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I post things on here for various reasons. Sometimes just because they make for a funny visual. Like e.g. someone campaigning for Bloomberg for the cash but really is voting for Bernie.Halifax2TheMax said:
He’s old, with age comes wisdom, and he was mayor of Burlington, VT.Spiritual_Chaos said:
If you tell me the the best thing about Bernie (And being honest), then I might just let you in on that secret.Halifax2TheMax said:
So, if you don’t use Twitter, how do you come across so much social media twitter posts and why do you share them? Do you trust them as reliable and viable, as coming from an actual twitter or are you just posting propaganda to spread the bern?Spiritual_Chaos said:
I don't use twitter. Or twitturdHalifax2TheMax said:
You still didn’t answer the first question posed, now did you? Seems like child like avoidance to me. Putin on the ritz paying you in cookies?Spiritual_Chaos said:
I don't know what faceturd is. Are you sure it is a real site? Sounds like a childish wordplay.Halifax2TheMax said:
Do you really follow Kaylah Paige and Cenk is a Union Buster on Twitter? Seriously? Or did you find these on your faceturd feed and thought you’d share because it’s illustrative of the groundswell of the bern? They’re about as believable as #queersagainstpete being a “political movement.” I’d digress into my thoughts about the bern, Cuba and burning 25 electoral votes in Florida but it’d be a waste of my time and effort.Spiritual_Chaos said:"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Why can't 60 minutes keep their grade consistent?
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Last point: I get the sense that most of us posting in here are white. This story has absolutely nothing to do with what we make of his comments one way or the other.0
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Great. There's more audio of Bloomberg. saying warren is scary and Romney would be a better president than obama.
Maybe it's time to throw in the towel and donate money to trump.0 -
He was a Republican and independent. I wouldn't expect much different.Lerxst1992 said:Great. There's more audio of Bloomberg. saying warren is scary and Romney would be a better president than obama.
Maybe it's time to throw in the towel and donate money to trump.0 -
At least he's not positive about giving citizens the ability to read and write!Lerxst1992 said:Great. There's more audio of Bloomberg. saying warren is scary and Romney would be a better president than obama.
Maybe it's time to throw in the towel and donate money to trump."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.
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What question did he answer here? What is the context?pjl44 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Click the linkSpiritual_Chaos said:
What question did he answer here? What is the context?pjl44 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.0 -
pjl44 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.
Hardly praise and decades old. OK.
"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
Don't get where the praise is? Saying the US shouldn't fuck with other countries and the US fucking up when trying to, seems rather sober.pjl44 said:
Click the linkSpiritual_Chaos said:
What question did he answer here? What is the context?pjl44 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.What that was about was saying that the United States was wrong for trying to invade Cuba. That the United States was wrong trying to support people to overthrow the Nicaraguan government. That the United States was wrong trying to overthrow in 1954 the government, the democratically elected government of Guatemala. Throughout the history of our relationship with Latin America, we've operated under the so-called Monroe Doctrine. And that said that the United States had the right to do anything that they wanted to do in Latin America. So I actually went to Nicaragua, and I very strongly opposed the Reagan administration's effort to overthrow that government.
He added that the US should be "working with governments around the world" and not "get involved in regime change." Sanders also claimed that US intervention in Latin America stoked anti-US sentiment there.But he shouldn't touch the subject in a primary. Like I have mentioned. Stress that you hate fidel castro, or say nothing at all.
Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
For the third time, this is not about what you and I think about what he said. My point is that his comments will give him trouble with Florida voters and create problems for other Democrats running in that state. That's the only thing I've posted about because it's the only aspect of this story I find interesting.brianlux said:pjl44 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.
Hardly praise and decades old. OK.
As a side note, I posted exactly what you asked for and it's obvious you asked just so you could bicker more. You have no interest in listening to what I'm trying to say. Google it yourself next time.0 -
See my post to Brian. It has nothing to do with how you or I are interpreting this. Find a Cuban American living in Florida and explain to them that "ackshually this is logical" if you'd like.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Don't get where the praise is? Saying the US shouldn't fuck with other countries and the US fucking up when trying to, seems rather sober.pjl44 said:
Click the linkSpiritual_Chaos said:
What question did he answer here? What is the context?pjl44 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.What that was about was saying that the United States was wrong for trying to invade Cuba. That the United States was wrong trying to support people to overthrow the Nicaraguan government. That the United States was wrong trying to overthrow in 1954 the government, the democratically elected government of Guatemala. Throughout the history of our relationship with Latin America, we've operated under the so-called Monroe Doctrine. And that said that the United States had the right to do anything that they wanted to do in Latin America. So I actually went to Nicaragua, and I very strongly opposed the Reagan administration's effort to overthrow that government.
