The Democratic Presidential Debates
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Boy, do you have me figured out. And no, it was a berniebrosises that swiped right. When I insisted that they pay half for dinner, I never heard from them again.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Did some Bernie Bro swipe left on you on Tinder or something?Halifax2TheMax said:
Something which is totally lost on the Berniebrosises. The "free stuff" generation is going to be really disappointed.Lerxst1992 said:
And if bernie is the nominee many independents and moderate dems are not voting for himHalifax2TheMax said:
I'm totally on board with this and will support whomever the nominee is. Unfortunately, the Berniebrosises will not if Bernie isn't the man. And in Team Trump Treason fashion, they prefer the chaos of what another 4 years of Team Trump Treason does to uniting behind the dem nominee as it opens the door a little more for their vision of utopia, even if they have to wait 4 more years for another chance and suffer irreparable harm in the meantime. What a bitter old man Bernie will be in his final days.The Juggler said:Folks,
Here's the thing...after yesterday's unsurprising news that Russia is at it again and Trump is covering it up, we all have to be on the same page. That's number one.
Number two...no matter who the nominee is, a moderate billionaire with a sexist past from a sexist time, a former Obama VP, or a socialist senator from Vermont who is closer to the NRA than most would like.....one thing is clear---WE ALL HAVE TO UNITE BEHIND WHOMEVER IS THE NOMINEE.
Donald Trump is an existential risk to our democracy. Defeating him is more important than literally ANY OTHER ISSUE in this campaign. I really hope the candidates in the next debate focus on that instead of tearing each other down. That's number three (Biden voice).
You know I am an independent. My views are moderate mostly. But I can tell with 100% certainty that I will back Bernie or Elizabeth, or the reincarnation of Hillary as a result of a brokered convention. I also pledge to volunteer my time to help whomever it is. I hope you all will do the same.
Quit the bickering. Focus on the most important thing that unites all of us------defeating this fucking Russian stooge in November. Literally the future of the country is dependent upon this. Anything else you care about policy-wise should be a distant second.
Dems are screwed either way
Might as well vote for trump
All you do in here is (try to) dunk on the fairness and the good of Bernie Sanders.
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Fucking Dutch.Halifax2TheMax said:
Boy, do you have me figured out. And no, it was a berniebrosises that swiped right. When I insisted that they pay half for dinner, I never heard from them again.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Did some Bernie Bro swipe left on you on Tinder or something?Halifax2TheMax said:
Something which is totally lost on the Berniebrosises. The "free stuff" generation is going to be really disappointed.Lerxst1992 said:
And if bernie is the nominee many independents and moderate dems are not voting for himHalifax2TheMax said:
I'm totally on board with this and will support whomever the nominee is. Unfortunately, the Berniebrosises will not if Bernie isn't the man. And in Team Trump Treason fashion, they prefer the chaos of what another 4 years of Team Trump Treason does to uniting behind the dem nominee as it opens the door a little more for their vision of utopia, even if they have to wait 4 more years for another chance and suffer irreparable harm in the meantime. What a bitter old man Bernie will be in his final days.The Juggler said:Folks,
Here's the thing...after yesterday's unsurprising news that Russia is at it again and Trump is covering it up, we all have to be on the same page. That's number one.
Number two...no matter who the nominee is, a moderate billionaire with a sexist past from a sexist time, a former Obama VP, or a socialist senator from Vermont who is closer to the NRA than most would like.....one thing is clear---WE ALL HAVE TO UNITE BEHIND WHOMEVER IS THE NOMINEE.
Donald Trump is an existential risk to our democracy. Defeating him is more important than literally ANY OTHER ISSUE in this campaign. I really hope the candidates in the next debate focus on that instead of tearing each other down. That's number three (Biden voice).
You know I am an independent. My views are moderate mostly. But I can tell with 100% certainty that I will back Bernie or Elizabeth, or the reincarnation of Hillary as a result of a brokered convention. I also pledge to volunteer my time to help whomever it is. I hope you all will do the same.
Quit the bickering. Focus on the most important thing that unites all of us------defeating this fucking Russian stooge in November. Literally the future of the country is dependent upon this. Anything else you care about policy-wise should be a distant second.
