The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,473
    Jason P said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    Jason P said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:

    that has to be photoshopped, right?
    no, but it looks much worse than the actual video. 

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=8&v=Or1WvZ2CxXo&feature=emb_logo
    Well, at least it was his wife.  I imagine she was like "WTF are you doing!" as soon as they got back to the malarkey bus.
    the malarkey bus. LMAO
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,082
    i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
    Better than Warren's embarrassing policies and Trumps embarrassing crimes.  Somehow Joe's 50 years of public service doesn't bother me quite as much.
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    dankind said:
    OnWis97 said:
    dankind said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Kamala Harris just dropped out.....

    Kamala Harris Drops Out Of Presidential Race https://n.pr/2P7koyR
    Guess I can sit out the primary as well as the general this year. 
    This illustrates why I envy the right.  They're united (they even had an event).  Nobody says "I'll only vote for one candidate in the general otherwise I am sitting out." They all just suck it up and vote for Trump.
    I know, right? Sucks how some of us are capable of independent thought.
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    Independent thought not necessarily mean coherent 
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    CM189191 said:
    dankind said:
    OnWis97 said:
    dankind said:
    Bentleyspop said:
    Kamala Harris just dropped out.....

    Kamala Harris Drops Out Of Presidential Race https://n.pr/2P7koyR
    Guess I can sit out the primary as well as the general this year. 
    This illustrates why I envy the right.  They're united (they even had an event).  Nobody says "I'll only vote for one candidate in the general otherwise I am sitting out." They all just suck it up and vote for Trump.
    I know, right? Sucks how some of us are capable of independent thought.
    "I reject reality and substitute my own!"

    Independent thought not necessarily mean coherent 
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  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,082
    mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    How often does a president have to debate?  How often does he riff?  Not very often.  His/her decisions are informed by a team of advisers that deliberate before making a decision.  Speeches are written in advance.  While I wish he didn't gaffe, he has done so his entire career, even when he was a young man.  It's so irrelevant in the grand scheme of a president's duties.  
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,836
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
    Better than Warren's embarrassing policies and Trumps embarrassing crimes.  Somehow Joe's 50 years of public service doesn't bother me quite as much.
    Joe is a creep. he’s not a creep on trump level...but he ain’t far behind. 
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I really, really take issue with ageist attitudes, and I have always been a big fan . . . but for real, even I am beginning to think Biden is no longer working with a full deck. It's embarrassing to watch, even when he's not in the middle of a gaffe. Listening to him talk, I sense that he's really not in touch with the current world. I just can't support him in the primary.

    I'm still hoping Amy Klobuchar breaks out of the pack soon. 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
    Better than Warren's embarrassing policies and Trumps embarrassing crimes.  Somehow Joe's 50 years of public service doesn't bother me quite as much.
    Joe is a creep. he’s not a creep on trump level...but he ain’t far behind. 
    Don't put your hangups on him.  
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,879
    cincybearcat said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    i thought it was the no malarkey bus?

    either way, joe needs to go. he is a fucking gaffe machine. almost as embarrassing as w bush and trump.
    Better than Warren's embarrassing policies and Trumps embarrassing crimes.  Somehow Joe's 50 years of public service doesn't bother me quite as much.
    Joe is a creep. he’s not a creep on trump level...but he ain’t far behind. 


    Seriously? 

    Joe ever walk into a locker room full of naked teenagers? 

    Joe ever brag about grabbing and kissing without consent? 

    Joe ever cheat on his wife with a porn star? 
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,662
    edited December 2019
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    How often does a president have to debate?  How often does he riff?  Not very often.  His/her decisions are informed by a team of advisers that deliberate before making a decision.  Speeches are written in advance.  While I wish he didn't gaffe, he has done so his entire career, even when he was a young man.  It's so irrelevant in the grand scheme of a president's duties.  
    I have sometimes half jokingly/ half seriously proposed the idea that we don't need a president but rather someone to represent us like a king or queen or "Country's Person of Importance".  I say that because in so many cases, a president does exactly what you are basically saying here:  they read a speech someone else wrote, make decisions based on what advisors say they should do, and cave in to pressure from others with a lot of money and power.  If that is the case, what we really need is someone cool and suave to represent us.  Maybe someone cool, smart and sophisticated like Denzel Washington or Ethan Hawke.  Don't give them any real power (since the president doesn't really have all that much autonomous power anyway), just let them represent us in a way we can be proud of.

