2020 Fall North American rumour thread

D-Rod

So now that we have a “rumour”  about a dozen shows will be added to Ohana beginning in early September does anybody care to speculate?  Would this be the Leg 2 that was to be fall 2020?  Does anybody remember what was rumoured ? 

  A remember talk concerning 2 Chicago shows followed by Milwaukee, Madison. 

PJNB

D-Rod said:

So now that we have a “rumour”  about a dozen shows will be added to Ohana beginning in early September does anybody care to speculate?  Would this be the Leg 2 that was to be fall 2020?  Does anybody remember what was rumoured ? 

  A remember talk concerning 2 Chicago shows followed by Milwaukee, Madison. 

All arenas. No way it is that and happening early September. Gotta be sheds and other outdoor venues. Curious if ballparks would be in play too if this rumour is true. 

ddeschler

Lot of outdoor options available in the Chicago area!  Alpine Valley, Northerly Island, Wrigley, (Guaranteed Rate), Bridgeview, Soldier Field, Tinley Park.  Just sayin',

lastexit78

Lost In Ohio said:

Here's my take:

Masks definitely help curb the spread. If you're having sex with someone you don't know, it's definitely wise to use a condom. Why anyone would have promiscuous unprotected sex is anyone's guess.

Yet with COVID, it seems to be a different story. "Who cares if you get sick and pass it around? It may not put you in the hospital!"

Now imagine if HIV could spread just because you're standing beside an infected person while waiting to cross the street.

But half the country belittles people for protecting their own lives and the lives of the community as a whole. This...makes no sense.

Masks were one type of condom in the analogy. Now we have a condom that is 95% effective. Just like how condoms break, no vaccine is 100% effective. But even the dumbest people know that 95 is higher than zero.

Isn't part of Pearl Jam's mantra to take care of each other?

If you're in a crowded group of people, it's definitely wise to wear a mask, especially indoors. Outside, walking the dog is one thing. At a crowded bar is another story.

If you're unvaccinated (including kids), for any reason, once the restrictions roll back, infection rates will rise. The best protection? Get the vaccine.

Check this out... 2-3 years in the future, you get sick with a seasonal flu, wear a mask. Stay home. Prevent it spreading. One of the reasons why the seasonal flu was down so much this past winter was due to masking and working from home. Before COVID, people would go to work sick, they'd touch everything in sight and guess what? Their co-worker's kid would end up passing it to everyone at school.

Frankly, it's pathetic that so many employers have terrible sick policies. Nobody should ever have to go to work with a transmissible disease.

Sorry, the HIV debate is ridiculous. Untreated AIDS has a case fatality rate of 100%. COVID under 1% when you count all the uncounted cases. Also slow down on the flu victory parade. Yes the flu basically vanished but it came at a huge cost, Millions unemployed, families separated and my kid basically lost a year and a half of school. I’d take a severe flu season any day I’m guessing almost every American would agree. Also enough with the 95% number as well. Fatalities for those vaccinated was at something like 1 per million the last I saw. These vaccines are almost 100% effective at preventing death and serious illness. They are also effective in preventing spread which multiple studies have proven. This was the big reason for the CDC’s updates yesterday. We definitely agree on employee sick policies though, hopefully that’s something that changes for the best because of all this. Best thing I can say going forward is encourage people to get vaccinated but if they refuse still accept them into society. Do we berate Ed when he smokes on stage? After all he’s killing himself and tobacco has been an enormous burden on our healthcare system for longer than any of have been alive. Plus that second hand smoke is lethal. Of course we don’t, we wish he’d stop smoking but we enjoy the show and hope he doesn’t get sick. That’s how I’m choosing to look at COVID going forward, hopefully Americans feel the same and we can start focusing on the environment, healthcare and other more important issues. We have a cure for COVID, it’s basically within a 5 minute drive of every American, time to move on.

tdawe

Johnny Abruzzo said:

Of the 8 vaccinated Yankees who tested positive for COVID-19, only 1 had any symptoms and those were mild. Perfect demonstration of the power of the vaccines.

Not only that: there were ~25 people in the locker room with Nevin for 2 hours during the rain delay. There are 7 additional positive cases (none symptomatic). Virtually everyone involved had the J&J vaccine, which tests showed had a ~67% efficacy rate. Do the math, it worked exactly as advertised. 

tylermoore

ddeschler said:

Lollapalooza confirmed for 2021 end of July - Aug 1.  Announcement on lineup within a week. 

Have any tickets been sold for this yet?  I went to the website, and it just asks for your email address to sign-up for ticket updates.

No I don’t even think the date has been announced. The only news I saw was that they got the green light from the city. No official announcement yet

Poncier

DEGBTI

D-Rod said:

DM282158 said:

We’ve all had our own experience with this over the last 14 months and counting. Lost jobs, businesses on the brink, lost loved ones, sickness. And all can certainly lead to fear, anxiety, frustration, anger, and deep depression. One of the few things I’ve learned is that I’m never going to change anyone’s mind. And I cant live in anyone else’s shoes. I don’t post on here often. And I literally don’t know any of you. But we all love this band. And no matter how we’ve dealt with this pandemic; how it’s affected us; what we think of the job the CDC and governments are doing; and who we voted for.... we all just want the same damn things. And in this circle - to enjoy and see our favorite band again and enjoy some beverages together. No matter of differences we may have regarding the above. I’ve never met ya’ll but feel a connection through being excited in these threads for shows, new music, etc. That’s what counts. Big cheers and turn it to 11. Can’t  wait for the next one and to enjoy new conversations with new people before rocking the F out. 

