Sure. But seriously is it that big a deal to wait longer? Come on. They will make it right in the end. I love vinyl and want what I paid for but I’m just not that worried about a couple of 7” records. Jesus. Relax everyone.
It is not the fanbase that royally fucked up and is not taking responsibility for SEVERAL YEARS.
It is not the fanbase that lacks fundamental communication skills and only addressed this issue for SEVERAL YEARS with BS "eh... it's sort of happening... see ya a few years down the line with another 'eh... it's sort of happening'". Oh wait , we also got a "we have never promised when these bought goods were to be delivered, we can deliver them in 2070 if we want to, so whatevz - now im gonna crawl under a rock again"
I don't understand why some on here do not understand that it's not about the actual value of it or that the crisis in Syria is a bigger problem.
It's just a couple of 7 inch singles. The idea of this treatment of the fanbase, the lack of taking responsibility and taking us for granted -- is still DISAPPOINTING BULLSHIT BEHAVIOUR.
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"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
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Or you could just be patient and not let something so small get you so upset.
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In reality for me the new album and tour (especially with how many seats they seemed to have gotten) will make me not think about these singles until summer at least...other than seeing this thread
To those that think we're bitching about $40: Send me the money and I'll never post in this thread again. Until that happens, I will continue to express my frustration with how the band and their fan club treat us. Do you know how many CDs I can get from BMG for that $40???
It's fascinating how appealing for calm makes the crazies go crazier. In a community this large I expect you will always have that kind of element taking things way too far and allowing themselves to feel personally offended by something as stupid as late delivery of a vinyl record or two. We will get our records eventually, I do not doubt that for a second.
Mean time complaints are welcome and temper tantrums are hysterically funny.
"We will get our records eventually, I do not doubt that for a second."
I agree, we will get our records, and when we do it will be a great surprise. I hope they won't announce the shipping but that they just show up on our doorstep one day. I think that would be great!
There's a trapdoor in the sun!
2000 Pinkpop Festival, Netherlands
2006 Arnhem, Netherlands
2006 Antwerp, Belgium
2007 Nijmegen, Netherlands
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2010 Bristow, VA
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2013 Buffalo, NY
2013 Baltimore, MD
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2016 Hampton, VA
It's fascinating how appealing for calm makes the crazies go crazier. In a community this large I expect you will always have that kind of element taking things way too far and allowing themselves to feel personally offended by something as stupid as late delivery of a vinyl record or two. We will get our records eventually, I do not doubt that for a second.
Mean time complaints are welcome and temper tantrums are hysterically funny.
The crazy ones are the ones being pissed on but telling themselves, and others in this thread, it's raining.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
And I actually do think the possibility is pretty good that if threads like this didn't exist and no one said anything, that we'd never see the singles. At the very least let that last one count for 2017 and let 2016 just be a gap year.
And I actually do think the possibility is pretty good that if threads like this didn't exist and no one said anything, that we'd never see the singles. At the very least let that last one count for 2017 and let 2016 just be a gap year.
It's fascinating how appealing for calm makes the crazies go crazier. In a community this large I expect you will always have that kind of element taking things way too far and allowing themselves to feel personally offended by something as stupid as late delivery of a vinyl record or two. We will get our records eventually, I do not doubt that for a second.
Mean time complaints are welcome and temper tantrums are hysterically funny.
The crazy ones are the ones being pissed on but telling themselves, and others in this thread, it's raining.
No one is doing that. Some people think its just not worth getting worked up about.
This isn't an apples to apples analogy here. If my $40 is sunk, then so be it, my life will go on, i'll just be bummed the band let me down. But if he needed me to buy out his membership and get his singles and Deep, then thats something else.
It's fascinating how appealing for calm makes the crazies go crazier. In a community this large I expect you will always have that kind of element taking things way too far and allowing themselves to feel personally offended by something as stupid as late delivery of a vinyl record or two. We will get our records eventually, I do not doubt that for a second.
