2020 Fall North American rumour thread

demetrios

CO278952 said:

OceansJenny said:

So people who are vaccinated will demask, and people unvaccinated who hate masks will demask. How will you know the difference walking down the street.

The ones that aren’t vaccinated may get sick. The ones that are vaccinated won’t. 

Not true.

JE224127

Just read where a Yankees player had COVID, got fully vaccinated and just tested positive again today.

RatherStarved

demetrios said:

CO278952 said:

OceansJenny said:

So people who are vaccinated will demask, and people unvaccinated who hate masks will demask. How will you know the difference walking down the street.

The ones that aren’t vaccinated may get sick. The ones that are vaccinated won’t. 

Not true.

You could also get struck by lightning.  

JE224127

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/31439470/new-york-yankees-ss-gleyber-torres-miss-second-straight-game-sources-say

ComeToTX

No vaccine is 100% effective. That’s not new. 

JE224127

Agree 100%, wasn’t trying to say otherwise. There is no silver bullet here nor will there ever be. We just have to do our best and move on.

Mike D88

ComeToTX said:

No vaccine is 100% effective. That’s not new. 

Yep. The mRNA vaccines are also incredibly effective compared to typical vaccines.

I don't like all the defeatism around easing restrictions and returning to normal for vaccinated people. This is the off ramp. This has to work. And if this isn't good enough, then nothing ever will be and we're all fucked.

FURTHERMORE: Those in the US have been extremely fortunate and privileged to have ample access to the vaccine. Don't squander this. We need as many people as possible to get it, and it does not help at all to tell them that all they have to look forward to post-vaccination is more of the same restrictions.

PJNB

DM282158 said:

We’ve all had our own experience with this over the last 14 months and counting. Lost jobs, businesses on the brink, lost loved ones, sickness. And all can certainly lead to fear, anxiety, frustration, anger, and deep depression. One of the few things I’ve learned is that I’m never going to change anyone’s mind. And I cant live in anyone else’s shoes. I don’t post on here often. And I literally don’t know any of you. But we all love this band. And no matter how we’ve dealt with this pandemic; how it’s affected us; what we think of the job the CDC and governments are doing; and who we voted for.... we all just want the same damn things. And in this circle - to enjoy and see our favorite band again and enjoy some beverages together. No matter of differences we may have regarding the above. I’ve never met ya’ll but feel a connection through being excited in these threads for shows, new music, etc. That’s what counts. Big cheers and turn it to 11. Can’t  wait for the next one and to enjoy new conversations with new people before rocking the F out. 

Well said. 

D-Rod

DM282158 said:

We’ve all had our own experience with this over the last 14 months and counting. Lost jobs, businesses on the brink, lost loved ones, sickness. And all can certainly lead to fear, anxiety, frustration, anger, and deep depression. One of the few things I’ve learned is that I’m never going to change anyone’s mind. And I cant live in anyone else’s shoes. I don’t post on here often. And I literally don’t know any of you. But we all love this band. And no matter how we’ve dealt with this pandemic; how it’s affected us; what we think of the job the CDC and governments are doing; and who we voted for.... we all just want the same damn things. And in this circle - to enjoy and see our favorite band again and enjoy some beverages together. No matter of differences we may have regarding the above. I’ve never met ya’ll but feel a connection through being excited in these threads for shows, new music, etc. That’s what counts. Big cheers and turn it to 11. Can’t  wait for the next one and to enjoy new conversations with new people before rocking the F out. 

 Four things I want to say

1) well said
2) you should post more often 
3) you should formally meet us, we’re not as bad as we sound
4) rumour has it that Pearl Jam is going to play Toronto in 2022.......or 2021 

OceansJenny

We need to eradicate covid. Having it dance around the unvaccinated population will just help it mutate. Reaching heard immunity is the best way to do that. As is with every other disease/vaccine.

I digress. Rumor has it Ed may or may not bring the cowbell to SHN.  

Sidebar: Can’t Deny Me would be amusing if they had concerts where they literally denied the unvaxed.

CO278952

demetrios said:

CO278952 said:

OceansJenny said:

So people who are vaccinated will demask, and people unvaccinated who hate masks will demask. How will you know the difference walking down the street.