He added that the US should be "working with governments around the world" and not "get involved in regime change." Sanders also claimed that US intervention in Latin America stoked anti-US sentiment there.0 -
Yes, I understand your argument. But on the bright side, I do think Florida with those republican-cubans and old white people won't be in play anyway (or..?)pjl44 said:
See my post to Brian. It has nothing to do with how you or I are interpreting this. Find a Cuban American living in Florida and explain to them that "ackshually this is logical" if you'd like.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Don't get where the praise is? Saying the US shouldn't fuck with other countries and the US fucking up when trying to, seems rather sober.pjl44 said:
Click the linkSpiritual_Chaos said:
What question did he answer here? What is the context?pjl44 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.What that was about was saying that the United States was wrong for trying to invade Cuba. That the United States was wrong trying to support people to overthrow the Nicaraguan government. That the United States was wrong trying to overthrow in 1954 the government, the democratically elected government of Guatemala. Throughout the history of our relationship with Latin America, we've operated under the so-called Monroe Doctrine. And that said that the United States had the right to do anything that they wanted to do in Latin America. So I actually went to Nicaragua, and I very strongly opposed the Reagan administration's effort to overthrow that government.
He added that the US should be "working with governments around the world" and not "get involved in regime change." Sanders also claimed that US intervention in Latin America stoked anti-US sentiment there.
I added this to my post after you quoted: But he shouldn't touch the subject in a primary. Like I have mentioned (before): Stress that you hate fidel castro, or say nothing at all (about the man).Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Ronald Reagan — 'If you're explaining, you're losing.'
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pjl44 said:
For the third time, this is not about what you and I think about what he said. My point is that his comments will give him trouble with Florida voters and create problems for other Democrats running in that state. That's the only thing I've posted about because it's the only aspect of this story I find interesting.brianlux said:pjl44 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.
Hardly praise and decades old. OK.
As a side note, I posted exactly what you asked for and it's obvious you asked just so you could bicker more. You have no interest in listening to what I'm trying to say. Google it yourself next time.For the first time, What??? I didn't say what I think about this. Where did you come up with that?And "bickering"? WTF? Where was I "bickering"? Get a grip.Post edited by brianlux on"It's a sad and beautiful world"-Roberto Benigni0 -
It's tough because Florida is typically a swing state. Having to write it off is not ideal. Doesn't make things impossible, but tough. Your last point is right, but there's a reason he doesn't.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Yes, I understand your argument. But on the bright side, I do think Florida with those republican-cubans and old white people won't be in play anyway (or..?)pjl44 said:
See my post to Brian. It has nothing to do with how you or I are interpreting this. Find a Cuban American living in Florida and explain to them that "ackshually this is logical" if you'd like.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Don't get where the praise is? Saying the US shouldn't fuck with other countries and the US fucking up when trying to, seems rather sober.pjl44 said:
Click the linkSpiritual_Chaos said:
What question did he answer here? What is the context?pjl44 said:
https://www.businessinsider.com/bernie-sanders-fidel-castro-1985-video-debate-2016-3brianlux said:pjl44 said:I think people are missing the point on the Sanders story.
1. It's very much in character for him to praise Castro. It's his ideology and not the first time. In a vacuum he is certainly free to do that.
2. There are many Cuban (or Venezuelan) immigrants and children of who will have a VERY negative reaction to an American politician praising Castro (or Chavez) for any reason. Many live in Florida.
3. These House *Democrats* from Florida and elsewhere came out swiftly with strongly worded rebukes because they know this is a HUGE issue for a large portion of their constituents. They themselves have seats to defend in November.
This is not a manufactured issue. If you know or run into a Cuban-American, ask them about Castro. I had 3 Cuban coworkers at my last job. Best of luck in explaining to them how they should apply some nuance and not blow a comment out of proportion. I would be very interested to hear how that goes.
Please back this up with some verifiable statements made by Sanders that praise Castro. Thanks.What that was about was saying that the United States was wrong for trying to invade Cuba. That the United States was wrong trying to support people to overthrow the Nicaraguan government. That the United States was wrong trying to overthrow in 1954 the government, the democratically elected government of Guatemala. Throughout the history of our relationship with Latin America, we've operated under the so-called Monroe Doctrine. And that said that the United States had the right to do anything that they wanted to do in Latin America. So I actually went to Nicaragua, and I very strongly opposed the Reagan administration's effort to overthrow that government.
He added that the US should be "working with governments around the world" and not "get involved in regime change." Sanders also claimed that US intervention in Latin America stoked anti-US sentiment there.
I added this to my post after you quoted: But he shouldn't touch the subject in a primary. Like I have mentioned. Stress that you hate fidel castro, or say nothing at all.0 -
Can we all just agree that Biden and Warren will steal and split Bernies thunder post tonights debate?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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