 Four things I want to say

1) well said
2) you should post more often 
3) you should formally meet us, we’re not as bad as we sound
4) rumour has it that Pearl Jam is going to play Toronto in 2022.......or 2021 

agreed!

tschav

Poncier said:

…soooo Pearl Jam Wrigley to fill a vacant 2021 date? Will be interesting to see if other multi-city tours postpone while the fests announce lineups.

HughFreakingDillon

I thought I saw something on twitter saying that PJ is starting their tour in June 2022 in Amsterdam.

Melzombie

A bunch of bands just announced Fall Tours this morning (some re-scheduled from last year)
Black Crowes, Kings of Leon, Alice Cooper, and some others I can't think of right now.
I know we are all itching for some updates... hopefully soon! 

DM282158

All Massachusetts restrictions ending May 29th. Mask mandate updated to CDC guidance. (Moved up from August 1st.)

D-Rod

"Stars on Ice" just announced a show at the First Ontario Centre in Hamilton for Saturday October 16th.  They must know something the public doesn't.  Also hearing the Canadian/ U.S border may open for July 1st. 

hollyberry1

I think this is starting to now be the Fun part of our PJ Concert Wait!! Looking at the list of US postponed shows - unsure about Canada due to what may be different Covid19 protocols - it would seem most of the US Venues could easily be rescheduled - only 2 Venues [NY and Denver] have both NBA and NHL franchises; OKC only NBA; Nashville and St. Louis only NHL; and the rest Apollo, Baltimore, LA, Oakland and SD should have plenty available dates!!  My guess is PJ reschedules the US postponed shows this Fall and adds couple Seattle shows in New arena.  But, could then tour Aust/NZ early 2022, Europe summer 2022, and back to US fall 2022 for East Coast and rescheduled Canadian shows. Just guessing and would love to hear Dimitris' take on all this.

Melzombie

I think the US is heading into the right direction.
Even NYC is adhearing to the new CDC guidelines and they have been like the strictest during all this.
I don't think we are there yet, but who knows what will happen come Fall. We need to get more people vaccinated.
Think where we were at this time last year. I was a ball of anxiety because I thought I was going to be laid off. 
Now, I'm vaccinated and readyyyy too goooo 

MyBitterHands76

HughFreakingDillon said:

I thought I saw something on twitter saying that PJ is starting their tour in June 2022 in Amsterdam.

Yeah they are touring Europe next summer. But nothing announces besides that. Sea Hear Now and Ohana Fest. Just a bunch of rumors and speculation. 

demetrios

D-Rod said:

"Stars on Ice" just announced a show at the First Ontario Centre in Hamilton for Saturday October 16th.  They must know something the public doesn't.  Also hearing the Canadian/ U.S border may open for July 1st. 

Yeah? First I read was June 12th. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canada-u-s-border-restrictions-extended-another-month-to-june-21-1.5433345 . Then read somewhere September 1st? Here, I can't even cross the border to the next province cause we are still in lock down.

D-Rod

demetrios said:

D-Rod said:

"Stars on Ice" just announced a show at the First Ontario Centre in Hamilton for Saturday October 16th.  They must know something the public doesn't.  Also hearing the Canadian/ U.S border may open for July 1st. 

Yeah? First I read was June 12th. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canada-u-s-border-restrictions-extended-another-month-to-june-21-1.5433345 . Then read somewhere September 1st? Here, I can't even cross the border to the next province cause we are still in lock down.

Oh it’s the same here.  We can’t in Ontario either . 

demetrios

D-Rod said:

demetrios said:

D-Rod said:

"Stars on Ice" just announced a show at the First Ontario Centre in Hamilton for Saturday October 16th.  They must know something the public doesn't.  Also hearing the Canadian/ U.S border may open for July 1st. 

Yeah? First I read was June 12th. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canada-u-s-border-restrictions-extended-another-month-to-june-21-1.5433345 . Then read somewhere September 1st? Here, I can't even cross the border to the next province cause we are still in lock down.

Oh it’s the same here.  We can’t Ontario . 

It sucks! They need to ease back on the restrictions. 

RatherStarved

demetrios said:

D-Rod said:

demetrios said:

D-Rod said:

"Stars on Ice" just announced a show at the First Ontario Centre in Hamilton for Saturday October 16th.  They must know something the public doesn't.  Also hearing the Canadian/ U.S border may open for July 1st. 

Yeah? First I read was June 12th. https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/canada-u-s-border-restrictions-extended-another-month-to-june-21-1.5433345 . Then read somewhere September 1st? Here, I can't even cross the border to the next province cause we are still in lock down.

Oh it’s the same here.  We can’t Ontario . 

It sucks! They need to ease back on the restrictions. 

Fully agree.  Restrictions are too much for the current risk.