Mean time complaints are welcome and temper tantrums are hysterically funny.
The crazy ones are the ones being pissed on but telling themselves, and others in this thread, it's raining.
No one is doing that. Some people think its just not worth getting worked up about.
I have just never seen the point in complaining about legitimate complaints. If I see a thread that someone is bitching about something, and it doesn't affect me in any way, I don't act like all superior and come around and mock those complaining. I move on and leave them to their thing.
Am I annoyed at the single thing? Yes, not on a financial level, just disappointed in the band for seemingly not giving a shit. Does it keep me up at night? Am I frothing at the mouth every single day, raging in the mirror, shaking my fist in the air, cursing Ed's name? It would seem some of you think that's what we do. But no. That's not what is happening.
you ever tell someone who is upset about something to relax? how does that work, like, 100% of the time? what is the point? I'm convinced that most of the escalation in this thread isn't due to the singles themselves, but as a direct result of the "just relax" crowd.
It's fascinating how appealing for calm makes the crazies go crazier. In a community this large I expect you will always have that kind of element taking things way too far and allowing themselves to feel personally offended by something as stupid as late delivery of a vinyl record or two. We will get our records eventually, I do not doubt that for a second.
Mean time complaints are welcome and temper tantrums are hysterically funny.
The crazy ones are the ones being pissed on but telling themselves, and others in this thread, it's raining.
No one is doing that. Some people think its just not worth getting worked up about.
And those people don't need to get worked up about it. Live and let live.
It's fascinating how appealing for calm makes the crazies go crazier. In a community this large I expect you will always have that kind of element taking things way too far and allowing themselves to feel personally offended by something as stupid as late delivery of a vinyl record or two. We will get our records eventually, I do not doubt that for a second.
Mean time complaints are welcome and temper tantrums are hysterically funny.
The crazy ones are the ones being pissed on but telling themselves, and others in this thread, it's raining.
No one is doing that. Some people think its just not worth getting worked up about.
I have just never seen the point in complaining about legitimate complaints. If I see a thread that someone is bitching about something, and it doesn't affect me in any way, I don't act like all superior and come around and mock those complaining. I move on and leave them to their thing.
Am I annoyed at the single thing? Yes, not on a financial level, just disappointed in the band for seemingly not giving a shit. Does it keep me up at night? Am I frothing at the mouth every single day, raging in the mirror, shaking my fist in the air, cursing Ed's name? It would seem some of you think that's what we do. But no. That's not what is happening.
you ever tell someone who is upset about something to relax? how does that work, like, 100% of the time? what is the point? I'm convinced that most of the escalation in this thread isn't due to the singles themselves, but as a direct result of the "just relax" crowd.
I guess I'm just not hearing anything new in this discourse. Hey everyone is mad or disappointed. 10c knows this. Management knows this. Adding another post here is pretty much pointless, because clearly saying it again or adding more to the numbers isn't getting them done any faster. And no one is gonna quit being a fan of the band over the late fan club swag.
Its just pointless. But sure, go off king if you think more people complaining are making a difference.
And maybe that is the solution to just not open the thread anymore.
It's fascinating how appealing for calm makes the crazies go crazier. In a community this large I expect you will always have that kind of element taking things way too far and allowing themselves to feel personally offended by something as stupid as late delivery of a vinyl record or two. We will get our records eventually, I do not doubt that for a second.
Mean time complaints are welcome and temper tantrums are hysterically funny.
The crazy ones are the ones being pissed on but telling themselves, and others in this thread, it's raining.
No one is doing that. Some people think its just not worth getting worked up about.
I have just never seen the point in complaining about legitimate complaints. If I see a thread that someone is bitching about something, and it doesn't affect me in any way, I don't act like all superior and come around and mock those complaining. I move on and leave them to their thing.
