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  • lastexit78
    lastexit78 Posts: 618
    Been reading some of the detailed studies regarding the extremely low risk of transmission outdoors published this week. A lot of the doctors and scientific voices I’ve most respected over the past 18 months are speaking up. I believe the CDC will be making some major changes to their guidelines in the coming weeks. With that said my pessimism over shows in 2021 is turning a little. There’s still a lot of entities in this country, political and corporate who want to perpetuate this pandemic but common sense and science will at some point rule the day. In the meantime vax up and let’s make this happen!
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,357
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Jim Tressel said:
    Impossible. I was told they wouldn’t play this year by people here. PJ is too responsible for that. 
    Just an opinion dude. Have fun at your shows, even if it’s just Ed! 😀
    My guy, please stop being so arrogantly pessimistic on all of your posts. I usually never do this, but damn man...nothing worse than a troll.
    Not that he cannot fend for himself, but 2-feign-reluctance is absolutely not a troll. He, in my limited experience, has come across as a legitimately good dude.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,013
    darwinstheory said:
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Jim Tressel said:
    Impossible. I was told they wouldn’t play this year by people here. PJ is too responsible for that. 
    Just an opinion dude. Have fun at your shows, even if it’s just Ed! 😀
    My guy, please stop being so arrogantly pessimistic on all of your posts. I usually never do this, but damn man...nothing worse than a troll.
    Not that he cannot fend for himself, but 2-feign-reluctance is absolutely not a troll. He, in my limited experience, has come across as a legitimately good dude.
    You can be a good dude and still be a troll on the internet. I’m sure I’d love to have a beer with him at a show, just annoyed with all the “I know better than you” mentality on this forum. It’s not just him. I probably do it myself, but with a positive outlook.
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  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,667
    kaw753 said:
    I don't want to get anyone too excited, but the Barenaked Ladies don't think there will be an issue crossing the border in July. Some notice went out from somewhere because Phish, Rise Against, Eric Church, and a whole lot more went out today starting very soon.

    I thought they postponed the tour with Toad and Gin Blossoms to next summer?
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    edited May 2021
    Certainly feels like an arena tour this October-December has the potential in happening doesn't it? 
  • lmckenney24
    lmckenney24 Posts: 2,100
    edited May 2021
    PJNB said:
    Certainly feels like an arena tour this October-December has the potential in happening doesn't it? 
    The potential is there. Whether the band thinks so is another topic. Does anyone know what the NHL playoff arena capacity will be? If it's 100%, they could wait to see how that plays out, then make a decision.

    Could do a small run of sheds or stadiums Oct - Nov, especially in the south due to weather if arena shows are a no go for them.
  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    darthvedder said:
    kaw753 said:
    I don't want to get anyone too excited, but the Barenaked Ladies don't think there will be an issue crossing the border in July. Some notice went out from somewhere because Phish, Rise Against, Eric Church, and a whole lot more went out today starting very soon.

    I thought they postponed the tour with Toad and Gin Blossoms to next summer?
    You are correct. I am not planning to see them, just overly excited to be done with checking news on if/when I can cross the border.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,766
    lmckenney24 said:
    PJNB said:
    Certainly feels like an arena tour this October-December has the potential in happening doesn't it? 
    The potential is there. Whether the band thinks so is another topic. Does anyone know what the NHL playoff arena capacity will be? If it's 100%, they could wait to see how that plays out, then make a decision.

    Could do a small run of sheds or stadiums Oct - Nov, especially in the south due to weather if arena shows are a no go for them.
    In Canada, it’s 0%.  First Toronto-Montreal series in 42 years and nobody will be there to see it.  Good job, powers that be.
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  • Johnny Abruzzo
    Johnny Abruzzo Philly Posts: 12,357
    lmckenney24 said:
    PJNB said:
    Certainly feels like an arena tour this October-December has the potential in happening doesn't it? 
    The potential is there. Whether the band thinks so is another topic. Does anyone know what the NHL playoff arena capacity will be? If it's 100%, they could wait to see how that plays out, then make a decision.

    Could do a small run of sheds or stadiums Oct - Nov, especially in the south due to weather if arena shows are a no go for them.
    76ers are expected to have full crowds by June 12 for playoff games (assuming we manage to remain in the playoffs). Starting out at 10,000 fans - about half capacity.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    RatherStarved said:
    lmckenney24 said:
    PJNB said:
    Certainly feels like an arena tour this October-December has the potential in happening doesn't it? 
    The potential is there. Whether the band thinks so is another topic. Does anyone know what the NHL playoff arena capacity will be? If it's 100%, they could wait to see how that plays out, then make a decision.

    Could do a small run of sheds or stadiums Oct - Nov, especially in the south due to weather if arena shows are a no go for them.
    In Canada, it’s 0%.  First Toronto-Montreal series in 42 years and nobody will be there to see it.  Good job, powers that be.
    We would be looking at the fall start up of the 2021-22 season though as a sign. March 11th (which was a long time ago it feels with the progress we have made) there was an article out that the NHL expected to be on time and back to fully normal for that season.  Also Canada is on track to have everyone double vaxxed by September still. I think arenas can happen this year. Will they? Who knows but it would be nice to get a wink that all they are looking to do is these two fests or a couple of more. 


    https://www.nhl.com/news/commissioner-gary-bettman-on-next-nhl-season/c-322386162

  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,597
    PJNB said:
    Certainly feels like an arena tour this October-December has the potential in happening doesn't it? 
    Maybe, but I would be surprised to see that happen. 
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  • PeterED
    PeterED Posts: 375
    PJNB said:
    RatherStarved said:
    lmckenney24 said:
    PJNB said:
    Certainly feels like an arena tour this October-December has the potential in happening doesn't it? 
    The potential is there. Whether the band thinks so is another topic. Does anyone know what the NHL playoff arena capacity will be? If it's 100%, they could wait to see how that plays out, then make a decision.

