If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
No, you didn't know the rules, because this wasn't in the rules. FFS.
Yes it was.
Jesus fucking christ, are we going to have this conversation again? You're wrong. Read this entire thread to see why.
I read the rules. No need to reread the thread. . Have a great day.
If you read the thread as well as you read the rules, it wouldn't matter anyway.
Possibly a dumb question, but I don't see the answer in the pre-sale policies. I see people here posting their 10c number when discussing their lottery results, but 10c seniority doesn't have anything to do with the lottery, does it? Only where your seats are in reserved? Thanks in advance.
Anyone who thinks they go the shaft on TOR or HAM with first or second priority BA or RS care to post shot of their entry confirmation email? As someone who won with TOR as my 3rd priority, I don't believe you folks could have rightly lost. Perhaps GA was selected inadvertently? Or picks didn't actually go in, or CC issues, or actually only entered the VF thing, or requested tickets to the Bubble Guppies. Kidding aside, it'd really like to know how that happened (as I'm sure more importantly you are).
No it looks exactly how I filled it out. When we made our picks it was a single line item BA (IIRC)
When we got the email BA was split into GA and RES
Only thing that makes sense is their program isn't reading row 2 of the BA selections and significantly understated the odds
Noticed today the generic Ticketmaster site somehow only has my first name listed in account details, no last name. I called the TM 10c lottery phone number. They said the receipt/entry had my first and last name attached, same name as my 10c membership name. I put in Nash, Balt, and St Louis. Hopefully that generic TM account without last name has no impact on the TM 10C entry and 10c membership name. The representative confirmed my name on the entry so that helps ease the worry lol
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If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
No, you didn't know the rules, because this wasn't in the rules. FFS.
Its in the rules, you just have a different interpretation of the term "seat location" than most, including the person who wrote the rules.
Possibly a dumb question, but I don't see the answer in the pre-sale policies. I see people here posting their 10c number when discussing their lottery results, but 10c seniority doesn't have anything to do with the lottery, does it? Only where your seats are in reserved? Thanks in advance.
You are correct. The lottery is random. Seat location is seniority-based.
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If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
No, you didn't know the rules, because this wasn't in the rules. FFS.
Its in the rules, you just have a different interpretation of the term "seat location" than most, including the person who wrote the rules.
Dear lord. I read "seat" based on the way they use "seat" throughout the entire document.
Maybe picking "best available" is actually the worst option than trying for just GA or just reserved?
On one hand you have 2 people with weird circumstances. On the other hand, you have dozens and dozens and dozens of people reporting results that are exactly what you'd expect. You're welcome to enter a lottery however you want, but I think you're overreacting.
It looks to not be an overreaction. At least 2 fans got denied for BA for 2 shows at 99%.
That's four total rejections at minimum. With 99% odds that should be impossible
When we made our BA selections it was ONE line item.
When we got our email, the one selection was split into 2, GA & BA.
It's possible the computer picked only on the GA and not the BA
We need to hear from our beloved 10c overlords asap
With 99% odds there could be over 100 rejections per show assuming 10,000 seats went to the 10c.
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If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
No, you didn't know the rules, because this wasn't in the rules. FFS.
Its in the rules, you just have a different interpretation of the term "seat location" than most, including the person who wrote the rules.
Dear lord. I read "seat" based on the way they use "seat" throughout the entire document.
Adding the word "location" could be the difference.
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If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
No, you didn't know the rules, because this wasn't in the rules. FFS.
Yes it was.
Jesus fucking christ, are we going to have this conversation again? You're wrong. Read this entire thread to see why.
I read the rules. No need to reread the thread. . Have a great day.
If you read the thread as well as you read the rules, it wouldn't matter anyway.
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If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
No, you didn't know the rules, because this wasn't in the rules. FFS.
Its in the rules, you just have a different interpretation of the term "seat location" than most, including the person who wrote the rules.
Dear lord. I read "seat" based on the way they use "seat" throughout the entire document.
Adding the word "location" could be the difference.
No, the word "seat" is the key, because the document uses "location" elsewhere (without the word "seat") to differentiate between GA and Reserved.
If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
No, you didn't know the rules, because this wasn't in the rules. FFS.
Its in the rules, you just have a different interpretation of the term "seat location" than most, including the person who wrote the rules.
Dear lord. I read "seat" based on the way they use "seat" throughout the entire document.
Adding the word "location" could be the difference.
No, the word "seat" is the key, because the document uses "location" elsewhere (without the word "seat") to differentiate between GA and Reserved.
You're digging your heels in on this, but clearly since nobody knows their location yet, you are incorrect. Might as well just drop the argument and move on.
I put in for Hamilton with a “best available”. Really want GA. Got my notification that I scored tickets, but no indication of GA or reserved. There is a material difference in my excitement level of GA versus reserved. Wonder why they didn’t tell me which I got?
As for verified fan. Those seats are going to be the nosebleeds, I believe. Any tickets purchased after 10 club are not going to be better than 10 club seats.
That's how we'd like it to work but have you seen any evidence that's the case? With other TM shows where they run the fan club portion, it's pretty standard to see fan club tickets spread out through all the sections along with the general sale tix.
I put in for Hamilton with a “best available”. Really want GA. Got my notification that I scored tickets, but no indication of GA or reserved. There is a material difference in my excitement level of GA versus reserved. Wonder why they didn’t tell me which I got?
No one knows why. Again, we will find out our "seat" location the week of 1/27.
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If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
If someone has a high number and they pulled reserved vs GA, they might be more likely to take a crack at Verified Fan.