Dems are screwed either way
Might as well vote for trump
All you do in here is (try to) dunk on the fairness and the good of Bernie Sanders.0 -
Doesn't check out.Halifax2TheMax said:
Boy, do you have me figured out. And no, it was a berniebrosises that swiped right. When I insisted that they pay half for dinner, I never heard from them again.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Did some Bernie Bro swipe left on you on Tinder or something?Halifax2TheMax said:
Something which is totally lost on the Berniebrosises. The "free stuff" generation is going to be really disappointed.Lerxst1992 said:
And if bernie is the nominee many independents and moderate dems are not voting for himHalifax2TheMax said:
I'm totally on board with this and will support whomever the nominee is. Unfortunately, the Berniebrosises will not if Bernie isn't the man. And in Team Trump Treason fashion, they prefer the chaos of what another 4 years of Team Trump Treason does to uniting behind the dem nominee as it opens the door a little more for their vision of utopia, even if they have to wait 4 more years for another chance and suffer irreparable harm in the meantime. What a bitter old man Bernie will be in his final days.The Juggler said:Folks,
Here's the thing...after yesterday's unsurprising news that Russia is at it again and Trump is covering it up, we all have to be on the same page. That's number one.
Number two...no matter who the nominee is, a moderate billionaire with a sexist past from a sexist time, a former Obama VP, or a socialist senator from Vermont who is closer to the NRA than most would like.....one thing is clear---WE ALL HAVE TO UNITE BEHIND WHOMEVER IS THE NOMINEE.
Donald Trump is an existential risk to our democracy. Defeating him is more important than literally ANY OTHER ISSUE in this campaign. I really hope the candidates in the next debate focus on that instead of tearing each other down. That's number three (Biden voice).
You know I am an independent. My views are moderate mostly. But I can tell with 100% certainty that I will back Bernie or Elizabeth, or the reincarnation of Hillary as a result of a brokered convention. I also pledge to volunteer my time to help whomever it is. I hope you all will do the same.
Quit the bickering. Focus on the most important thing that unites all of us------defeating this fucking Russian stooge in November. Literally the future of the country is dependent upon this. Anything else you care about policy-wise should be a distant second.
Dems are screwed either way
Might as well vote for trump
All you do in here is (try to) dunk on the fairness and the good of Bernie Sanders."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Read bettermrussel1 said:
You achieve neither around here, that's for sure.ecdanc said:
I’ll focus on the latter when you redress the former.mrussel1 said:
So is making allies and influencing.ecdanc said:
Reading is hard.Ledbetterman10 said:
Agreed. How dare you use a word as nasty as “unlikeable.” Bigotry!ecdanc said:
Word choice matters, bruh.Ledbetterman10 said:
You're a homophobe. Per the standards you've set for yourself on this board, I can call you a homophobe for saying Pete is unlikeable because you called me sexist yesterday for saying Amy was unlikeable.ecdanc said:
Pete is unlikeable. Other people are also unlikeable. .The Juggler said:
What connection are they making? I don't understand your point either. Seems like mostly a Pete and Amy thing...Spiritual_Chaos said:
I don't think they are making that specific connection...mrussel1 said:
Why would an adult dislike someone based on similarity to a character from a sitcom?Spiritual_Chaos said:
I dont think anyone in the race likes Pete. Honestly. Hes like that dude from The Big Bang Theory.mrussel1 said:
There's a weird vibe between Pete and Amy. She does not like him and takes what he says very personally, it appears.cincybearcat said:
Yeah and after finishing the debate last night...might need to move Warren up to the #1 and slide Pete down 1 spot. While I didn't always like what she said or what she was doing, Warren dominated the narrative of the night. Pete was solid, but got a little petty with Amy I thought...though Amy's responses to him did highlight potential risk with her....she may have finished below Bloomberg even. Joe/Bernie was basically a wash and could be flipped. I put Joe ahead because he benefited on stage the most by Bloomberg being attacked. Well, bernie benefited in that people didnt attack him as much as well.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You ranking @cincybearcatSpiritual_Chaos said:DEBATE RANKING
1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly.
3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
1) Pete
2) Warren
3) Joe
4) Bernie
5) Amy
6) Bloomberg
Not that different.
i think the rest have respect for eachother. But they don’t like Pete.0 -
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So where did you get that cute rightwing "fuck anyone but me" shit from?mcgruff10 said:
The same place that makes you think voting Trump over Bernie Sanders is something a decent human being would*?