    But since no one on the face of the planet has taken my suggestion and run with it, how about we elect a president who isn't a dick, doesn't come off like a buffoon, isn't a bigot or sexist pig, who is smart, diplomatic, well spoken, compassionate, resourceful, and at least decent looking.  Is there not one person in politics at least a little bit that anymore?  I fear not.


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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,412
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    How often does a president have to debate?  How often does he riff?  Not very often.  His/her decisions are informed by a team of advisers that deliberate before making a decision.  Speeches are written in advance.  While I wish he didn't gaffe, he has done so his entire career, even when he was a young man.  It's so irrelevant in the grand scheme of a president's duties.  
    I have sometimes half jokingly/ half seriously proposed the idea that we don't need a president but rather someone to represent us like a king or queen or "Country's Person of Importance".  I say that because in so many cases, a president does exactly what you are basically saying here:  they read a speech someone else wrote, make decisions based on what advisors say they should do, and cave in to pressure from others with a lot of money and power.  If that is the case, what we really need is someone cool and suave to represent us.  Maybe someone cool, smart and sophisticated like Denzel Washington or Ethan Hawke.  Don't give them any real power (since the president doesn't really have all that much autonomous power anyway), just let them represent us in a way we can be proud of.

    But since no one on the face of the planet has taken my suggestion and run with it, how about we elect a president who isn't a dick, doesn't come off like a buffoon, isn't a bigot or sexist pig, who is smart, diplomatic, well spoken, compassionate, resourceful, and at least decent looking.  Is there not one person in politics at least a little bit that anymore?  I fear not.


    we JUST had that person Brian......
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    Next president.


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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    mickeyrat said:
    brianlux said:
    mrussel1 said:
    gimmesometruth27 said:
    mrussel1 i disagree. we are a laughingstock on the world stage right now. we do not need biden going in there and continuing the clown show. i love fighting joe, but he is not the guy to follow trump in my opinion. it will just be the same thing, gaffe after gaffe. maybe not as often as dumbass trump, but joe will make a lot of mistakes, and we can't have that.
    How often does a president have to debate?  How often does he riff?  Not very often.  His/her decisions are informed by a team of advisers that deliberate before making a decision.  Speeches are written in advance.  While I wish he didn't gaffe, he has done so his entire career, even when he was a young man.  It's so irrelevant in the grand scheme of a president's duties.  
    I have sometimes half jokingly/ half seriously proposed the idea that we don't need a president but rather someone to represent us like a king or queen or "Country's Person of Importance".  I say that because in so many cases, a president does exactly what you are basically saying here:  they read a speech someone else wrote, make decisions based on what advisors say they should do, and cave in to pressure from others with a lot of money and power.  If that is the case, what we really need is someone cool and suave to represent us.  Maybe someone cool, smart and sophisticated like Denzel Washington or Ethan Hawke.  Don't give them any real power (since the president doesn't really have all that much autonomous power anyway), just let them represent us in a way we can be proud of.

    But since no one on the face of the planet has taken my suggestion and run with it, how about we elect a president who isn't a dick, doesn't come off like a buffoon, isn't a bigot or sexist pig, who is smart, diplomatic, well spoken, compassionate, resourceful, and at least decent looking.  Is there not one person in politics at least a little bit that anymore?  I fear not.


    we JUST had that person Brian......
    Yeah, I was thinking the same thing. 3 years seems so long ago.
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  • Ledbetterman10
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    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Next president.


    I can't believe this is the most electable democrat. 
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Next president.


    This is getting scary. That is a :31 clip that is a goldmine for the other side. I really prefer if the Democrats refrain from giving them any ammo at all.
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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    darwinstheory said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Next president.


    This is getting scary. That is a :31 clip that is a goldmine for the other side. I really prefer if the Democrats refrain from giving them any ammo at all.
    That's an old clip, but I'm sure there are many more.

    Biden is not the guy to beat Trump like a drum.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    dignin said:
    darwinstheory said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Next president.


    This is getting scary. That is a :31 clip that is a goldmine for the other side. I really prefer if the Democrats refrain from giving them any ammo at all.
    That's an old clip, but I'm sure there are many more.

    Biden is not the guy to beat Trump like a drum.
    Then find that person.  It ain't Warren.  I hope it's Pete, but I fear he's too nice.  I want to see him get amped.  
  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    Next president.


    Lol creepy Joe...just plain creepy
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