The Inexcusable Travesty of Mt. Everest

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  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    PJ_Soul said:
    I don't even like hiking, let alone climbing. A nice walk is pleasant. :lol: And I like to paddle places if the opportunity presents itself. I have done many very challenging hikes in my day, despite never enjoying it... Now I avoid it altogether, because I finally learned my lesson, lol.
    Meanwhile, my dad was a very accomplished mountaineer in his day. He climbed both the Eiger and the Matterhorn, among many others. He actually got trapped in a terrible blizzard on the face of the Matterhorn, and had to just huddle on a little ledge for 3 days. He did get frost bite on his face, which turned his entire eyebrow white for life, and he actually thought he was going to die up there while trapped, but after the storm ended, he kept climbing and reached the peak. Pretty amazing. Of course Mount Everest is far, far higher. My dad never had to worry about not being about to breathe.
    Wow- Eiger and Matterhorn!   Exceptional!  Great story!

    You might really enjoy Jon Krakauer's book Eiger Dreams.  I thought it was at least as good of Into Thin Air or Into the Wild.  You can go their in your mind and not have to hike, lol!

    I was almost paralyzed from the waste down hitting a rock in a rapids on a river.  The doc told me I missed being paralyzed by by a few centimeters.  Another time, on another river, my canoe dumped me and my foot got caught in a sieve in rapid water.  I made one last desperate pull and managed to escape.  That's the last time I got on the water.  So you do the paddling, I'll do the hiking, haha!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Renfield
    Renfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    @brianluxHi Brian! Pre climb check-in, crampons on, ready to climb... I tried finding either book in local independent bookstores to no avail, so I finally went to The Strand. Easy decision, Annapurna was not in stock.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Renfield said:
    @brianluxHi Brian! Pre climb check-in, crampons on, ready to climb... I tried finding either book in local independent bookstores to no avail, so I finally went to The Strand. Easy decision, Annapurna was not in stock.
    Good choice!  Viesturs' stories are fascinating.  Would love to hear what you think once you've read it!
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518
    John Oliver had this as his main topic this week.
    #FHP
  • Renfield
    Renfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    edited June 2019
    Horos said:
    John Oliver had this as his main topic this week.
    Thanks! Going to watch it now 

    https://slate.com/culture/2019/06/john-oliver-mount-everest-last-week-tonight.html
    p.s. love the faux photo shoot 

    https://thetopofmounteverest.com/#home
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  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    The climbing season is now over.  So let's hope Nepal develops better regulations and issues fewer permits...
    let's also hope that no child goes hungry tonite.  not going to happen.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    vaggar99 said:
    The climbing season is now over.  So let's hope Nepal develops better regulations and issues fewer permits...
    let's also hope that no child goes hungry tonite.  not going to happen.
    True, and the sherpas and porters in the more remote, less traveled areas even more so- way more so.  Steve Swenson talks a lot about that in this book and he's a great advocate for helping the poorest of the poor.  And considering the horrid politics that go on between India and Pakistan, that's a very difficult task. 


    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518

    #FHP
  • Renfield
    Renfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    Horos said:


    @Horos   We must have just missed each other🤣
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    Renfield said:
    Horos said:


    @Horos   We must have just missed each other🤣
    Awww, matching outfits.  How cute!
    :lol:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122

    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,122
    that was the time Speedy and I got drunk and accidently climbed Everest.
    "You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry."  - Lincoln

    "Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
  • Horos
    Horos Posts: 4,518

     =) 
    #FHP
  • Renfield
    Renfield NYC NY Posts: 1,054
    brianlux said:
    Renfield said:
    Horos said:


    @Horos   We must have just missed each other🤣
    Awww, matching outfits.  How cute!
    :lol:
    Ahahahaha:)
  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    that was the time Speedy and I got drunk and accidently climbed Everest.
    :rofl:

    Those photos are some of the best of this thread.
  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663

    Whoo hoo!  Partying at the top of the world!  :smiley:
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    vaggar99 said:
    The climbing season is now over.  So let's hope Nepal develops better regulations and issues fewer permits...
    let's also hope that no child goes hungry tonite.  not going to happen.
    maybe you should look up the definition of hope... ;):o
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • vaggar99
    vaggar99 San Diego USA Posts: 3,431
    vaggar99 said:
    The climbing season is now over.  So let's hope Nepal develops better regulations and issues fewer permits...
    let's also hope that no child goes hungry tonite.  not going to happen.
    maybe you should look up the definition of hope... ;):o

  • brianlux
    brianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 43,663
    vaggar99 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    The climbing season is now over.  So let's hope Nepal develops better regulations and issues fewer permits...
    let's also hope that no child goes hungry tonite.  not going to happen.
    maybe you should look up the definition of hope... ;):o

    "Hope is not the conviction that things will turn out well.  Hope the the conviction to do what makes sense no matter how things turn out."
    -Vaclav Havel
    "It's a sad and beautiful world"
    -Roberto Benigni

  • hedonist
    hedonist Posts: 24,524
    brianlux said:
    vaggar99 said:
    vaggar99 said:
    The climbing season is now over.  So let's hope Nepal develops better regulations and issues fewer permits...
    let's also hope that no child goes hungry tonite.  not going to happen.
    maybe you should look up the definition of hope... ;):o

    "Hope is not the conviction that things will turn out well.  Hope the the conviction to do what makes sense no matter how things turn out."
    -Vaclav Havel
    Then why do we say "I hope you feel better", etc.?  It can be something which we do on someone's behalf.  I guess I do, anyway - it's something to aim for.



    I hope I've articulated this well.  Ha.