The Democratic Presidential Debates
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There isn't one period of time where his unequivocal statement can't be defeated.mcgruff10 said:
I m going anytime pre 1964.mrussel1 said:
So I love an unreasonable argument. Over what period of time is this statement?CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.0 -
100% agree.mrussel1 said:
There isn't one period of time where his unequivocal statement can't be defeated.mcgruff10 said:
I m going anytime pre 1964.mrussel1 said:
So I love an unreasonable argument. Over what period of time is this statement?CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
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mcgruff10 said:
Clinton over Reagan? I like bill a lot but I think Reagan wins. Regal definitely over carter.Halifax2TheMax said:
Clinton over Reagan/Bush and Bush/Quayle and Obama over Bush. Team Trump Treason won’t surpass Obama because like Reagan and Bush, exploded the deficit and ultimately will leave the Economy in shambles. But you know, libs get blamed for the economy the repubs ruined.mickeyrat said:
nah , pre Gingrich. thats when the turn in Congress began.mcgruff10 said:
I m going anytime pre 1964.mrussel1 said:
So I love an unreasonable argument. Over what period of time is this statement?CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
Eisenhower or jfk/lbj?
So selling dangerous military weapons to the Ayatollah of Iran moments after Reagan getting sworn into office is "Regal."
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Your honestly telling me with a straight face that carter was a better president than Reagan? My bad on the misspelling Captain Grammar Police. By the way I have to ask, why didn’t you use a question mark at the end of your sentence?Lerxst1992 said:mcgruff10 said:
Clinton over Reagan? I like bill a lot but I think Reagan wins. Regal definitely over carter.Halifax2TheMax said:
Clinton over Reagan/Bush and Bush/Quayle and Obama over Bush. Team Trump Treason won’t surpass Obama because like Reagan and Bush, exploded the deficit and ultimately will leave the Economy in shambles. But you know, libs get blamed for the economy the repubs ruined.mickeyrat said:
nah , pre Gingrich. thats when the turn in Congress began.mcgruff10 said:
I m going anytime pre 1964.mrussel1 said:
So I love an unreasonable argument. Over what period of time is this statement?CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
Eisenhower or jfk/lbj?
So selling dangerous military weapons to the Ayatollah of Iran moments after Reagan getting sworn into office is "Regal."
Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
mcgruff10 said:
Your honestly telling me with a straight face that carter was a better president than Reagan? My bad on the misspelling Captain Grammar Police. By the way I have to ask, why didn’t you use a question mark at the end of your sentence?Lerxst1992 said:mcgruff10 said:
Clinton over Reagan? I like bill a lot but I think Reagan wins. Regal definitely over carter.Halifax2TheMax said:
Clinton over Reagan/Bush and Bush/Quayle and Obama over Bush. Team Trump Treason won’t surpass Obama because like Reagan and Bush, exploded the deficit and ultimately will leave the Economy in shambles. But you know, libs get blamed for the economy the repubs ruined.mickeyrat said:
nah , pre Gingrich. thats when the turn in Congress began.mcgruff10 said:
I m going anytime pre 1964.mrussel1 said:
So I love an unreasonable argument. Over what period of time is this statement?CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
Eisenhower or jfk/lbj?
So selling dangerous military weapons to the Ayatollah of Iran moments after Reagan getting sworn into office is "Regal."
lol I had no idea the correct spelling.
I just find it funny that we have such a grand view of Reagan considering his smartest foreign policy departure from Carter was not to treat Iran as enemies but as beloved allies whom we trust with our state of the art killing machines.0 -
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
Post edited by mcgruff10 onI'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!0 -
Mcgruff is expressing the precise point that Maher made in New Rules. He's someone that leans right but is disgusted by Trump. Vote Blue is the rallying cry for Democrats to show unity, not a slogan to persuade center to center right people mCM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!0 -
Correct. And I forgot to add quotes on my first sentence and credit Maher. My bad on that. The left is becoming too left. In my state we are giving away more and more money for illegal immigrants to go to college. Yeah, What about my kids? How about pumping that money in the general fund? I am growing more and more tired of the Democrat party.mrussel1 said:
Mcgruff is expressing the precise point that Maher made in New Rules. He's someone that leans right but is disgusted by Trump. Vote Blue is the rallying cry for Democrats to show unity, not a slogan to persuade center to center right people mCM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
How does that horseshoe fit? Take a peek out the overton window lately?mcgruff10 said:
Correct. And I forgot to add quotes on my first sentence and credit Maher. My bad on that. The left is becoming too left. In my state we are giving away more and more money for illegal immigrants to go to college. Yeah, What about my kids? How about pumping that money in the general fund? I am growing more and more tired of the Democrat party.mrussel1 said:
Mcgruff is expressing the precise point that Maher made in New Rules. He's someone that leans right but is disgusted by Trump. Vote Blue is the rallying cry for Democrats to show unity, not a slogan to persuade center to center right people mCM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!
what about my kids?