The ones that aren’t vaccinated may get sick. The ones that are vaccinated won’t. 

Not true.

Anyone is welcome to where a mask forever 

RatherStarved

OceansJenny said:

We need to eradicate covid. Having it dance around the unvaccinated population will just help it mutate. Reaching heard immunity is the best way to do that. As is with every other disease/vaccine.

I digress. Rumor has it Ed may or may not bring the cowbell to SHN.  

Sidebar: Can’t Deny Me would be amusing if they had concerts where they literally denied the unvaxed.

The cowbell comment immediately after the covid statement is priceless.

OceansJenny

RatherStarved said:

OceansJenny said:

We need to eradicate covid. Having it dance around the unvaccinated population will just help it mutate. Reaching heard immunity is the best way to do that. As is with every other disease/vaccine.

I digress. Rumor has it Ed may or may not bring the cowbell to SHN.  

Sidebar: Can’t Deny Me would be amusing if they had concerts where they literally denied the unvaxed.

The cowbell comment immediately after the covid statement is priceless.

😂 had to lighten the mood.

ComeToTX

Covid 19 will not be eradicated in our lifetimes.  That was never the goal.

Weston1283

ComeToTX said:

Covid 19 will not be eradicated in our lifetimes.  That was never the goal.

This ^

Johnny Abruzzo

Of the 8 vaccinated Yankees who tested positive for COVID-19, only 1 had any symptoms and those were mild. Perfect demonstration of the power of the vaccines.

jimjam1982

Lollapalooza confirmed for 2021 end of July - Aug 1.  Announcement on lineup within a week.  PJ? A festival run until fall arena shows? 

RoleModelsinBlood31

We just gotta do it until we flatten the curve.

wait, that was a while ago wasn’t it.

I had to police 10 people at work today.  Just put a fuckin mask on or go outside and call your order in and we’ll bring it to your ass. It’s not that hard and I get it, I wear one 60+ hours a week, it blows.  

I don’t wear one outside and never have and you better believe next week I’m removing our indoor rules, vaxxed or not, I don’t care.  If you’re balsy enough to not wear one and you haven’t been vaxxed, sucks to be you, you may lose, but you crazy fucks are pissing me off and I don’t want to fight anymore with customers.

mu job isn’t to police people or to put my staff in that role.  Next week it’s “masks are preferred and appreciated, but optional.”

ddeschler

Lollapalooza confirmed for 2021 end of July - Aug 1.  Announcement on lineup within a week. 

Have any tickets been sold for this yet?  I went to the website, and it just asks for your email address to sign-up for ticket updates.

Lost In Ohio

Here's my take:

Masks definitely help curb the spread. If you're having sex with someone you don't know, it's definitely wise to use a condom. Why anyone would have promiscuous unprotected sex is anyone's guess.

Yet with COVID, it seems to be a different story. "Who cares if you get sick and pass it around? It may not put you in the hospital!"

Now imagine if HIV could spread just because you're standing beside an infected person while waiting to cross the street.

But half the country belittles people for protecting their own lives and the lives of the community as a whole. This...makes no sense.

Masks were one type of condom in the analogy. Now we have a condom that is 95% effective. Just like how condoms break, no vaccine is 100% effective. But even the dumbest people know that 95 is higher than zero.

Isn't part of Pearl Jam's mantra to take care of each other?

If you're in a crowded group of people, it's definitely wise to wear a mask, especially indoors. Outside, walking the dog is one thing. At a crowded bar is another story.

If you're unvaccinated (including kids), for any reason, once the restrictions roll back, infection rates will rise. The best protection? Get the vaccine.

Check this out... 2-3 years in the future, you get sick with a seasonal flu, wear a mask. Stay home. Prevent it spreading. One of the reasons why the seasonal flu was down so much this past winter was due to masking and working from home. Before COVID, people would go to work sick, they'd touch everything in sight and guess what? Their co-worker's kid would end up passing it to everyone at school.

Frankly, it's pathetic that so many employers have terrible sick policies. Nobody should ever have to go to work with a transmissible disease.