* Trump being a sexist, accused by multiple women of rape, racist, responsible for dead children on your border, corrupt, risking the death of ukrainian people for personal gain, denies climate change and does nothing to battle it etc etc etc etc etcPost edited by Spiritual_Chaos on"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Elizabeth Warren On Private Conversation With Mike Bloomberg During Debate
https://youtu.be/Uef5WqPTZzUBloomberg asked her where she was born
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In my reality it does, maybe not in your utopian vision for a nation not prepared for it.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Doesn't check out.Halifax2TheMax said:
Boy, do you have me figured out. And no, it was a berniebrosises that swiped right. When I insisted that they pay half for dinner, I never heard from them again.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Did some Bernie Bro swipe left on you on Tinder or something?Halifax2TheMax said:
Something which is totally lost on the Berniebrosises. The "free stuff" generation is going to be really disappointed.Lerxst1992 said:
And if bernie is the nominee many independents and moderate dems are not voting for himHalifax2TheMax said:
I'm totally on board with this and will support whomever the nominee is. Unfortunately, the Berniebrosises will not if Bernie isn't the man. And in Team Trump Treason fashion, they prefer the chaos of what another 4 years of Team Trump Treason does to uniting behind the dem nominee as it opens the door a little more for their vision of utopia, even if they have to wait 4 more years for another chance and suffer irreparable harm in the meantime. What a bitter old man Bernie will be in his final days.The Juggler said:Folks,
Here's the thing...after yesterday's unsurprising news that Russia is at it again and Trump is covering it up, we all have to be on the same page. That's number one.
Number two...no matter who the nominee is, a moderate billionaire with a sexist past from a sexist time, a former Obama VP, or a socialist senator from Vermont who is closer to the NRA than most would like.....one thing is clear---WE ALL HAVE TO UNITE BEHIND WHOMEVER IS THE NOMINEE.
Donald Trump is an existential risk to our democracy. Defeating him is more important than literally ANY OTHER ISSUE in this campaign. I really hope the candidates in the next debate focus on that instead of tearing each other down. That's number three (Biden voice).
You know I am an independent. My views are moderate mostly. But I can tell with 100% certainty that I will back Bernie or Elizabeth, or the reincarnation of Hillary as a result of a brokered convention. I also pledge to volunteer my time to help whomever it is. I hope you all will do the same.
Quit the bickering. Focus on the most important thing that unites all of us------defeating this fucking Russian stooge in November. Literally the future of the country is dependent upon this. Anything else you care about policy-wise should be a distant second.
Dems are screwed either way
Might as well vote for trump
All you do in here is (try to) dunk on the fairness and the good of Bernie Sanders.
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Lawrence gave her multiple chances to say something nice about the guy and she refused each time. Clearly, they had a nice conversation for a few minutes during the commercial break there....oh wellSpiritual_Chaos said:Elizabeth Warren On Private Conversation With Mike Bloomberg During Debate
https://youtu.be/Uef5WqPTZzUBloomberg asked her where she was born
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So Juggler, what are you thoughts on this? These polls either disprove your point that Trump's approval rating is particularly low for an incumbent, or they further strengthen my belief that polls suck.Ledbetterman10 said:
Hmm I didn't see that (the bolded part). Yeah that would be beyond foolish.The Juggler said:
Yes. They've already said as much. Bloomberg even said he will continue his spending machine on whoever the nominee is. THAT is the kind of unity the democrats need right now. Not what we saw a few days ago. That's the point.Ledbetterman10 said:
I'm not suggesting I'm going out on a limb, dude. I know I'm saying what anyone else that understands this process already knows. But your "we gotta come together, too much is at stake" stance is easier said than done. If by some chance Sanders gets the nomination, will Bloomberg and Biden be behind him? Warren likely will, but I'm not sure about them. And if he doesn't win the nomination, and it's perceived by his supporters that he was screwed, they're not going to come out and vote for Bloomberg or whoever.The Juggler said:
You're not exactly going out on a limb predicting treacherous waters if there is a brokered convention, dude. Of course that will dramatically weaken whoever is the nominee.Ledbetterman10 said:
That's true. I just think, in this scenario where Sanders has a plurality but not the majority, granting him the nomination likely will bode well for Trump's re-election, but to deny him the nomination will have ramifications that go well beyond the Trump presidency....The Juggler said:
I've said this many times, democrats love finding ways to lose elections they should win.Ledbetterman10 said:
That all sounds well and good, Juggler. But if Sanders goes into the convention with the most delegates, but not the 1,991 he needs to secure the nomination, and the superdelegates give the nomination to someone else, forget about beating Trump, I think it could be an electoral death-sentence for the Democrats. Let's say, hypothetically, that Sanders gets 33% of the total votes in the primary and that's the plurality, but he doesn't receive the nomination. Well that's 33% of registered democrats that might tell the party to fuck off forever.The Juggler said:Folks,
Here's the thing...after yesterday's unsurprising news that Russia is at it again and Trump is covering it up, we all have to be on the same page. That's number one.
