongly pro-choice, I disagree with the term  “tragedy”, but let’s be realistic here - no medical or surgical procedure is risk-free so it’s always better to avoid an unwanted pregnancy where possible, rather than consider abortion as just another means of contraception. 
    No birth control is risk free. 
    Sure, but some have more risks than others, and a surgical procedure involving anaesthesia will generally have a higher risk than many of the alternative contraception options. 
    That’s fair. I just think your suggestion that something is “always better” than abortion has unintended consequences. 

    No. I work with facts and I'm not interested in providing half-truth narratives when it comes to people's health, so I don't buy this line of reasoning.

    For conversations where you think you might want to use that argument, better to just point out that pregnancy and childbirth are far more dangerous to a woman's health than abortion or any of the legitimate contraception methods. 
    Yeah I can see that. 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    oftenreading said:
    Do the rest of us get to vote on who is more arrogant/pompous?

    Asking for a friend ;)
    I’m fine with it. I’m sure it’ll be close. ;)
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,959
    hedonist said:
    Yeah, I've had some labels tossed at me too, even just recently!  We all have.  Not very nice but if they're not true, fuck it - ultimately means nothing.

    As to the bickering, could you folks please take it to pm's already?
    Fair enough
    hippiemom = goodness
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    oftenreading said:
    ecdanc said:
    oftenreading said:
    ecdanc said:
    oftenreading said:
    As someone who is strongly pro-choice, I disagree with the term  “tragedy”, but let’s be realistic here - no medical or surgical procedure is risk-free so it’s always better to avoid an unwanted pregnancy where possible, rather than consider abortion as just another means of contraception. 
    No birth control is risk free. 
    Sure, but some have more risks than others, and a surgical procedure involving anaesthesia will generally have a higher risk than many of the alternative contraception options. 
    That’s fair. I just think your suggestion that something is “always better” than abortion has unintended consequences. 

    No. I work with facts and I'm not interested in providing half-truth narratives when it comes to people's health, so I don't buy this line of reasoning.

    For conversations where you think you might want to use that argument, better to just point out that pregnancy and childbirth are far more dangerous to a woman's health than abortion or any of the legitimate contraception methods. 
    I hear you: you're saying you believe something else (broadly defined as "health") outweighs those unintended consequences. I understand that position. 
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    hedonist said:
    Yeah, I've had some labels tossed at me too, even just recently!  We all have.  Not very nice but if they're not true, fuck it - ultimately means nothing.

    As to the bickering, could you folks please take it to pm's already?
    Who gets to decide if they're true? ;)

  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    oftenreading said:
    Do the rest of us get to vote on who is more arrogant/pompous?

    Asking for a friend ;)
    I'll concede the vote, but not the point. :)
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    Everyone is entitled to an opinion on anything they want to have an opinion on, Mr. Thought Police.
    That doesn't mean everyone is entitled to a VOTE on every issue, but we all have opinions, including Mr. Thought Police.

    I like Yang, he's a smart fellow and I would be glad to have him as POTUS.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    rgambs said:
    Everyone is entitled to an opinion on anything they want to have an opinion on, Mr. Thought Police.
    That doesn't mean everyone is entitled to a VOTE on every issue, but we all have opinions, including Mr. Thought Police.

    I like Yang, he's a smart fellow and I would be glad to have him as POTUS.
    Why? 
  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    ecdanc said:
    rgambs said:
    Everyone is entitled to an opinion on anything they want to have an opinion on, Mr. Thought Police.
    That doesn't mean everyone is entitled to a VOTE on every issue, but we all have opinions, including Mr. Thought Police.

    I like Yang, he's a smart fellow and I would be glad to have him as POTUS.
    Why? 
    Having freedom of thought is an intrinsic part of being human.  Most opinions probably aren't worth a damn, but that doesn't mean we should control what people think.  Not that we could, anyways.
    I'm shocked a University professor would be so eager to censor the very thoughts of those with whom he disagrees.
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    rgambs said:
    ecdanc said:
    rgambs said:
    Everyone is entitled to an opinion on anything they want to have an opinion on, Mr. Thought Police.
    That doesn't mean everyone is entitled to a VOTE on every issue, but we all have opinions, including Mr. Thought Police.

    I like Yang, he's a smart fellow and I would be glad to have him as POTUS.
    Why? 
    Having freedom of thought is an intrinsic part of being human.  Most opinions probably aren't worth a damn, but that doesn't mean we should control what people think.  Not that we could, anyways.
    I'm shocked a University professor would be so eager to censor the very thoughts of those with whom he disagrees.
    Who is censoring? I'm in no position to censor anyone but myself. And I do.

    This is why I earlier said that I find cincy (and perhaps you) more arrogant than me: you grant yourself the right to have an opinion on literally everything. I would never claim that for myself. 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,760
    rgambs said:
    Everyone is entitled to an opinion on anything they want to have an opinion on, Mr. Thought Police.
    That doesn't mean everyone is entitled to a VOTE on every issue, but we all have opinions, including Mr. Thought Police.

    I like Yang, he's a smart fellow and I would be glad to have him as POTUS.
    :plus_one:

    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • rgambs
    rgambs Posts: 13,576
    ecdanc said:
    rgambs said:
    ecdanc said:
    rgambs said:
    Everyone is entitled to an opinion on anything they want to have an opinion on, Mr. Thought Police.
    That doesn't mean everyone is entitled to a VOTE on every issue, but we all have opinions, including Mr. Thought Police.

    I like Yang, he's a smart fellow and I would be glad to have him as POTUS.
    Why? 
    Having freedom of thought is an intrinsic part of being human.  Most opinions probably aren't worth a damn, but that doesn't mean we should control what people think.  Not that we could, anyways.
    I'm shocked a University professor would be so eager to censor the very thoughts of those with whom he disagrees.
    Who is censoring? I'm in no position to censor anyone but myself. And I do.

    This is why I earlier said that I find cincy (and perhaps you) more arrogant than me: you grant yourself the right to have an opinion on literally everything. I would never claim that for myself. 
    Hahaha really?  You're going to say that after firmly expressing your opinion on the topic?
    Monkey Driven, Call this Living?

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