The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,521
    edited February 2020
    Man, good luck to anyone who thinks they can confidently predict how any of these candidates would do in November 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    I think that’s a really bad take.

    You think Pete is just an opportunist?
    Phony Pete


    as my former boss used to say

    'not stolen, borrowed with pride'
    Some people steal.

    https://youtu.be/o9_KGQPGNoQ

    https://youtu.be/fmuAB5MqP0Y

    In his 1988 presidential bid, Joe Biden, who is now a Democratic presidential candidate for 2020, plagiarized portions of speeches made by former President John F. Kennedy, Sen. Robert F. Kennedy (D-N.Y.) and British Labour Party leader Neil Kinnock. It effectively led to him dropping out of the race.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    edited February 2020
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


    The question was, what is the difference between what you promise and what Trump promised. And he was answering that (in a politican's way. But he was answering it)

    Him pulling out the sheet - what to get ahead of the question he knew was coming from Cuomo about payment.
    No he pulled it out in response to the question from the audience. The question is you haven’t said how you will pay, so, how will you pay. 
    Yes you are correct. The "I thought that question might show up" was to reference the guys question, I thought I heard difference tense. 

    The ba-ba-bap is still about Cuomo interrupting. 



     
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    Current system 50 trillion dollar. 

    Bernies Medicare system 30 trillion dollar

    20 trillion over for Pearl Jam merch

    https://youtu.be/FxBf3HB0ddQ

    Sanders Campaign Senior Adviser: Medicare For All Saves “Substantial” Money

    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    edited February 2020
    The "We don't need to release anything. Bernie is healthy, have you seen how how many rallies he does?! Have you seen him on the trail?!" thing is the worst shit I have ever heard.

    That reeks of Trumps behavior in 2016.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,821
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


    The question was, what is the difference between what you promise and what Trump promised. And he was answering that (in a politican's way. But he was answering it)

    Him pulling out the sheet - what to get ahead of the question he knew was coming from Cuomo about payment.
    No he pulled it out in response to the question from the audience. The question is you haven’t said how you will pay, so, how will you pay. 
    Yes you are correct. The "I thought that question might show up" was to reference the guys question, I thought I heard difference tense. 

    The ba-ba-bap is still about Cuomo interrupting. 



     
    Yes it was in reply to cuomo who was trying to say that the estimates for cost were still 2X more than his sheet said he’d raise to pay. He gave cuomo the sheet and then didn’t want him to talk about it.  I thought that was weird. As was the old man bababababap. Weird moment where he looked prepared to answer the question, I thought he was going to own the moment. He didn’t 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


    The question was, what is the difference between what you promise and what Trump promised. And he was answering that (in a politican's way. But he was answering it)

    Him pulling out the sheet - what to get ahead of the question he knew was coming from Cuomo about payment.
    No he pulled it out in response to the question from the audience. The question is you haven’t said how you will pay, so, how will you pay. 
    Yes you are correct. The "I thought that question might show up" was to reference the guys question, I thought I heard difference tense. 

    The ba-ba-bap is still about Cuomo interrupting. 



     
    Yes it was in reply to cuomo who was trying to say that the estimates for cost were still 2X more than his sheet said he’d raise to pay. He gave cuomo the sheet and then didn’t want him to talk about it.  I thought that was weird. As was the old man bababababap. Weird moment where he looked prepared to answer the question, I thought he was going to own the moment. He didn’t 
    But he did go into how to pay for it? What did you feel was left out? Him throwing out an excel document at a towm hall?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    edited February 2020



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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450
    the problem with bernie's castro comments is you simply cannot, in today's reactive culture, say anything good about anyone bad because that turns into you thinking that person, who was bad, was all good, and you get destroyed for it. people can't take facts. it's all emotion and outrage. and it's intellectually destroying all discourse. 

    if only the MSM would take trumpers to task like they are doing to the democratic candidates, we might have a somewhat sane system right now. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    The Juggler said:

    Praising Fidel Castro. 



    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • CM189191
    CM189191 Posts: 6,927
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Horse.
    Shoe.

    Bloomberg's & Bernie's only function in this race is to alienate moderate voters.  And to keep pushing 'the both sides are bad' narrative.  This only benefits the GOP.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,450
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    The Juggler said:

    Praising Fidel Castro. 



    exactly. 
    Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall




  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,660
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the problem with bernie's castro comments is you simply cannot, in today's reactive culture, say anything good about anyone bad because that turns into you thinking that person, who was bad, was all good, and you get destroyed for it. people can't take facts. it's all emotion and outrage. and it's intellectually destroying all discourse. 

    if only the MSM would take trumpers to task like they are doing to the democratic candidates, we might have a somewhat sane system right now. 