Oh wait, I don't have any.
I still pay taxes for your kids education though.
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so anyone who votes third party is a dumb shit? would you consider Teddy Roosevelt a dumb shit? Ralph Nader? Ross Perot? So I"m supposed to compromise my own beliefs and vote just based on party? Sounds like you are the blind "dumb shit".CM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!
I feel like you are calling out millennials but you yourself are the definition of one. (not me, born 1977)
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mcgruff10 said:
Correct. And I forgot to add quotes on my first sentence and credit Maher. My bad on that. The left is becoming too left. In my state we are giving away more and more money for illegal immigrants to go to college. Yeah, What about my kids? How about pumping that money in the general fund? I am growing more and more tired of the Democrat party.mrussel1 said:
Mcgruff is expressing the precise point that Maher made in New Rules. He's someone that leans right but is disgusted by Trump. Vote Blue is the rallying cry for Democrats to show unity, not a slogan to persuade center to center right people mCM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!
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How does that quote apply to the discussion exactly? I’m very interested to know.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
Correct. And I forgot to add quotes on my first sentence and credit Maher. My bad on that. The left is becoming too left. In my state we are giving away more and more money for illegal immigrants to go to college. Yeah, What about my kids? How about pumping that money in the general fund? I am growing more and more tired of the Democrat party.mrussel1 said:
Mcgruff is expressing the precise point that Maher made in New Rules. He's someone that leans right but is disgusted by Trump. Vote Blue is the rallying cry for Democrats to show unity, not a slogan to persuade center to center right people mCM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!hippiemom = goodness0 -
I always find it adorable when someone has to use someone else words when debating but doesn't explain why they use it.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
Correct. And I forgot to add quotes on my first sentence and credit Maher. My bad on that. The left is becoming too left. In my state we are giving away more and more money for illegal immigrants to go to college. Yeah, What about my kids? How about pumping that money in the general fund? I am growing more and more tired of the Democrat party.mrussel1 said:
Mcgruff is expressing the precise point that Maher made in New Rules. He's someone that leans right but is disgusted by Trump. Vote Blue is the rallying cry for Democrats to show unity, not a slogan to persuade center to center right people mCM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
especially when it doesnt seem to apply.mcgruff10 said:
I always find it adorable when someone has to use someone else words when debating but doesn't explain why they use it.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
Correct. And I forgot to add quotes on my first sentence and credit Maher. My bad on that. The left is becoming too left. In my state we are giving away more and more money for illegal immigrants to go to college. Yeah, What about my kids? How about pumping that money in the general fund? I am growing more and more tired of the Democrat party.mrussel1 said:
Mcgruff is expressing the precise point that Maher made in New Rules. He's someone that leans right but is disgusted by Trump. Vote Blue is the rallying cry for Democrats to show unity, not a slogan to persuade center to center right people mCM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!
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Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
mcgruff10 said:
so anyone who votes third party is a dumb shit? would you consider Teddy Roosevelt a dumb shit? Ralph Nader? Ross Perot? So I"m supposed to compromise my own beliefs and vote just based on party? Sounds like you are the blind "dumb shit".CM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!
I feel like you are calling out millennials but you yourself are the definition of one. (not me, born 1977)
so anyone who votes third party is a dumb shit?
Yes
would you consider Teddy Roosevelt a dumb shit?
pretty sure Teddy was a Republican, and we had a two party system then too
Ralph Nader? Ross Perot?
Yes - both dumb shits. See also : Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.
So I"m supposed to compromise my own beliefs and vote just based on party?
No, apparently you just need a better set of beliefs.
But if you were to vote based on party, I thinks it's an obvious choice. Do you want to associate yourself with criminals, pedophiles, racists and warmongers? Or with the party that wants to figure out how to provide healthcare and education. You would think it's a no-brainer, but here we are...