Am I annoyed at the single thing? Yes, not on a financial level, just disappointed in the band for seemingly not giving a shit. Does it keep me up at night? Am I frothing at the mouth every single day, raging in the mirror, shaking my fist in the air, cursing Ed's name? It would seem some of you think that's what we do. But no. That's not what is happening.
you ever tell someone who is upset about something to relax? how does that work, like, 100% of the time? what is the point? I'm convinced that most of the escalation in this thread isn't due to the singles themselves, but as a direct result of the "just relax" crowd.
I guess I'm just not hearing anything new in this discourse. Hey everyone is mad or disappointed. 10c knows this. Management knows this. Adding another post here is pretty much pointless, because clearly saying it again or adding more to the numbers isn't getting them done any faster. And no one is gonna quit being a fan of the band over the late fan club swag.
Its just pointless. But sure, go off king if you think more people complaining are making a difference.
And maybe that is the solution to just not open the thread anymore.
and that is your opinion, and you are more than welcome to have that. but if you think posting about it is pointless, wouldn't that render a response to that post also pointless? do you see what i'm getting at here?
and also, you don't know at all that it's actually pointless. it could very well be that this thread is part of the reason they finally addressed it. this thread goes away, they think it's all good.
people complained endlessly about 10C being only sold in pairs. they FINALLY changed it. would that have changed without any complaints or suggestions to change it over the years? highly unlikely.
new album "Cigarettes" out Fall 2024!
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I remember the time I ordered large fries at McDonalds and I didn’t notice until I drove away that I only received a small French fries. It was pretty frustrating.
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It's fascinating how appealing for calm makes the crazies go crazier. In a community this large I expect you will always have that kind of element taking things way too far and allowing themselves to feel personally offended by something as stupid as late delivery of a vinyl record or two. We will get our records eventually, I do not doubt that for a second.
Mean time complaints are welcome and temper tantrums are hysterically funny.
The crazy ones are the ones being pissed on but telling themselves, and others in this thread, it's raining.
No one is doing that. Some people think its just not worth getting worked up about.
I have just never seen the point in complaining about legitimate complaints. If I see a thread that someone is bitching about something, and it doesn't affect me in any way, I don't act like all superior and come around and mock those complaining. I move on and leave them to their thing.
Am I annoyed at the single thing? Yes, not on a financial level, just disappointed in the band for seemingly not giving a shit. Does it keep me up at night? Am I frothing at the mouth every single day, raging in the mirror, shaking my fist in the air, cursing Ed's name? It would seem some of you think that's what we do. But no. That's not what is happening.
you ever tell someone who is upset about something to relax? how does that work, like, 100% of the time? what is the point? I'm convinced that most of the escalation in this thread isn't due to the singles themselves, but as a direct result of the "just relax" crowd.
I guess I'm just not hearing anything new in this discourse. Hey everyone is mad or disappointed. 10c knows this. Management knows this. Adding another post here is pretty much pointless, because clearly saying it again or adding more to the numbers isn't getting them done any faster. And no one is gonna quit being a fan of the band over the late fan club swag.
Its just pointless. But sure, go off king if you think more people complaining are making a difference.
And maybe that is the solution to just not open the thread anymore.
people complained endlessly about 10C being only sold in pairs. they FINALLY changed it. would that have changed without any complaints or suggestions to change it over the years? highly unlikely.
I rank this achievement only behind the Montgomery Bus Boycott when I think of the top moments in the history of social activism.
and you know what? out of all the comments and threads about it, I didn't comment once. You know why? because people can raise whatever issues they have as much as they want, and if it doesn't affect me, I read or not and move on.
because getting in my tower and shouting at people for raising an issue that bothers them is pointless and fairly arrogant.
new album "Cigarettes" out Fall 2024!
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Thanks a ton. Now I’m craving Arby’s. Not kidding.
Horsey sauce
I would call a lawyer if they forgot the horsey sauce tho.