    Could do a small run of sheds or stadiums Oct - Nov, especially in the south due to weather if arena shows are a no go for them.
    In Canada, it’s 0%.  First Toronto-Montreal series in 42 years and nobody will be there to see it.  Good job, powers that be.
    We would be looking at the fall start up of the 2021-22 season though as a sign. March 11th (which was a long time ago it feels with the progress we have made) there was an article out that the NHL expected to be on time and back to fully normal for that season.  Also Canada is on track to have everyone double vaxxed by September still. I think arenas can happen this year. Will they? Who knows but it would be nice to get a wink that all they are looking to do is these two fests or a couple of more. 


    https://www.nhl.com/news/commissioner-gary-bettman-on-next-nhl-season/c-322386162

    Heya.

    I live in Ontario. No way is this province going to have everybody double-vaxxed by Sept. I had my first dose 3 weeks ago and my #2 is in early August. There are loads of people who want one who are still waiting for dose #1. 

    High schools were just directed (last week) to plan the 21-22 school year with reduced cohorts for kids and only 2 classes a day.

    It’s hard to imagine a packed Scotia Bank Arena in October.

    I really hope in October I look really foolish having made this post.
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    PeterED said:
    PJNB said:
    RatherStarved said:
    lmckenney24 said:
    PJNB said:
    Certainly feels like an arena tour this October-December has the potential in happening doesn't it? 
    The potential is there. Whether the band thinks so is another topic. Does anyone know what the NHL playoff arena capacity will be? If it's 100%, they could wait to see how that plays out, then make a decision.

    Could do a small run of sheds or stadiums Oct - Nov, especially in the south due to weather if arena shows are a no go for them.
    In Canada, it’s 0%.  First Toronto-Montreal series in 42 years and nobody will be there to see it.  Good job, powers that be.
    We would be looking at the fall start up of the 2021-22 season though as a sign. March 11th (which was a long time ago it feels with the progress we have made) there was an article out that the NHL expected to be on time and back to fully normal for that season.  Also Canada is on track to have everyone double vaxxed by September still. I think arenas can happen this year. Will they? Who knows but it would be nice to get a wink that all they are looking to do is these two fests or a couple of more. 


    https://www.nhl.com/news/commissioner-gary-bettman-on-next-nhl-season/c-322386162

    Heya.

    I live in Ontario. No way is this province going to have everybody double-vaxxed by Sept. I had my first dose 3 weeks ago and my #2 is in early August. There are loads of people who want one who are still waiting for dose #1. 

    High schools were just directed (last week) to plan the 21-22 school year with reduced cohorts for kids and only 2 classes a day.

    It’s hard to imagine a packed Scotia Bank Arena in October.

    I really hope in October I look really foolish having made this post.
    I get it for sure with how it feels right now but with the US drying up on people that want the vaccine and us ramping up the number vaccinated daily I think we will get there by the end of September. Things change daily but as of right now that is the path forward. 

    https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/pm-says-canada-will-have-enough-covid-19-vaccines-for-a-one-dose-summer-1.5423013
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    Currently Ontario is vaccinating 1%  a day of adults 18 and over and sitting north of 50% with at least one shot.  It is very possible to have embody fully vaccinated by early September.  
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    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
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    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
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  • CO278952
    CO278952 Orlando, FL Posts: 1,451
    PJNB said:
    Certainly feels like an arena tour this October-December has the potential in happening doesn't it? 
    With no doubt. It’s certainly in the “where there’s a will there’s a way” category.  
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,357
    Ohana Sunday completely sold out. I guess that's one way to prevent me from making an impulse purchase.
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  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,459
    HailHailVitalogy said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    Jim Tressel said:
    Impossible. I was told they wouldn’t play this year by people here. PJ is too responsible for that. 
    Just an opinion dude. Have fun at your shows, even if it’s just Ed! 😀
    My guy, please stop being so arrogantly pessimistic on all of your posts. I usually never do this, but damn man...nothing worse than a troll.
    Yeah, been around too long to be a troll. If you want to talk to me directly, PM me. I could share something that might help you understand what influences my opinions. 
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,766
    I would like to add that I also think 2 Feign Reluctance is not a troll.  He has been consistent in his position about the safety and wisdom of shows right now, which is a very fair perspective.  I have never considered any of his comments to be arrogant at all.  Just my opinion.  
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    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

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  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    Everyone is dealing with this transitional time in their own way. Some are understandably adopting a cautious and skeptical outlook, others going for optimism and hope, most people probably finding somewhere in the middle. There’s no right way to be, except that we all have to give each other space & understanding to process what’s happened and what is happening. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,953

    Good article on Danny Clinch and his photography in today’s local paper.  He plays it close to the vest on the festival but his comments are encouraging…



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