Number two...no matter who the nominee is, a moderate billionaire with a sexist past from a sexist time, a former Obama VP, or a socialist senator from Vermont who is closer to the NRA than most would like.....one thing is clear---WE ALL HAVE TO UNITE BEHIND WHOMEVER IS THE NOMINEE.
Donald Trump is an existential risk to our democracy. Defeating him is more important than literally ANY OTHER ISSUE in this campaign. I really hope the candidates in the next debate focus on that instead of tearing each other down. That's number three (Biden voice).
You know I am an independent. My views are moderate mostly. But I can tell with 100% certainty that I will back Bernie or Elizabeth, or the reincarnation of Hillary as a result of a brokered convention. I also pledge to volunteer my time to help whomever it is. I hope you all will do the same.
Quit the bickering. Focus on the most important thing that unites all of us------defeating this fucking Russian stooge in November. Literally the future of the country is dependent upon this. Anything else you care about policy-wise should be a distant second.
Doesn't mean we can't do whatever we can to help whoever the nominee is
I personally think Trump will beat whoever the nominee is. So for the sake of their democratic party's future, the DNC better not fuck with their voters and say "Sure you like Bernie Sanders, but we're smarter than you and we know he can't beat Trump, so here's Bloomberg." That would blow up in their faces two-fold. First off, they'll piss off a large portion of their party, and secondly, in my opinion, Bloomberg will lose anyway.
My point is a simple one--no matter who it is/no matter how it plays out, support him/her and stop driving wedges before it's too late. The democrats have, once again, offered up a less than ideal field of candidates. Trump should be easy to beat but they are stepping all over themselves yet again. We gotta come together. Too much is at stake.
Also, half the country loves Trump, and they've already banded together. In fact, their bond (or whatever you wanna call it) has become stronger over the past four years. They're all in unison to see the democrats destroyed. You want (as I do, but I'm skeptical that it happens) the other half of the country to come together over the course of June through November. Not impossible, but as I said, easier said than done.
One of Sanders' campaign managers or top surrogates came out earlier this week and said they would not accept his money. THAT is exactly what we do not need.
Again--I don't think you are saying anything new. The incumbent always has an advantage. This one, in particular, should be easier to beat than the democrats are making it out to be. Despite the stuff you say in your second paragraph, it is still true that he has a lower approval rating than just about any incumbent in the history of polling running for re-election. And before you say something about polls, just about every incumbent in the history of polling has also gotten within a point or two of his approvals on election day. So he SHOULD be easy to beat. The democrats are shooting themselves in their collective foot. They need to stop. And fast.