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voted in every election since 88.not one of the candidates EVER courted my vote. That of registered independent. Not one. ALWAYS play to the base.Independents represent approx 45% of the electorate. WE have the power._____________________________________SIGNATURE________________________________________________
Not today Sir, Probably not tomorrow.............................................. bayfront arena st. pete '94
you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '140 -
I love the uneducated. You would do well in politics based on how open you are to other peoples ideas. I hope you run one day.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
so anyone who votes third party is a dumb shit? would you consider Teddy Roosevelt a dumb shit? Ralph Nader? Ross Perot? So I"m supposed to compromise my own beliefs and vote just based on party? Sounds like you are the blind "dumb shit".CM189191 said:
Because dumb shits throw a fit when their perfect candidate isn't nominated, and vote third party or sit out. There is no perfect candidate for everyone. Individuals voters have to compromise their own beliefs for what is good for all of society.mcgruff10 said:
What's the point of calling yourself a liberal if you don't allow anyone else to have a different view? People should absolute analyze each candidate and decide which one most closely aligns with their own beliefs. This is especially true in the primaries.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
I m not gonna vote for someone on the far left. Biden Or Pete I will vote for. Sander or warren? Hell no.Halifax2TheMax said:
Well, if you want to re-elect Team Trump Treason, vote third party.mcgruff10 said:
It is this sense of elitism that gives the dems a bad name and gives more and more ammo to trump.HughFreakingDillon said:
so you post the definition of false dilemma, the fallacy of there being only two options, as your argument to mcgruff that there are only two options? interesting debate tactic.CM189191 said:mcgruff10 said:
So if people don't like either candidate then they should stay home and not vote?CM189191 said:
It's not holier than thou, or making assumptions.mcgruff10 said:
Lol. I always love the holier than thou attitude and ignorant assumptions by some people. Thanks for telling me how to vote.CM189191 said:
jfc not this shit againmcgruff10 said:
Correct. I might honestly vote third party if warren or sanders is the candidate. (Not that it matters in nj)mrussel1 said:
Fair enough, but hte 'terror' is from Warren and Sanders trying to outflank each other on the left on all of their policies, not just a wealth tax thing. Their escalating price tags is a problem.HughFreakingDillon said:I was responding to the "and moderates are terrified" article that was posted.
We are a two party system
Voting third party reflects a complete ignorance of how our government is set up
It's not edgy or cool or a protest. It's flat out ignorant.
Grass is green, sky is blue, USA has a two party political system. It's really not up for debate.
Voting third party is like buying a vowel on Jeopardy. You don't even deserve a participation ribbon.
False dilemma :
A fallacy of oversimplification that offers a limited number of options (usually two) when in reality more options are available. Also known as the either-or fallacy, the fallacy of the excluded middle, and the black and white fallacy.
If people don't like either candidate, they should get the fence post out of their ass and realize one candidate is clearly a better option than the other.
That candidate is nearly always a Democrat. By any and every metric, the Democratic party has outperformed the GOP.
Prove me wrong. Or sit down and shut up.
shouting at people and insulting their intelligence isn't the way to get them to vote democrat.
That is why the GOP playbook is fear, uncertainty, and doubt. It plays on the emotions of the individual, rather than promoting actual societal solutions.
The question is not which candidate is best for me, it's which candidate is best for the country. Vote blue no matter who!
I feel like you are calling out millennials but you yourself are the definition of one. (not me, born 1977)
so anyone who votes third party is a dumb shit?
Yes
would you consider Teddy Roosevelt a dumb shit?
pretty sure Teddy was a Republican, and we had a two party system then too
Ralph Nader? Ross Perot?
Yes - both dumb shits. See also : Gary Johnson and Jill Stein.
So I"m supposed to compromise my own beliefs and vote just based on party?
No, apparently you just need a better set of beliefs.
But if you were to vote based on party, I thinks it's an obvious choice. Do you want to associate yourself with criminals, pedophiles, racists and warmongers? Or with the party that wants to figure out how to provide healthcare and education. You would think it's a no-brainer, but here we are...
Teddy Roosevelt is nominated for the presidency by the Progressive Party, a group of Republicans dissatisfied with the renomination of President Taft. Also known as the Bull Moose Party, the Progressive platform called for the direct election of U.S. senators, woman suffrage, reduction of the tariff, and many social reforms. Roosevelt, who served as the 26th president of the United States from 1901 to 1909, embarked on a vigorous campaign as the party’s presidential candidate. A key point of his platform was the “Square Deal”–Roosevelt’s concept of a society based on fair business competition and increased welfare for needy Americans.I'll ride the wave where it takes me......0 -
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