    I totally agree.  Bernie's statement was misunderstood and twisted by the even more twisted media that exists today.  What a mess!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 44,340
    edited February 2020
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the problem with bernie's castro comments is you simply cannot, in today's reactive culture, say anything good about anyone bad because that turns into you thinking that person, who was bad, was all good, and you get destroyed for it. people can't take facts. it's all emotion and outrage. and it's intellectually destroying all discourse. 

    if only the MSM would take trumpers to task like they are doing to the democratic candidates, we might have a somewhat sane system right now. 
    this reminds me, John Oliver had a great bit about hitler the other night. I dont want to butcher it , so please do look it up. Whole show was great, India was highlighted....
    edit. heres an AV CLUB article section with the piece....


    There’s Modi’s association with a “hard-core paramilitary group” whose leaders have praised Hitler’s whole “purity of blood” thing. As Oliver counters, there’s really only one good thing you can say about Hitler, and that’s that he killed Hitler. (There’s a graphic element to the joke that Oliver would like very much if no one used out of context.)
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    edited February 2020
    CM189191 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:



    Horse.
    Shoe.

    Bloomberg's & Bernie's only function in this race is to alienate moderate voters.  And to keep pushing 'the both sides are bad' narrative.  This only benefits the GOP.
    THANK

    GOD

    FOR

    BIDEN


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    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    edited February 2020
    Bloombergs full-force attack has begun:


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,821
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    cincybearcat said:
    Bernie tried to answer the question, said it would be on his website. Cuomo said it was still significantly less than the studies say will be needed. Bernie said “ba BA BA bap”.

    he also told the guy asking the question to “trust me” that I’m different than trump when it comes to paying for his stuff. Trust me and believe me sound very similar 
    He said Ba ba ba bap to be able to finish what he was saying when Cuomo was interrupting. 

    No need to Chris Mathews it.

    When did he say "trust me" ?
    Before he went into the sheet he pulled out where he still didn’t answer the question. I guess I’ll check out the website later to see if it satisfies me. 


    The question was, what is the difference between what you promise and what Trump promised. And he was answering that (in a politican's way. But he was answering it)

    Him pulling out the sheet - what to get ahead of the question he knew was coming from Cuomo about payment.
    No he pulled it out in response to the question from the audience. The question is you haven’t said how you will pay, so, how will you pay. 
    Yes you are correct. The "I thought that question might show up" was to reference the guys question, I thought I heard difference tense. 

    The ba-ba-bap is still about Cuomo interrupting. 



     
    Yes it was in reply to cuomo who was trying to say that the estimates for cost were still 2X more than his sheet said he’d raise to pay. He gave cuomo the sheet and then didn’t want him to talk about it.  I thought that was weird. As was the old man bababababap. Weird moment where he looked prepared to answer the question, I thought he was going to own the moment. He didn’t 
    But he did go into how to pay for it? What did you feel was left out? Him throwing out an excel document at a towm hall?
    He said a modest increase in taxing Wall Street speculation. That is a lot of nothing. I’ll check the website. 

    sknce he knew it was coming I wanted him to spout some specifics and numbers.
    hippiemom = goodness
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,821
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    The Juggler said:

    Praising Fidel Castro. 



    So Obama didn’t have opinions he just parroted Bernie??? 
    hippiemom = goodness
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,454
    cincybearcat said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    The Juggler said:

    Praising Fidel Castro. 



    So Obama didn’t have opinions he just parroted Bernie??? 
    The Original Phony Pete
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,821
    brianlux said:
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    the problem with bernie's castro comments is you simply cannot, in today's reactive culture, say anything good about anyone bad because that turns into you thinking that person, who was bad, was all good, and you get destroyed for it. people can't take facts. it's all emotion and outrage. and it's intellectually destroying all discourse. 

    if only the MSM would take trumpers to task like they are doing to the democratic candidates, we might have a somewhat sane system right now. 

    I totally agree.  Bernie's statement was misunderstood and twisted by the even more twisted media that exists today.  What a mess!
    I’m far more concerned with how he is paying for stuff than any of the other stuff. Though some of the other stuff concerns me some.
    hippiemom = goodness
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