And as for polls, yeah as I've said before, I don't put much stock in them, but I don't completely dismiss them either. I was curious to see what Bush's approval rating was in February 2004 compared to Trump's today. According to Gallup, Trump is at 49% (pretty good considering everything that's wrong with him and his presidency), Obama was at 45% in February 2012, and Bush was at 51% in February 2004. So unless this page I'm linking to is incorrect, Trump doesn't have the lowest approval rating of any incumbent running for re-election. It has Obama at 45% in Feb. 2012, and Bush Sr. at 41% in Feb 1992.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/203198/presidential-approval-ratings-donald-trump.aspx
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Agreed. Racism is insidious and far-reaching.F Me In The Brain said:The Juggler said:
Sorry....but I just can't get over the ignorance of this statement. "Insufferable whiteness." What the fuck is wrong with some people?ecdanc said:
His politics mainly, but also his insufferable whiteness.mcgruff10 said:
I like Pete a lot, why don't you like the man?ecdanc said:
Pete is unlikeable. Other people are also unlikeable. .The Juggler said:
What connection are they making? I don't understand your point either. Seems like mostly a Pete and Amy thing...Spiritual_Chaos said:
I don't think they are making that specific connection...mrussel1 said:
Why would an adult dislike someone based on similarity to a character from a sitcom?Spiritual_Chaos said:
I dont think anyone in the race likes Pete. Honestly. Hes like that dude from The Big Bang Theory.mrussel1 said:
There's a weird vibe between Pete and Amy. She does not like him and takes what he says very personally, it appears.cincybearcat said:
Yeah and after finishing the debate last night...might need to move Warren up to the #1 and slide Pete down 1 spot. While I didn't always like what she said or what she was doing, Warren dominated the narrative of the night. Pete was solid, but got a little petty with Amy I thought...though Amy's responses to him did highlight potential risk with her....she may have finished below Bloomberg even. Joe/Bernie was basically a wash and could be flipped. I put Joe ahead because he benefited on stage the most by Bloomberg being attacked. Well, bernie benefited in that people didnt attack him as much as well.Spiritual_Chaos said:
You ranking @cincybearcatSpiritual_Chaos said:DEBATE RANKING
1. Warren (fighting to survive. Killed Bloomberg all by herself)
2. Sanders (Energized and refuted attacks ("if not capitalist it must be communism" "Your healthcare plan is expensive" effecticly.
3. Pete (Best at showing an alternative to Sanders)
4. Biden (Not bad per se but disappeared a lot)
5. Amy (think's her "punchlines" are smarter and more fun then they are)
6. Bloomberg (a Trump test dummie)
1) Pete
2) Warren
3) Joe
4) Bernie
5) Amy
6) Bloomberg
Not that different.
i think the rest have respect for eachother. But they don’t like Pete.Quite a bit.0 -
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Hah. I first wrote "in before ecdanc recommends Marx" but removed it.ecdanc said:
"The communist manifesto" was actually the correct answer to a question in the most popular swedish "game show" just a few minutes ago."Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
Ha!Spiritual_Chaos said:
Hah. I first wrote "in before ecdanc recommends Marx" but removed it.ecdanc said:
"The communist manifesto" was actually the correct answer to a question in the most popular swedish "game show" just a few minutes ago.0 -
Best post I've read in this thread all day.Halifax2TheMax said:
Boy, do you have me figured out. And no, it was a berniebrosises that swiped right. When I insisted that they pay half for dinner, I never heard from them again.Spiritual_Chaos said:
Did some Bernie Bro swipe left on you on Tinder or something?Halifax2TheMax said:
Something which is totally lost on the Berniebrosises. The "free stuff" generation is going to be really disappointed.Lerxst1992 said:
And if bernie is the nominee many independents and moderate dems are not voting for himHalifax2TheMax said:
I'm totally on board with this and will support whomever the nominee is. Unfortunately, the Berniebrosises will not if Bernie isn't the man. And in Team Trump Treason fashion, they prefer the chaos of what another 4 years of Team Trump Treason does to uniting behind the dem nominee as it opens the door a little more for their vision of utopia, even if they have to wait 4 more years for another chance and suffer irreparable harm in the meantime. What a bitter old man Bernie will be in his final days.The Juggler said:Folks,
Here's the thing...after yesterday's unsurprising news that Russia is at it again and Trump is covering it up, we all have to be on the same page. That's number one.
Number two...no matter who the nominee is, a moderate billionaire with a sexist past from a sexist time, a former Obama VP, or a socialist senator from Vermont who is closer to the NRA than most would like.....one thing is clear---WE ALL HAVE TO UNITE BEHIND WHOMEVER IS THE NOMINEE.
Donald Trump is an existential risk to our democracy. Defeating him is more important than literally ANY OTHER ISSUE in this campaign. I really hope the candidates in the next debate focus on that instead of tearing each other down. That's number three (Biden voice).
You know I am an independent. My views are moderate mostly. But I can tell with 100% certainty that I will back Bernie or Elizabeth, or the reincarnation of Hillary as a result of a brokered convention. I also pledge to volunteer my time to help whomever it is. I hope you all will do the same.
Quit the bickering. Focus on the most important thing that unites all of us------defeating this fucking Russian stooge in November. Literally the future of the country is dependent upon this. Anything else you care about policy-wise should be a distant second.
Dems are screwed either way
Might as well vote for trump
All you do in here is (try to) dunk on the fairness and the good of Bernie Sanders.0
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