The Democratic Presidential Debates

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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    edited February 2020
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    ecdanc said:
    Queers against Pete:

    https://www.queersagainstpete.com/letter?fbclid=IwAR2kFvqaVNeR-PTgxy9dLZpWThsubujr5IwDPW0JwCm0R5Cs6GJod0WzdD4
    I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?

    Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
    Yes, all four members are very serious about their antiPete letter.

    The whole letter is frankly comical.  It is a regurgitation of Bernies broader promises, while declaring that each of these issues disproportionately affect this community.  I doubt that it’s Putin, it’s a negative ad by team Bernie.
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    Queers against Pete:

    https://www.queersagainstpete.com/letter?fbclid=IwAR2kFvqaVNeR-PTgxy9dLZpWThsubujr5IwDPW0JwCm0R5Cs6GJod0WzdD4
    I m no bloodhound but I smell bs. 
    What does that even mean?
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    ecdanc said:
    Queers against Pete:

    https://www.queersagainstpete.com/letter?fbclid=IwAR2kFvqaVNeR-PTgxy9dLZpWThsubujr5IwDPW0JwCm0R5Cs6GJod0WzdD4
    I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?

    Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
    Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    Queers against Pete:

    https://www.queersagainstpete.com/letter?fbclid=IwAR2kFvqaVNeR-PTgxy9dLZpWThsubujr5IwDPW0JwCm0R5Cs6GJod0WzdD4
    I m no bloodhound but I smell bs. 
    What does that even mean?
    That it’s not some grassroots level concern.  I agree.  This is coming from Sanders directly or from his supporters.
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    Queers against Pete:

    https://www.queersagainstpete.com/letter?fbclid=IwAR2kFvqaVNeR-PTgxy9dLZpWThsubujr5IwDPW0JwCm0R5Cs6GJod0WzdD4
    I m no bloodhound but I smell bs. 
    What does that even mean?
    That I think that web site is nothing but bull shit.  It is literally Bernie’s policies.  

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So Indianapolis isn’t apart of the “Chicago” area in terms of voting.  Is most of Indiana rural?  I ve only traveled the northern part. 
    What do you mean? Chicago and Indy are three hours apart.  Are you thinking of Gary?
    sorry.  I meant to ask if indy votes blue like the greater chicago area.  
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Indiana

    This should quickly explain what you're looking for. 

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  • Halifax2TheMax
    Halifax2TheMax Posts: 42,197
    ecdanc said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    ecdanc said:
    Queers against Pete:

    https://www.queersagainstpete.com/letter?fbclid=IwAR2kFvqaVNeR-PTgxy9dLZpWThsubujr5IwDPW0JwCm0R5Cs6GJod0WzdD4
    I’d have more faith in them if there had been a QueersAgainstTrump organization and mobilization drive. Seems more like a Putin on the ritz troll farm operation than a legit politic organization. They registered as a 501c3?

    Did you hear all of Team Trump Treason’s comments about all the hot body, good looking dudes who supported him throughout impeachment? I mean it really bordered on getting sexual, breathless as he was in his descriptions. Maybe he should just come out? NTTIAWWT. He’d still be POTUS and first is better than third. And some think Biden is creepy?
    Wait, would you trust them more or less if they were 501c3?
    More.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    darwinstheory said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So Indianapolis isn’t apart of the “Chicago” area in terms of voting.  Is most of Indiana rural?  I ve only traveled the northern part. 
    What do you mean? Chicago and Indy are three hours apart.  Are you thinking of Gary?
    sorry.  I meant to ask if indy votes blue like the greater chicago area.  
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2016_United_States_presidential_election_in_Indiana

    This should quickly explain what you're looking for. 

    So Indiana is pretty damn rural lol. Wow. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,363
    Lol...granted, I'm sure having a running mate from Indiana helped to skew it some. But overall, it seems to be fairly consistent with what I've seen over the years.
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    edited February 2020
    Referring to queers against Pete:
    Mayor Pete doesn’t have an alternative for police.   People want to get rid of the police?! What the heck?
    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • cincybearcat
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    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    Queers against Pete:

    https://www.queersagainstpete.com/letter?fbclid=IwAR2kFvqaVNeR-PTgxy9dLZpWThsubujr5IwDPW0JwCm0R5Cs6GJod0WzdD4
    I m no bloodhound but I smell bs. 
    What does that even mean?
    That it’s not some grassroots level concern.  I agree.  This is coming from Sanders directly or from his supporters.
    Wouldn’t Surprise me. Sanders fans are the 2nd worst political group in the USA currently.
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,881
    mcgruff10 said:
    Referring to queers against Pete:
    Mayor Pete doesn’t have an alternative for police.   People want to get rid of the police?! What the heck?
    That’s a good policy stance if you actually want to try and lose 50 states..
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    edited February 2020
    mcgruff10 said:
    Referring to queers against Pete:
    Mayor Pete doesn’t have an alternative for police.   People want to get rid of the police?! What the heck?
    English is not my first language, But that is not what it says(?).
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
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  • Jason P
    Jason P Posts: 19,305
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So Indianapolis isn’t apart of the “Chicago” area in terms of voting.  Is most of Indiana rural?  I ve only traveled the northern part. 
    What do you mean? Chicago and Indy are three hours apart.  Are you thinking of Gary?
    sorry.  I meant to ask if indy votes blue like the greater chicago area.  
    The city of Indy would probably vote blue.  But the State would most likely vote red.  South Bend is considered to be in The Region.  The Region is in Chicago’s time zone because the economy is dictated by Chicago.   I don’t think getting the home state would be a lock but certainly a possibility.  The state did vote for Obama after all. 
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  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,116
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Referring to queers against Pete:
    Mayor Pete doesn’t have an alternative for police.   People want to get rid of the police?! What the heck?
    English is not my first language, But that is not what it says(?).

    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    mcgruff10 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    Referring to queers against Pete:
    Mayor Pete doesn’t have an alternative for police.   People want to get rid of the police?! What the heck?
    English is not my first language, But that is not what it says(?).

    English is not my first language, 

    But I read it as "Create an alternative to police (cash bail), or end cash bail" 

    But maybe then it would be "policing cash bail".

    But using police as police force without an "the" before sound wrong to me. but maybe that is how you say it.

    I also do not know what "breakerfall" is. So maybe that says it all.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • mickeyrat
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    Jason P said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    mrussel1 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So Indianapolis isn’t apart of the “Chicago” area in terms of voting.  Is most of Indiana rural?  I ve only traveled the northern part. 
    What do you mean? Chicago and Indy are three hours apart.  Are you thinking of Gary?
    sorry.  I meant to ask if indy votes blue like the greater chicago area.  
    The city of Indy would probably vote blue.  But the State would most likely vote red.  South Bend is considered to be in The Region.  The Region is in Chicago’s time zone because the economy is dictated by Chicago.   I don’t think getting the home state would be a lock but certainly a possibility.  The state did vote for Obama after all. 
    S Bend is eastern time zone.. Its also the main manufacturing area of RVs. What does Chicago have to do with that?
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  • ecdanc
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    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    Queers against Pete:

    https://www.queersagainstpete.com/letter?fbclid=IwAR2kFvqaVNeR-PTgxy9dLZpWThsubujr5IwDPW0JwCm0R5Cs6GJod0WzdD4
    I m no bloodhound but I smell bs. 
    What does that even mean?
    That I think that web site is nothing but bull shit.  It is literally Bernie’s policies.  

    Ah, I get what you're saying: you think the positions themselves are bullshit; I thought you were saying the page wasn't real or something. 
  • Lerxst1992
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    ecdanc said:
    Lerxst1992 said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    Bernie Bro number 1:




    Bernie Bro number 2:






    Are those old videos? If you are going to post old videos it would be helpful to include the date. Pete’s comment is from 2017. I’m assuming Bloomberg is the same.

    Context is everything. Back in 2016/17 democrats significantly underestimated Trumps impact and loyalty among his base. And since then, trump has solidified his hold over conservatives and right leaning moderates. Back then, many thought  Never Trumpers would be a real thing in the gop. Now they only exist on TV, not IRL. Also since then, Sanders has been tagged a socialist which is a dirty word in the states. Back then, he did have a chance to sneak in, especially having Obama as a leftist president with the bully pulpit.

    Bloomberg is smart, and supports what would be by far the most progressive healthcare plan in the history of the US. Bloomberg has opened up full time campaign offices and hired full time staff that will stay open until November whether he wins the nomination or not. THAT is a smart team player. Meanwhile, Bernie lost half his IA voters from last time. If this was a Bernie revolution, why would he lose supporters, even if there are more candidates? 
    “Obama...a leftist.” That’s rich. 

    Would you rather "left of center president?"
  • ecdanc
    ecdanc Posts: 1,814
    mrussel1 said:
    ecdanc said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    ecdanc said:
    Queers against Pete:

    https://www.queersagainstpete.com/letter?fbclid=IwAR2kFvqaVNeR-PTgxy9dLZpWThsubujr5IwDPW0JwCm0R5Cs6GJod0WzdD4
    I m no bloodhound but I smell bs. 
    What does that even mean?
    That it’s not some grassroots level concern.  I agree.  This is coming from Sanders directly or from his supporters.
    Now THIS is some bullshit. You draw a false (convenient, for you) dichotomy between "grassroots" concerns and "Sanders....supporters." Do you people find it somehow surprising that queer leftists agree with the farthest left candidate? 
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