There are a lot of other sauces easily accessible to you that you might enjoy in the meantime. Even the rarest of sauces is available to you online. Or, it's always possible to get a horse and make your own - you might enjoy that even more.
I went to Popeye's for the first time the other day. A big-ass chicken sandwich combo meal for under $6. I didn't even finish it, it was so big. Your move, 10c.
I think its important to keep this thread going. Repeat comments in my opinion are welcome just to keep it on the front page. Anyone who thinks they wouldnt forget to issue these just remember they forgot we were due 2016 and gave us 2017. Multiple people would have signed off on the artwork for that single.
And I actually do think the possibility is pretty good that if threads like this didn't exist and no one said anything, that we'd never see the singles. At the very least let that last one count for 2017 and let 2016 just be a gap year.
Absolutely right. Threads like this have purpose and value. The reality is that the missing singles aren't a big deal in the grand scheme of things. The other reality is that this band has demonstrated an utter lack of care and concern when it comes to their fan base. They give no shits about their obligations to us. We're asking them to fulfill those obligations and give 2 shits in the form of the missing singles. That's it. Nobody needs to be suing anyone. And nobody needs to defend the indefensible. The "sycophants" are no better than the "complainers" in this thread.
"I'll use the magic word - let's just shut the fuck up, please." EV, 04/13/08
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It is not the fanbase that royally fucked up and is not taking responsibility for SEVERAL YEARS.
It is not the fanbase that lacks fundamental communication skills and only addressed this issue for SEVERAL YEARS with BS "eh... it's sort of happening... see ya a few years down the line with another 'eh... it's sort of happening'". Oh wait , we also got a "we have never promised when these bought goods were to be delivered, we can deliver them in 2070 if we want to, so whatevz - now im gonna crawl under a rock again"
I don't understand why some on here do not understand that it's not about the actual value of it or that the crisis in Syria is a bigger problem.
It's just a couple of 7 inch singles. The idea of this treatment of the fanbase, the lack of taking responsibility and taking us for granted -- is still DISAPPOINTING BULLSHIT BEHAVIOUR.
I thought $40/yr was no big deal?
In reality for me the new album and tour (especially with how many seats they seemed to have gotten) will make me not think about these singles until summer at least...other than seeing this thread
Mean time complaints are welcome and temper tantrums are hysterically funny.
2000 Pinkpop Festival, Netherlands
2006 Arnhem, Netherlands
2006 Antwerp, Belgium
2007 Nijmegen, Netherlands
2009 Philadelphia 4, PA
2010 Bristow, VA
2012 Amsterdam 1, Netherlands
2013 Buffalo, NY
2013 Baltimore, MD
2015 Global Citizen Festival New York, NY
2016 Hampton, VA
www.headstonesband.com
No one is doing that. Some people think its just not worth getting worked up about.
Am I annoyed at the single thing? Yes, not on a financial level, just disappointed in the band for seemingly not giving a shit. Does it keep me up at night? Am I frothing at the mouth every single day, raging in the mirror, shaking my fist in the air, cursing Ed's name? It would seem some of you think that's what we do. But no. That's not what is happening.
you ever tell someone who is upset about something to relax? how does that work, like, 100% of the time? what is the point? I'm convinced that most of the escalation in this thread isn't due to the singles themselves, but as a direct result of the "just relax" crowd.
www.headstonesband.com
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Its just pointless. But sure, go off king if you think more people complaining are making a difference.
And maybe that is the solution to just not open the thread anymore.
and also, you don't know at all that it's actually pointless. it could very well be that this thread is part of the reason they finally addressed it. this thread goes away, they think it's all good.
people complained endlessly about 10C being only sold in pairs. they FINALLY changed it. would that have changed without any complaints or suggestions to change it over the years? highly unlikely.
www.headstonesband.com
because getting in my tower and shouting at people for raising an issue that bothers them is pointless and fairly arrogant.
www.headstonesband.com