Also, I think there's some fuss because you found out which you got with your confirmation in every 10C lottery to date. Not that I have any issue with this, but it's a change.
Yeah, I guess change is hard for some.
As for verified fan. Those seats are going to be the nosebleeds, I believe. Any tickets purchased after 10 club are not going to be better than 10 club seats.
Additionally, this isn't Wembley Stadium. These are arenas. The worst seat at these shows is better than some of the best RES seats at the stadium shows.
This was not the case in 2018. My buddy pulled better seats than my 10c seats through VF in both Wrigley and Fenway. He was able to get 4 seats on the field at Wrigley through VF, while I was in the 300s.
Thats why why not knowing GA/Res is a rough change for some. I would much rather take a shot there if I knew I didn’t win GA for my first choice. If I had known this was going to change I might have selected GA only so I would at least know before the VF sale.
I put in for Hamilton with a “best available”. Really want GA. Got my notification that I scored tickets, but no indication of GA or reserved. There is a material difference in my excitement level of GA versus reserved. Wonder why they didn’t tell me which I got?
Everyone will find out the week of 1/27. It's in the rules. They are only doing the lottery portion right now. The specific seat assignment will come after. I'll see you there. Good luck on the pit.
I put in for Hamilton with a “best available”. Really want GA. Got my notification that I scored tickets, but no indication of GA or reserved. There is a material difference in my excitement level of GA versus reserved. Wonder why they didn’t tell me which I got?
Everyone will find out the week of 1/27. It's in the rules. They are only doing the lottery portion right now. The specific seat assignment will come after. I'll see you there. Good luck on the pit.
These are two different classes of seat. They already know what class you are in, just not disclosing. I get that it takes a bit more time to sort seats out. You don’t want pairs to be apart. Dang, now another 10 days of anxiety. I already knew I’d get tix!
If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
If someone has a high number and they pulled reserved vs GA, they might be more likely to take a crack at Verified Fan.
Also, I think there's some fuss because you found out which you got with your confirmation in every 10C lottery to date. Not that I have any issue with this, but it's a change.
Yeah, I guess change is hard for some.
As for verified fan. Those seats are going to be the nosebleeds, I believe. Any tickets purchased after 10 club are not going to be better than 10 club seats.
Additionally, this isn't Wembley Stadium. These are arenas. The worst seat at these shows is better than some of the best RES seats at the stadium shows.
This was not the case in 2018. My buddy pulled better seats than my 10c seats through VF in both Wrigley and Fenway. He was able to get 4 seats on the field at Wrigley through VF, while I was in the 300s.
Thats why why not knowing GA/Res is a rough change for some. I would much rather take a shot there if I knew I didn’t win GA for my first choice. If I had known this was going to change I might have selected GA only so I would at least know before the VF sale.
I think there's always a chance general sale will pull better than 10c placement. The person you're quoting was saying that just due to venue size and layout that a "bad" arena seat is still better than a "great" stadium seat.
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If they go this route on the fall leg, they should charge $1.00 more to the Vitalogy Foundation for GA tix, and then people who select BA will know whether or not they won RA or RES when they look at their credit card charge
But doesn't it seem like they don't WANT you to know? Why else would the email not include the information?
I think they just haven't gone thru the seat assignment stage yet. They had X amount of 10C tickets available. Let's say 10,000 total seats. They drew those first. Notified people that they were going to the show. Then the next step (after all lotteries are complete) is to assign seats based on 10C seniority. I'm sure they could have notified those who won GA, since there are no seat assignments, but I think its fine that everyone finds out together.
I personally put in for best available and I am fine with whatever I get. We will all know by the end of the month. 7 full weeks before the shows start. Not sure why it's so urgent for some.
Then why not do it? I understand, you think it's fine; others don't. It appears a conscious choice, though, which raises the question: why?
If you have been notified that you got tickets, why does it matter NOW if its GA or RES? Make your plans and in 10 days, you will know where your tickets are. Not sure I understand the drama. Everyone will find out at the same time. Seems fair to me. I already know I am going to Hamilton. I do not know if I will be in GA or in a seat. I'll find out in a week and a half. I knew the rules before I entered. I am good with it.
If someone has a high number and they pulled reserved vs GA, they might be more likely to take a crack at Verified Fan.
Also, I think there's some fuss because you found out which you got with your confirmation in every 10C lottery to date. Not that I have any issue with this, but it's a change.
Yeah, I guess change is hard for some.
As for verified fan. Those seats are going to be the nosebleeds, I believe. Any tickets purchased after 10 club are not going to be better than 10 club seats.
Additionally, this isn't Wembley Stadium. These are arenas. The worst seat at these shows is better than some of the best RES seats at the stadium shows.
This was not the case in 2018. My buddy pulled better seats than my 10c seats through VF in both Wrigley and Fenway. He was able to get 4 seats on the field at Wrigley through VF, while I was in the 300s.
Thats why why not knowing GA/Res is a rough change for some. I would much rather take a shot there if I knew I didn’t win GA for my first choice. If I had known this was going to change I might have selected GA only so I would at least know before the VF sale.
I think there's always a chance general sale will pull better than 10c placement. The person you're quoting was saying that just due to venue size and layout that a "bad" arena seat is still better than a "great" stadium seat.
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This was not the case in 2018. My buddy pulled better seats than my 10c seats through VF in both Wrigley and Fenway. He was able to get 4 seats on the field at Wrigley through VF, while I was in the 300s.
Thats why why not knowing GA/Res is a rough change for some. I would much rather take a shot there if I knew I didn’t win GA for my first choice. If I had known this was going to change I might have selected GA only so I would at least know before the VF sale.
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